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Related: About this forumRachel Maddow outlines J.D. Vance's radical extremism on Ukraine, abortion rights - Republican National Convention MSNBC
Rachel Maddow reports on Senator J.D. Vance, Donald Trump's running mate, arguing for the end of U.S. funding Ukraine in its defense against Russia's invasion, and his extremist stands supporting a ban on all abortions without exceptions, including rape or incest. - Aired on 07/16/2024.
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Rachel Maddow outlines J.D. Vance's radical extremism on Ukraine, abortion rights - Republican National Convention MSNBC (Original Post)
Rhiannon12866
Jul 17
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Klarkashton
(1,141 posts)1. Vance is a world class piece of shit con man.
He is a shape shifting weird bastard who is whatever he thinks will make him more important.
LetMyPeopleVote
(152,355 posts)2. Why JD Vance's record on abortion rights matters in 2024 race
If Donald Trump didn't want a running mate who was too extreme on abortion rights, he really shouldn't have tapped the senator from Ohio for the Republican ticket.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/jd-vances-record-abortion-rights-trump-2024-race-rcna162554
To be sure, too staunch is a matter of perspective, but if the presumptive GOP nominee tapped Sen. JD Vance for the ticket assuming that his views on reproductive rights would seem mainstream, Trump made a poor choice.
Take this Washington Post report, for example.
Unfortunately for the Republican ticket, this is just one of many relevant data points.
While Trump has avoided endorsing a national abortion ban, for example, CNN reported that Vance, during his Senate candidacy, said, I certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally.
Vance, the year before reaching Capitol Hill, said at the time, Im sympathetic to the view that like, okay, look here, heres a situation lets say Roe vs. Wade is overruled. Ohio bans abortion, in 2022 or lets say 2024. And then, you know, every day George Soros sends a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately Black women to get them to go have abortions in California. And of course, the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity uh, thats kind of creepy......
And did I mention that Vance publicly endorsed his home states six-week abortion ban, which does not include exceptions for rape or incest? Because he did that, too.
All of which brings us back to the concerns Trump reportedly expressed in the spring. Hes concerned it will have a drag on the ticket if theyre seen as holding too staunch a position? By any fair measure, Vance is one of the Senates most far-right Republicans when it comes to reproductive rights, with a series of beliefs that most Americans would see as extreme.
Take this Washington Post report, for example.
Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), newly tapped as the GOP vice-presidential nominee, last year joined an effort to enforce the Comstock Act, the 151-year-old federal law that has become a lightning rod in the nations abortion debate. The Comstock Act, which bans the mailing of abortion-related materials, has not been invoked for that purpose in about a century. ... But some Republicans have attempted to resurrect the law to limit or effectively ban abortion nationwide, a position that Vance and other lawmakers conveyed to Attorney General Merrick Garland in a January 2023 letter.
Unfortunately for the Republican ticket, this is just one of many relevant data points.
While Trump has avoided endorsing a national abortion ban, for example, CNN reported that Vance, during his Senate candidacy, said, I certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally.
Vance, the year before reaching Capitol Hill, said at the time, Im sympathetic to the view that like, okay, look here, heres a situation lets say Roe vs. Wade is overruled. Ohio bans abortion, in 2022 or lets say 2024. And then, you know, every day George Soros sends a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately Black women to get them to go have abortions in California. And of course, the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity uh, thats kind of creepy......
And did I mention that Vance publicly endorsed his home states six-week abortion ban, which does not include exceptions for rape or incest? Because he did that, too.
All of which brings us back to the concerns Trump reportedly expressed in the spring. Hes concerned it will have a drag on the ticket if theyre seen as holding too staunch a position? By any fair measure, Vance is one of the Senates most far-right Republicans when it comes to reproductive rights, with a series of beliefs that most Americans would see as extreme.