I am sickened to see so-called Biden supporters cheering on Mike Bloomberg, praising him to

[emmaverybo]

the skies. I am also angry at comments saying Biden has never attacked Trump. As I remember it
other candidates’ supporters complained that he was prematurely running in the GE, trying to make it look like he was toe to toe with Trump.

As I recall, Joe’s first campaign ad took up Trump’s unfitness to lead America based on his response to Charlottesville. He sounded this theme of moral unfitness again in his speech after El Paso.

If anyone wants to join in an effort to point out good news about Biden, let’s do it.

[LakeArenal]

1. Contrarians abound.

[macwriter]

2. You are so right

Some people act as if Bloomberg is a perfect swap for Biden. So wrong and misguided on so many levels. And what about the gutless culinary union? Biden is a good friend of ours and Sanders plan for Medicare for all is wrong, but we're not endorsing. How lame is that?

Here's my question: when we reject all lifelong true card carrying democrats to nominate an "progressive" independent candidate (a democratic socialist, not a democrat) or a republican turned democrat with a history of racist and mysogenistic comments, and in some cases, policies, and lose spectacularly, how will we learn to live with a dark red SCOTUS, a march toward oligarchy, no checks and balances and the end of the rule of law where the courts and prosecutors will no longer protect us.

Here's my question to our ultra progressive brethren who say Trump is so unpopular that this is exactly the time to go hard left and drag the middle along kicking and screaming:

What if you stage your revolution and no one wants to enlist?

I will vote this November, rather than cop out like some of our snow flake brethren who couldn't stand to see anyone but their candidate nominated in 2016 . I will vote for my neighbor's dog rather than sit it out. But that's just me. Don't count on independents or never trumpers to go our way and we need them.

[emmaverybo]

5. Really gutless! Agree with other points in your points too. Yes, SCOTUS, very scary.

[calguy]

3. I won't have a problem supporting Bloomberg if my man Joe can't bring it home.

Biden is my first choice because he is hands down the best man qualified to lead our country out of the abyss trump has created. But if Biden fails to get the support, my support then goes to Mike for one reason and one reason only. Besides Joe Biden, Mike Bloomberg is the only person who can beat trump. Beating trump is the ONLY issue I'm concerned with at time and only two people can get it done.

[quickesst]

4. Part of the problem?

Phony "Undecideds". Shields them from any retaliatory remarks concerning their actual chosen candidate.

[wisteria]

6. I know, but everyday something else comes out an out him.

And, we haven’t even seen hi. Debate yet.

[tirebiter]

7. The bizarre circle of Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Bloomberg

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Giuliani began as a Democrat, then switched to an independent in the 1970s, then became a Republican in the 1980s. Bloomberg also began as a Democrat, then became a Republican in the 2000s, then switched to an independent for more than a decade. He returned as a Democrat for the 2018 midterms, where he spent $80 million supporting party candidates. Trump was a Republican in 1987, an independent in 1999, a Democrat in 2001, a Republican in 2009, an independent in 2011, and a Republican in 2012. But through it all, Donald was die hard about, well, Donald.
Both Trump and Giuliani shuffled their ideologies like cards in a casino, but give Bloomberg credit. He may have switched parties, but Bloomberg never discarded his principles on key issues like gun safety and climate change. Still, the three New Yorkers do share a proficiency in tactical street smarts, honed at about the same time and in the same place. Even before Trump, Giuliani produced reality television moments to beef up his image. As United States attorney, he timed arrest announcements to break on the evening news, according to the New York Times...
Giuliani preceded Trump in inciting live wire crowds. “Rudy’s Racist Rants” is how the Cato Institute, not exactly a megaphone for liberals, described his behavior during a 1992 riot of off duty cops against David Dinkins, the incumbent African American mayor at the time. Giuliani infamously egged on police as they stormed City Hall, many hurling racial epithets. Giuliani beat Dinkins in 1993. But as he neared the end of his second term in 2001, he was widely unpopular. It looked as if Democratic candidate Mark Green was going to wallop the Republican candidate, Bloomberg.
i
Giuliani subsequently rebounded in popularity, and his endorsement of Bloomberg assisted that Republican victory. Before the endorsement, Bloomberg was 16 points behind Green. On election night, Bloomberg won, 50 percent to 47 percent. But there was a political wrinkle. In the aftermath of 9/11, some Giuliani supporters floated the idea of postponing the inauguration of Bloomberg for the sake of continuity. The proposal was quashed, but Giuliani embraced it, irking Bloomberg supporters.
The three have been bound by proximity, ambition, and the unique style of New York competitiveness you see in the Citi Field stands when the Mets play the Phillies. They also share another characteristic of challenging electoral norms. In 2008, Bloomberg convinced the New York City Council to extend term limits so that he could run again. Today, Trump disregards presidential standards in pursuit of whatever cravenness excites him at the moment. Giuliani has gone from federal prosecutor who upheld the rules to feral defender of a president who stomps on them



https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/470268-the-bizarre-circle-of-donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-and-mike-bloomberg

[blue-wave]

8. Joe has been standing up to bullies his whole life. He ain't stopping now.

[Skya Rhen]

9. I feel just as sick as you do. I wish Joe's supporters were more loyal. The first sign of a dip in

the polls, they are ready to abandon ship and vote for that baggage-ridden Bloomberg? And praising him regardless of his countless deficiencies?

Say what you want about the Bernie supporters, at least they stick with him through better, or worse, sickness or good health, whether he is consistently third in the polls, for months on end - they VOTE for him. That is how one's candidate wins - being voted for. If only Biden had a fraction of that level of commitment. He is more than we deserve.

[emmaverybo]

10. Well, at least that makes two of us, Skya Rhen! If only Biden supporters...as to Bloomberg, I

will keep my thoughts to myself, though I do have them.