Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders campaign uses its funds to help combat covid 19
This is what a real campaign does that actually cares about the issues. Only campaign to do this so far.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488780-sanders-raises-over-2-million-for-coronavirus-relief-effort%3Famp
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)I applaud the fundraising by Senator Sanders; he should leave the race and make that his focus.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nitram
(24,524 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)If it were a donation of funds held in a campaign war-chest, it might be taken as indicating Sanders was bringing his doomed campaign to a halt.
If this is simply a touting of his asking followers to contribute to charities through his campaign, that is something else again. That is not a sign he has done 'what a real campaign does that actually cares about the issues', it is just posturing in his own interest. There is no need for people to channel charitable donations through the Sanders campaign, after all. A call to his followers to donate would have been just as effective. But it would not have provided a tally for Sanders to bruit about as proof' he alone cares.
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...Act Blue and the charities did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....far beyond what they actually do.
It's a reflection of the candidate who, too, has been taking credit for the work of others - i.e., "The Amendment King". Thankfully they've done it so much that people have finally caught on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,245 posts)There's nothing stopping Bernie from raising COVID funds as an independent Senator from VT.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thucythucy
(8,738 posts)and send people who want to donate directly to the charities that are helping? The money would in all likelihood get there faster, which in itself could save some lives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...on Act Blue. His campaign hasn't given a penny to any of the charities.
What would have been more effective is the contact information for each of the charities so people could contribute directly, eliminating the middle man and getting more money to the charities.
There are significant transaction and credit card fees involved. Depending upon the size of the transaction up to 20% could be deducted.
BTW, that article is from almost three weeks ago, March 21.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)The date I confess I had not noticed....
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ZenDem
(442 posts)...thank you for the info.
I'm not sure why anyone would donate to a charity through a political campaign. Oh...he asked them to.
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Progressive dog
(7,213 posts)and linking to charities is not a real campaign. It is a dishonest campaign. Bernie needs to stop using any pretext to continue a campaign that now has become a helper to the President it claims to be working against.
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George II
(67,782 posts)....the campaign isn't giving anything to the charities.
Then they take credit for "raising" the funds.
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we can do it
(12,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(11,090 posts)He is politicizing a health crisis. And he is diverting the donations from his supporters to promote causes of his choice.
I gave this example before: imagine Trump diverting conntributions to his campaign to fund organizations like NRA and Republican National Coalition for Life. What would you say to THAT?
Exactly. That's what I am saying about Bernie's stunt.
If he sincerely wanted to raise money to help the COVID victims, he would have gotten out of politics and started a non-profit charitable organization. And he would have staffed it with competent professionals, not his political operatives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We've been battling epidemic disease successfully all this century. Then COVID arrived when mentally disordered, sociopathic Trump is in the WH and when, double tragically, RW extremist, probably sociopathic Republicans control the senate. And refused to contain it.
The need for some "redemptive" PR is is entirely clear, but forget it. From them, that it's only about good intentions toward others is not credible. I will never forget or forgive the horrendous role Sanders and his camp played in bringing us to this.
That was yesterday. This morning the death toll's risen to 13,000. Current hopeful news is that it may not exceed 100,000.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,983 posts)Get out Sanders.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Wrong! A "real campaign" focuses on winning back the White House and defeating the GOP.
Joe is serious about winning the race to the White House. Bernie is serious about grabbing headlines and trying to "shame" others by pretending to be better and the most pure of all... the "only" candidate who "cares" about the "issues". What malarkey!
"Baloney!"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,732 posts)How did that workout? Perhaps rather than compete with actual charities and cause confusion, BS should just end his campaign and encourage people to donate directly to aid groups.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden