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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:18 PM Mar 2020

Sadly the Sanders Campaign is still on the attack against Joe Biden...

THIS is why he should end his campaign and get behind Biden, if nothing but to end the divisive and destructive assault on our nominee. This is just a sample of what they're doing on Twitter:


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Sadly the Sanders Campaign is still on the attack against Joe Biden... (Original Post) George II Mar 2020 OP
I pay no attention. Is anyone, you think? apcalc Mar 2020 #1
yeah like bernie is not massively privileged lol nt msongs Mar 2020 #2
+1 treestar Mar 2020 #34
Sanders is MFM008 Mar 2020 #3
Irrelevant but continues to divide and destroy. George II Mar 2020 #4
Sanders has always been irrelevant-- 30 years in Congress with no... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #5
I know Joe's base is solid and growing. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #6
Where Sanders and his people erred was thinking that in 2016 their support was about 45% or more.... George II Mar 2020 #8
Yay!!! LakeArenal Mar 2020 #10
This Is So Similar To Corbynites In Labour, Sir, They Ought To Demand Royalty Payments The Magistrate Mar 2020 #7
Nothing is further from the truth, Sir. Orafela et al don't insist that every Senator who voted to beastie boy Mar 2020 #12
It Used To Be Mrs. Clinton, Sir, Had The Whole Bloody-Handed Responsibility The Magistrate Mar 2020 #13
My bad. Forgot about Hillary. Bernie's surrogates are only half the brazen hypocrites beastie boy Mar 2020 #14
One Charge Fits All, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #18
Of course they are.. what else they gonna do? Cha Mar 2020 #9
You guys ever see that excellent movie "The Usual Suspects"? BidenBacker Mar 2020 #11
The link wouldn't post properly Celerity Mar 2020 #30
And yet just today as most days a sanders supporter was crying foul about the attacks on bernie Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #15
Had a chance to hastle a few Bernie followers on NPR thread this morning. pazzyanne Mar 2020 #16
Looks like you hardly have a scratch on ya, anne BidenBacker Mar 2020 #17
Trust me, I'm just getting started on the alts-both sides! pazzyanne Mar 2020 #19
Thank you for your service. radius777 Mar 2020 #23
I just don't invest emotionally in their push back. pazzyanne Mar 2020 #25
Trust me, it can be a LOT of fun throwing facts at folks BidenBacker Mar 2020 #24
Childish Kerrycrat Mar 2020 #20
Isn't this some bigoted person who almost got hired on Team Sanders mcar Mar 2020 #21
Yes, he was hired and then fired the next day. But a couple of months later Jane was gushing.... George II Mar 2020 #22
Sanders does more to help Trump than Putin. Doodley Mar 2020 #26
Why not simply move on and forget Bernie and his bros? thucythucy Mar 2020 #27
I Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #35
The primaries are not over! Shemp Howard Mar 2020 #28
Primaries are not elections. showblue22 Mar 2020 #29
He has a mathematical lock. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #31
What is Bernie's path to victory? treestar Mar 2020 #33
Nonesense, Sir, Not Even Worth Refuting The Magistrate Mar 2020 #36
Which upcoming primaries will Sanders win? George II Mar 2020 #37
Oh wow, Biden is now equal to Dubya treestar Mar 2020 #32
 

apcalc

(4,516 posts)
1. I pay no attention. Is anyone, you think?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(70,123 posts)
2. yeah like bernie is not massively privileged lol nt
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
34. +1
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:34 AM
Mar 2020

The way that tweet covers it they forgot that transferrence to the candidate includes Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MFM008

(19,993 posts)
3. Sanders is
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020

Irrelevant at this stage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Irrelevant but continues to divide and destroy.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Sanders has always been irrelevant-- 30 years in Congress with no...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

legislative history, but he managed to reinvigorate a few of the hippies still alive.

Nader's Raiders anyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,767 posts)
6. I know Joe's base is solid and growing.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders is like a pesky fly. Buzzz Buzzz
I think I might block Sanders thread.
Sometimes I think they get posted here to rile us up. I’m tired of that.

I’m taking a new road:
Joe Biden is our next President.
I confident. No more such and such is handing anything to a trump win.
Confidence is just as persuasive as fear and snark.

I am confident in our road to the White House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Where Sanders and his people erred was thinking that in 2016 their support was about 45% or more....
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:53 PM
Mar 2020

But what they didn't factor in was that a big part of it were people who didn't like Clinton. We're seeing this year that his "support" really is below 30%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
7. This Is So Similar To Corbynites In Labour, Sir, They Ought To Demand Royalty Payments
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:29 PM
Mar 2020

At least those people, in attacking Mr. Blair over Iraq, attacked someone who actually did lead his country to war.

Insisting every Senator who cast a vote for the authorization resolution shortly before the 2002 election personally killed hundreds of thousands is nonesnse. No one beyond a tiny clique gives a rosy red rat's ass about the matter. They could all be accommodated in the basketball gym of a large rural high school, with undue crowding....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(11,090 posts)
12. Nothing is further from the truth, Sir. Orafela et al don't insist that every Senator who voted to
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:31 PM
Mar 2020

authorize the use of force in Iraq killed hundreds of thousands. They insist, as they always have, that Biden is the only one responsible for those thousands of deaths. In all of their hundreds of instances of fake anger and indignation, it never occurred to them even once to blame anyone else.

This brazen hypocrisy pisses me off even more than their blatant disregard for the truth of the matter. It's as if their entire narrative is intended exclusively for the idiots who have their eyes closed to both.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
13. It Used To Be Mrs. Clinton, Sir, Had The Whole Bloody-Handed Responsibility
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:36 PM
Mar 2020

It will be anyone who seems to stand in the way of 'Bernie', Sir.

And if they are trying to primary a sitting Senator, if he or she voted for that resolution it will be trotted out, and with the air of leveling a devastating charge, too....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(11,090 posts)
14. My bad. Forgot about Hillary. Bernie's surrogates are only half the brazen hypocrites
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:59 PM
Mar 2020

I thought them to be. My profound apologies to Bernie's campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
18. One Charge Fits All, Sir
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:38 PM
Mar 2020

Again, it is a mark of naivite not only about politics but about military operations.

Iraq is best invaded in early spring, if it is going to be done at all. I have some interest in Great War history, and am familiar with Townsend's campaign in 1915. He did not begin moving north till the end of May. He ran into flooding and terrible heat that greatly hampered his operations. Late March is a sort of 'sweet spot', and you may be sure anything I know is well known to our military staffs. Mounting an operation of this sort is not a whim of the moment. It takes months to get everything assembled and ready for action, half a year at least. There is no room whatever for doubt, given when the invasion did occur, that preparations for invading Iraq were underway before the authorization resolution was even presented to the Senate. The thing was going to happen, it had been decided on, and had been set in motion.

The authorization resolution was a quite clever political trap. Recall the Democrats had a mere tie in the Senate, secured by defection of a single Republican shortly after Bush was allowed to take office. Had the resolution been defeated, the looming campaign would have been fought on the line of 'Democrats are soft on Sadam! Democrats side with the enemy!" The result would have been great success for the Republicans, a decimation of our Senate cadre. The Republicans would not have gained two but perhaps a half-dozen seats. The first business of the new Senate would have been passing the authorization resolution, to great patriotic, support our President, fanfare, and all this done in plenty of time for the scheduled invasion to proceed as planned. A unanimous vote by Democrats against the resolution would not have slowed the thing by so much as one hour. It was correctly assumed by many Democrats, especially those with ambitions higher than the Senate, that a vote against the resolution would tar their prospects badly. It is only with a fairly small clique of left radicals a vote for the resolution is seen as evidence of perfidious thirst for war and blood, and a reason to saddle any who did not vote against it with full responsibility for the actions of the Bush administration.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,136 posts)
9. Of course they are.. what else they gonna do?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
11. You guys ever see that excellent movie "The Usual Suspects"?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:22 PM
Mar 2020

This Orfalea oaf is one of 'em when it comes to Bernie's ragtag collection of alt-right-like wanna-be professional muckrakers on his staff.

My First Day in Politics

//medium.com/@0rf/my-first-day-in-politics-bcd93ff7f53c

The link wouldn't post properly so you'll have to cut & paste the link above and add an "https:" to the front of it if you wanna see his garbage but you won't miss any wisdom if you don't bother.

I’m not proud of my past contribution to the endless supply of dumb Youtube videos. Eventually though, I realized the last thing the world needs is another dumb youtube video.

I'm glad he's finally matured a little and has moved up to an endless supply of even dumber Tweets. At least they take up a lot less bandwidth and server memory than stupid videos do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(46,154 posts)
30. The link wouldn't post properly
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:14 AM
Mar 2020

use tinyurl and repost it, it will work

that is also the tool/procedure to post a Tweet link into text in a post

https://tinyurl.com/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(34,547 posts)
15. And yet just today as most days a sanders supporter was crying foul about the attacks on bernie
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:01 PM
Mar 2020

Where?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pazzyanne

(6,599 posts)
16. Had a chance to hastle a few Bernie followers on NPR thread this morning.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:11 PM
Mar 2020

Went after them with facts which really upset some of them. They are not hard to spot. Rather enjoyed myself, and usually I don't attack others, but enough is enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
17. Looks like you hardly have a scratch on ya, anne
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

Musta been a massacre on your part.

Still, good light combat experience for when we get to the general election. These alt-lefts on Bernie's side are rank amateurs compared to the seasoned veterans on the alt-right. Plus those reich-wing fascists have FOX News for heavy artillery instead of some obscure Twitter accounts so they got a lot more firepower.

Gonna be fun so better do a weapons check and resupply your ammo stock.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pazzyanne

(6,599 posts)
19. Trust me, I'm just getting started on the alts-both sides!
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:11 PM
Mar 2020

I try to be Minnesota nice, but this needs a more active approach. I never knew blasting people with facts about their stupid statements could be so much fun, and I am racking up likes and loves as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

radius777

(3,785 posts)
23. Thank you for your service.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:50 PM
Mar 2020


Social media is a sewer filled with alt-left Bernie Bros + alt-right Trumpers + Russians...

But the problem is there are also alot of impressionable people on there, why it's so important to fight back, even though not exactly a pleasant task much of the time.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pazzyanne

(6,599 posts)
25. I just don't invest emotionally in their push back.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:47 PM
Mar 2020

Both sides use a lot of propaganda and talking points which are pretty easy to contradict. I don't go low, just the facts and only the facts along with pointing them to appropriate links.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
24. Trust me, it can be a LOT of fun throwing facts at folks
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020

and there's not much else we can do these days to have some fun with everybody holed up and hunkered down...LOL.

I'm not real big on squabbling with my fellow lefties...would much rather rip Republicans than try to demolish Democrats, which is probably why I watch very little of the debates. Come summer when the general campaign starts in earnest I'll probably post here much less...while it's nice to be among allies for a little R&R, when the war starts for real we can't stay safely behind the front lines at a friendly rearward base forever...gotta head up to the front, fulfill your duty and do battle with the true enemy.

If you come across any forums or sites that have a good mix of Democrats and Republicans in the future lemme know and maybe I'll join you one day...we can spread some fact-based lead together and kill us some cons.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(43,435 posts)
21. Isn't this some bigoted person who almost got hired on Team Sanders
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:26 PM
Mar 2020

and still gets retweeted by Jane Sanders?

Or am I thinking of someone else?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Yes, he was hired and then fired the next day. But a couple of months later Jane was gushing....
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:45 PM
Mar 2020

....all over the place about him and how good he was.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doodley

(10,270 posts)
26. Sanders does more to help Trump than Putin.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:55 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thucythucy

(8,738 posts)
27. Why not simply move on and forget Bernie and his bros?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:59 PM
Mar 2020

At this point I doubt Bernie will ever concede. Hell, I bet he'll still be howling about how "the elites" and "the establishment" stole it from him the day after Biden is inaugurated.

I wonder if it makes sense for all Dems to start the national campaign as if Bernie doesn't even exist. Because as a leader, an "inspiration" as a progressive even--he doesn't.

If it's Biden versus Trump, and Sanders continues this shit, then it'll be obvious (if it isn't already) that Bernie and his hard core supporters would prefer a Trump victory. I think Susan Sarandon's statement in 2016 still reflects their thinking: that the more people suffer, the better the chances of "the revolution" happening. As long as they're not the ones suffering, of course.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
35. I Agree, Ma'am
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:44 AM
Mar 2020

Declare only one Democrat remains in contention, and proceed appropriately....





There is no question 'Bernie' knowingly presents our Party with the threat that a number of his supporters will not vote for anyone but him, and therefore he should be given concession after concession. The problem is that 'Bernie' really couldn't bring them along if attempts to buy him off were made. He deliberately tries to inflame supporters to such a heat that if he did try and bring them along with an endorsement of the winner, some would surely just denounce 'Bernie' as a sell-out. He has 'called up that which he cannot put down'.

That said, a number like this is unlikely to hold through to November. Some of this just reflects the heat of battle, and will have cooled considerably by the time the actual choice, Mr. Biden or the cheap thug Trump, is present in the voting booth.




"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
28. The primaries are not over!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:54 AM
Mar 2020

Joe is the presumptive nominee. No doubt about that. But the primaries are not over. So every remaining candidate - and their supporters - have every right to criticize every other candidate.

My opinion on that will change once Joe has a mathematical lock on the nomination. But we are not there yet. To demand that all debate and criticism be shut down now...that’s about as undemocratic as you can get.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
29. Primaries are not elections.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:16 AM
Mar 2020

We are selecting our nominee. Joe won. Bernie can not catch up no matter what happens from here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
31. He has a mathematical lock.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:22 AM
Mar 2020

The only reason that 538 doesn't have Biden at 100% is because their model considers the possibility that he would drop out for health reasons, etc. Even considering that possibility, Sanders has a 0.1% chance of winning the nomination.

It's over. Sanders and some of his supporters just refuse to accept that it's over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
33. What is Bernie's path to victory?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:33 AM
Mar 2020

How many delegates are left, and how many of them does Bernie have to win in order to win the nomination?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
36. Nonesense, Sir, Not Even Worth Refuting
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:45 AM
Mar 2020





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. Which upcoming primaries will Sanders win?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:51 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. Oh wow, Biden is now equal to Dubya
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:32 AM
Mar 2020

I always figured the only reason Benghazi wasn't Obama's fault was because he wasn't running for POTUS. That tweet is as unhinged as the claims Hillary "killed" the people killed at Benghazi.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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