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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:04 AM Mar 2020

Senator Sanders, I'm afraid, built a coalition of supporters

based on discontent. Sadly, for him, discontent can only produce limited results, and such supporters can be fickle, in the end.

His support, I believe, was based less on his political positions on issues than on discontent with how this society chooses its leadership. It is easy to find people who are unhappy with current leadership. We all are unhappy with the person taking up space in the White House, for example. We are Democrats, after all, and Donald Trump is sort of a Republican.

However, a majority of Democrats are not discontented with Democratic policy positions, as stated in our Party's platform. That is reflected in the primary results after all but two serious candidates dropped out of contention. After that, it was clear that Senator Sanders did not have enough supporters to carry him to the nomination.

In the post-Super Tuesday primaries, turnout of youthful Sanders suppoters was low and his election results were not what he had hoped for. As I said in the first paragraph, supporters who support out of discontent are fickle. Like most people, they saw that Senator Sanders would not prevail and simply stayed away from their polling places.

Now, however, we have a life-threatening pandemic gaining strength. Bernie Sanders has no effective response to that, so low turnouts in future primaries will, once again, not include the fickle.

Sorry, Bernie. It's not going to work out for you in 2020. You took another stab at getting the Democratic nomination, but it is not to be. Please withdraw and endorse Joe Biden so we can unite behind our nominee and focus on staying alive.

Thank you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Senator Sanders, I'm afraid, built a coalition of supporters (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2020 OP
Agree! We should also remember dotard did the same and it won't help with his re-election Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #1
When will you have had enough of this? FiveGoodMen Mar 2020 #2
When the primaries are over showblue22 Mar 2020 #4
When Bernie does the right thing and suspends? Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #6
When the Sanders campaign and supporters stop trying to destroy Biden Peacetrain Mar 2020 #8
CORRECT IN EVERY WAY ... When the Sanders campaign and supporters stop trying to destroy Biden trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #23
Around the same time the Sanders camp stops propping up false smears. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #9
Enough of what? MineralMan Mar 2020 #10
As soon as we have a Democratic nominee for President. MineralMan Mar 2020 #14
Bernie is still in, so we can still argue about it treestar Mar 2020 #21
When Biden's top surrogates like Nina Turner & Susan Sarandon stop pushing this Reade narrative n/t nolawarlock Mar 2020 #22
I understand the discontent of the left; Magoo48 Mar 2020 #3
Most people Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5
Oh PatSeg Mar 2020 #18
Perhaps, then, you hope a "centrist" as you term it, will not win MineralMan Mar 2020 #11
The only candidate I believe capable of the job Magoo48 Mar 2020 #19
Do you have examples? Hav Mar 2020 #12
Many of us are discontent PatSeg Mar 2020 #13
Exactly. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #15
Thank you! PatSeg Mar 2020 #17
That discontent was based upon a false hope that Sanders will actually deliver NCProgressive Mar 2020 #16
Exactly, Sir --- The Fellow Is A False Prophet The Magistrate Mar 2020 #20
I now wish that Bernie had run as a Rublican't world wide wally Mar 2020 #7
I now wish that Bernie hadn't run at all. got enough of his antics in 2016 trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #24
 

Thekaspervote

(34,547 posts)
1. Agree! We should also remember dotard did the same and it won't help with his re-election
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:08 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
2. When will you have had enough of this?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
4. When the primaries are over
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:22 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,336 posts)
6. When Bernie does the right thing and suspends?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:25 AM
Mar 2020

As long as he insists on still seeking the nomination, folks need to be reminded of his failures as a leader.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(23,622 posts)
8. When the Sanders campaign and supporters stop trying to destroy Biden
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:26 AM
Mar 2020

The supporters of Joe Biden and his program proposals are just as passionate as the Sanders supporters..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(18,056 posts)
23. CORRECT IN EVERY WAY ... When the Sanders campaign and supporters stop trying to destroy Biden
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:24 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
9. Around the same time the Sanders camp stops propping up false smears.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:31 AM
Mar 2020

First, it was "dementia".

Then, it was that Biden had disappeared.

Now, it's a sexual assault story that even Fox News won't touch.

A better question might be: when will you have had enough of your candidate's campaign promoting false smears?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
10. Enough of what?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020

Giving my opinion on the Primary race? Is that not what this forum is for?

Of hoping to defeat Donald Trump in November? Is that not what DU is all about?

Of supporting the leading Democrat in the primary race? I will never have enough of that.

So, what do you think I should have had enough of? I have had quite enough of attempts to defeat Democrats who run for President. Of that, I have had more than enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
14. As soon as we have a Democratic nominee for President.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

Then, I will shift to GOTV efforts to help that nominee win. At this time, there are still two candidates. I support Joe Biden for the nomination. I will continue to point out why Senator Sanders should withdraw, because he cannot win the nomination and we need to move on to the next phase in defeating Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. Bernie is still in, so we can still argue about it
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
22. When Biden's top surrogates like Nina Turner & Susan Sarandon stop pushing this Reade narrative n/t
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 02:57 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Magoo48

(5,275 posts)
3. I understand the discontent of the left;
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020

it’s what so called centrists are content with that drives me looney.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Turin_C3PO

(15,773 posts)
5. Most people
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:24 AM
Mar 2020

you call “Centrists” on this website are actually progressives who have a different idea of how to get to the same goals. They believe that these goals will only be achieved through incrementalism and compromise. That’s what I believe, at least.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(49,694 posts)
18. Oh
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:46 AM
Mar 2020

I think you explained it very well. I'm so tired of being called a "centrist" or "moderate". It is a political tactic that denigrates a large portion of the Democratic party. Who gets to decide who is liberal?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
11. Perhaps, then, you hope a "centrist" as you term it, will not win
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:34 AM
Mar 2020

in November. I'm not content with that idea at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Magoo48

(5,275 posts)
19. The only candidate I believe capable of the job
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:48 AM
Mar 2020

before us was rejected. Liz Warren was the brightest and most creative of the good mob we began with. So,

blue no matter who.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hav

(5,969 posts)
12. Do you have examples?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

I often see a misconception among BS followers about what "centrists" stand for. I think that there is much overlapping in regards to basic principles but different paths to get there. Promises and ideas aren't enough, you need a way to achieve it as well.
So instead of being vague and assuming what a non-monolithic group believes, why not voice what you are "looney" about.

I'll start with some examples that too many believe only BS stands for or has plans for: (Affordable) healthcare for all, fair wages, climate change, affordable education.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(49,694 posts)
13. Many of us are discontent
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

Where we differ is on the solutions to our problems and the person most capable of solving those problems. Many of us are not "centrists" or "moderates". We just don't think Bernie is the right person for this moment and we don't all agree with his approach for fixing the many issues facing us.

There is so much more to being president than a laundry list of policies and big rallies. A president has to be a decision maker and a diplomat, capable of compromise. He/she has to be flexible, able to absorb new ideas and points of view. And right now people need more hope and inspiration and less angry indignation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(15,773 posts)
15. Exactly.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:39 AM
Mar 2020

You explained it much better than I did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
16. That discontent was based upon a false hope that Sanders will actually deliver
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:39 AM
Mar 2020

If you had surgically analyzed what Sanders was sloganeering, youd have known that none of his false promises had an iota of a chance of passing.

One cannot complain about being hungry and simply dream of steak and lobster. That will cause death by starvation.

Prudent hungry people start with crackers, ramen noodles, mac & cheese and a can of beans. Then keep working towards a hot dog, then hamburgers and keep marching towards their steak and lobster.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
20. Exactly, Sir --- The Fellow Is A False Prophet
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:01 PM
Mar 2020

I suspect he knows this, and if he does not, that is an even heavier charge against him.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

world wide wally

(21,827 posts)
7. I now wish that Bernie had run as a Rublican't
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:25 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(18,056 posts)
24. I now wish that Bernie hadn't run at all. got enough of his antics in 2016
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:26 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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