Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumPoll: Biden has small lead over Trump in Michigan
Former Vice President Joe Biden holds a small lead over President Trump in a head-to-heard matchup in Michigan, according to a new poll released Thursday by the Market Research Group.
The poll showed that 44 percent of respondents surveyed favored Biden, compared to Trump, who garnered 41 percent support from participants.
The poll also showed incumbent Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) ahead of his Republican opponent, John James, by seven points, 3 percentage points over the margin of error.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489791-poll-biden-and-trump-neck-and-neck-in-michigan
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,540 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
luvallpeeps
(1,104 posts)thinking about anyone who would want 4 more years of this shit! Seriously.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,540 posts)What in the hell is not working in these knucklehead people?
Edit to say: not being disparagingly critical of the people in Michigan at all.
These wreakers are here around me also. You just want to scream!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,540 posts)'Twas to be not a mistake. Hi Cha, my sojourner in this present state of affairs hopefully soon to be over and done with!
Love you!
🏖💜🌈🙏💐🕊🦋🦄
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,018 posts)Yes, in the mean time how are you doing with our lockdown status?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,540 posts)Just got my dogga daughter's mobile grooming in today. Today Friday, shutting down all non essential businesses. This one may change bc there's virtually no really close contact between us hoomans. Me, 'kooky wise acre lady bearing gifts' gave the groomer $$ payment, 2 rolls TP and four nice organic honeycrisp apples. 😆We shall see regarding the future. I can still bring her to our vet and have her done there. I just need to sit in the back seat with her and sumbuddy drive. Don't laugh. Last year for her annual checkup and immunizations, my priest came over and took us!😄 When I asked him, he said it'll be fun. Mommie self medicated before. Kidding! I still had my husband's car and we took it. They ended up buying it in December for the mrs. There is some kinda spiritual tie going on there. They miss my husband bad. He served our church community faithfully. Sprink, well she's easy breezy bohemian at times, when the spirit moves me. 😇
I pray you and yours keep healthy, and may resources to fill your needs be met. 💜
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,018 posts)Glad your doggie is taken care of for now. I know how important our dogs and cats are.. and birds!
We got shutdown on Wednesday here.. only can go out for groceries and meds. And, we can run and take walks. Thank Goodness bc I don't take meds but I need to run!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,540 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,018 posts)💜
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,540 posts)'They' say it happens. Sheesh.
A calm and peace-filled night be to you and yours. 🌠
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moostache
(10,135 posts)ARe you all huffing freon?
This is not a tough call people...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,018 posts)time comes to Vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)They only get a B/C grade. Monmouth gets an A+ from 538 and they have Joe up by 7 in MI which is more believable...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_biden-6761.html
Recent poll rankings here...
FiveThirtyEights Pollster Ratings
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
Biden ahead in several key battleground states. Wish the election was tomorrow even if nobody could vote because of the virus.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
catbyte
(35,695 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,018 posts)StaySafe, catbyte!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
catbyte
(35,695 posts)😷
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,018 posts)Good girl!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Hillary STILL ahead of Bernie 4 years later and she ain't even running...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/
Too damn funny. Bet that made Nina give out a primal ear-piercing scream.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,018 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)And now Cuomo has overtaken him as well. Again, another one who isn't even running. That makes it even more questionable why BS continues to remain in the race and it shows how futile all this is. This isn't about personal preferences, people are more inclined to put their money on the line for options that aren't even in the race because they see that as the better investment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:13 AM - Edit history (1)
From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway.
From Mr. Chait at New York magazine:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-joe-biden-2020-voters-establishment.html
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Maybe Bernie's poll numbers will be higher in 2024 if he DOESN'T run?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)Bernie, drop out, that might increase your chances to win!
But time is of the essence. Clinton and Cuomo already have a headstart.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
James48
(4,594 posts)Im here in Michigan, and I can tell you there is no enthusiasm for Joe from a large portion of traditional Dems here.
Its not that people dislike him- its that he just doesnt have campaign electricity, enthusiasm or spark.
His VP pick needs to be someone that gets enthusiasm injected into the campaign, or else winning is going to be a real problem in November. Joe will have to get turnout, and that is going to take electricity.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)maybe you're hanging out with the wrong crowd? Because the numbers belie your observations.
Turnout in MI in the 2016 Dem primary was well under 1.2 million. Hillary lost it to Bernie by about 1.5% yet went on to lose the state by less than a lousy 11,000 votes in the general election.
Turnout in the 2020 primary soared to almost 1.6 million...a whopping increase of roughly 1/3 more. Biden got 838,000 votes...more than 70% of what BOTH 2016 candidates got combined. And that doesn't even include another +100,000 votes cast early that went to other candidates who have endorsed Joe. And this was with Biden not campaigning in your great state until the eve of the election!
Sure seems to me that the data indicates more than enough enthusiasm to overcome the razor slim margin Trump won by in 2016. Maybe Michigan should worry less about electricity in Joe's campaign and more about getting the electricity turned back on in all their now-dark auto plants?
https://apnews.com/30595986ddb58ff567de1ca3f1872de2
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-primary-elections/michigan-results?icid=election_usmap
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
padah513
(2,671 posts)Just like the truth, facts can never change
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)They'd look the same to me if I was sitting in downtown Detroit instead of little Flagstaff. I enjoy reading anecdotal posts written by folks here from all over the nation but in the end they're still anecdotes and don't often give us the bigger picture.
Did you see what Trump just said about their Governor? THIS oughta help Trump a lot in the great state of Michigan...
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/03/26/coronavirus-president-trump-whitmer-declaration-of-emergency/2923617001/
Go ahead, Michigan...double down on your 2016 stupidity and vote for this evil asshole again. The whole country is counting on you to be a little smarter than that next time around. Pretty sure PA is wising up real fast.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mad cow
(92 posts)MI now allows absentee voting for anyone, whereas you previously had to have a valid reason. The number of absentee ballots was much higher from 2016 to 2020. So, I'm not sure if the surge is correctly attributed entirely to enthusiasm. Increased voting access played a major part.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)All states should go to offering mail-in ballots as an option and push it hard. It's cheaper in the long run, less hassle for voters and makes it much easier for folks to participate in the democratic process.
Maybe that's one good thing that will come outta this virus bullshit since many states who have delayed their primaries are now being forced to go to it if they want their voice to be heard before the convention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFM008
(19,990 posts)For C19 to solve the maggot issue for humanity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,434 posts)Baldwin Wallace University has Biden 47%, trump 42%
That poll is based on 997 RV while the Marketing Resource Group is based on 600 LV
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/michigan/
Here are some more latest polls which show Biden and trump within the MOE in Penn and Wisconsin
According to those polls Sanders loses to trump outside the MOE
That is why it is important to have the primaries resolved ASAP, so the focus can be against trump
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)I see the effect of Bernie's negative campaign of "Biden is demented", "Biden is a rapist" etc. spread through the "naive, gullible and radicalized" network on twitter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden