Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Spits Fire At GOP Senators For Holdup Over Unemployment Benefits
In a blistering speech, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) went off on Republican lawmakers Wednesday night for attempting to prevent the Senates emergency coronavirus relief package from passing because it would include extra relief for the nations lowest-wage workers.
Oh my word, will the universe survive? he mocked his fellow senators as seen in a now-viral video from the Senate floor. How absurd and wrong is that? What kind of value system is that?
The Democratic presidential hopeful tore into objections made by four Republicans to provide laid-off workers with an extra $600 a week over the next four months, on top of what their state unemployment agencies pay.
Link to tweet
Sanders said his Republican colleagues initially wanted to give those making the least amount of money the smallest amount of financial aid. This proposal, made by Sens. Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Ben Sasse (Neb.), Rick Scott (Fla.) and Tim Scott (S.C.), was ultimately defeated.
(snip)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gop-senators-relief-speech_n_5e7c31bac5b6256a7a24aa07
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,601 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,815 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Just_Vote_Dem
(3,129 posts)He should carry a package of Tums with him. Works for me!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(24,006 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,444 posts)empty room is totally in character.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)They were included in the bill DAYS before yesterday's vote. The negotiations were ongoing as he was doing his online rock concert Sunday night.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jorgevlorgan
(10,591 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,815 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jorgevlorgan
(10,591 posts)Crap. Crickets from every other senator. He did well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,815 posts)Sanders wasn't even there when it counted.
Showing up at the last minute does not bode well for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jorgevlorgan
(10,591 posts)What the gop tried to do was rubbish, and he was there when it mattered. I'm no fan of sanders but I'm not going to pretend he hasn't done his part.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Hadnt already taken care of?
Yell at some clouds after the deal was done?
Any two-bit schmuck can do that from deep in the back benches.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ninsianna
(1,353 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jorgevlorgan
(10,591 posts)Almost a whole year!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jorgevlorgan
(10,591 posts)Meaning yearly. No such thing as a 2 week anniversary
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jorgevlorgan
(10,591 posts)But I like it.
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George II
(67,782 posts)The credit goes to Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and Elizabeth Warren, and others - our LEADERS in the House and Senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,804 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)Cough into your sleeve, cover your sneeze with a Kleenex and do not spit. WASH YOUR HANDS!
Good to see he finally returned to the Senate. Sadly the job was done, negotiations finished, the long hours our Senators put in finally paid off. He came back for the vote after they did the heavy lifting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(70,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)However there was a song about it in Sister Act I or II.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Ugh.
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sheshe2
(87,272 posts)Signing on after the work is done.
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Squinch
(52,570 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,767 posts)He will claim "Fighting" for it as one of his accomplishments.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,000 posts)He's burned all of his own bridges at this point
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,724 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Evergreen Emerald
(13,095 posts)to an empty house after all have left so that he can send it all over the media suggesting that he has been a part of the process?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Liberty Belle
(9,608 posts)they will bring them in in small groups to vote. AT least that's what the House said it would do, and probably the Senate is doing the same.
But I doubt many are watching their colleagues on video.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...other speakers had more in attendance in person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(14,348 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)In fact, he was one of the last Senators to speak prior to the vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(14,348 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)To doing the actual hard work that Pelosi, Schumer and Warren were doing.
Funny how this self-serving back bencher showed up only when the deal was done and then started stealing credit for the work real Democrats did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingLife
(46 posts)The HOUSE version of the bill did not include the funds he objected to, had more in help for working people, students, hospitals, local governments, etc, and was already being negotiated into the Senate bill. As usual, Sanders is a flashy PR Empty Suit. Thank goodness he doesn't actually negotiate or work. He just makes speeches that sucker his fans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingLife
(46 posts)People who work, and negotiate did a good job making a horrible bill decent. We can't stop all sleaze, and we can't get everything we want as the GOP has the Senate and the Presidency, but our DEMOCRATS made the bill much better.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/cruise-line-bailout/?utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&utm_medium=email&utm_source=alert&wpisrc=al_business__alert-politics--alert-economy&wpmk=1
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,767 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)Enough said
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)And Sirota supporter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)That might put us in a whole new ball-game.
Just imagine the debates, Sanders opens up and hawks a gob of real honest to God sizzling fire at his opponent's podium!
Now that would be something to see....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,435 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)Millions of people who needed it most benefited from that principled stand.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)Democrats worked night and day to hammer this out while Bernie sat in his home in VT. He only came back to vote when the work was done.
Why was he not in Washington? It is his job. 174 per year. Repeat 174K per year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(87,272 posts)long before he returned from his time off in VT.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Don1
(1,659 posts)Go Democrats!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)The blockage was from four Republican Senators who initially disobeyed orders from McConnell in the matter. McConnell wanted the bill passed as is, and does not tolerate insubordination, at least not insubordination that goes beyond a few short-lived gestures. The grand 'Bernie' speech, stirring as it may have been, can have had no more actual effect than possibly to have given cover for the four Republican dissidents to submit to McConnell's demand for their votes in assent without too much ruffling of feathers all around. Everyone involved, from Speaker Pelosi and Sen Schumer, through McConnell and McCarthy, clear down to Trump itself, wanted the bill passed in the form it was presented, and except when the four Republican dissidents spoke to themselves, they heard nothing from anyone but demands they strike their colors and end their foolishness. Sanders threat, that he would hold up the bill by some manipulation of the rules, was as empty as the gestures of the four Republican dissidents. It would not have been tolerated by leadership of either side, and could not have stood more than a few hours. This is not some Frank Capra movie, grand speeches on the Senate floor nowadays move no one by the time the actual vote looms, and neither side of this showboating kerfuffle had any real threat at their disposal. Without a real threat, there is no leverage, and nothing is moved.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)I think McConnell has no bottom and it is my opinion that McConnell allowed the challenge to test for an additional concession before passage.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"Children make the best opponents at Scrabble, as they are both easy to beat and fun to cheat."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)All right then.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"I am a man with principles, and chief among them is flexibility."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)Very clever response sir.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)But I won't.
Beelzebub's bedtime has arrived.
Be well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Here is an item which seems to bear on our exchange, just posted up here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213183689
I freely acknowledge it may serve to strengthen your case, though I remain convinced of my view.
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)So far youre giving credit for something real Democrats did to someone who had nothing to do with the final bill, but yelling at some clouds after all was settled and done.
4 repukes werent putting a dent in anything that 92 others were already on board with. They were doing exactly what BS was doing: Making noise to look good to the peanut gallery while doing zilch in reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Pelosi already had it stripped out and an agreement in it while this slackers was navel-gazing in Vermont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Don1
(1,659 posts)Good job, Sanders!
Good job, Team!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)After everything was already settled and done by real Democrats while this poser sat in his ass in Vermont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Has zero concept of what team means, because theres no I in it. He has no idea how to work with others, only how to yell for credit that he did nothing to earn.
Explains why he has such a pitiful legislative record, despite 30 years in DC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Just wanted to be the one who gets this thread a flame on the summary page.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:13 AM - Edit history (1)
Bernie, shrugging off a slew of missed votes, at long last emerges from isolating. He creakily ascends the dais and strikes the usual pose.
'Ahem.' 'Derrrp.' *cack*
Acolytes feign wonderment for all. 'I see fire, spat!'
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yavin4
(36,182 posts)But his cult following will gobble it up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(24,006 posts)Old man yellow at cloud.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden