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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Yavin4

(36,182 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:54 PM Mar 2020

Biden will need a VP that can do the heavy lifting of drafting new legislation, budgets, policies

Biden will be walking into a shit show after Trump. God only knows just how fucked the world will be when he assumes the office. If this crisis ended today, it would take a year or more to get us back to normal.

We have to get out of the frame of mind that once we elect Biden, it will be Obama's world all over again. No, friends, the world will be in a much worse place than when Obama took over in 2008. Much worse.

Biden needs a real partner to help him through this mess. Biden needs the best policy maker in the Democratic party, and that Democrat is Elizabeth Warren bar none.

My fear is that the moderates will pull Biden to the center and have him focused on the budget which would be a huge fucking mistake. He needs a Progressive near him to pull him towards the bold changes that will be needed to get this country back on its feet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Biden will need a VP that can do the heavy lifting of drafting new legislation, budgets, policies (Original Post) Yavin4 Mar 2020 OP
I am sure he can count on Obama to be his advisor, formal or informal. beastie boy Mar 2020 #1
How about Barrack in the Surpreme Court? marble falls Mar 2020 #6
Obama has put in his time. Yavin4 Mar 2020 #8
Obama will certainly disagree with this assertion. beastie boy Mar 2020 #11
Amen Tribetime Mar 2020 #37
"a Progressive ... to pull him towards the bold changes" left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #2
The bulk of the key primaries were before this crisis Yavin4 Mar 2020 #9
Well ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #14
Absolutely right CanonRay Mar 2020 #3
And demanding impeachment on Jan. 23rd. n/t Yavin4 Mar 2020 #10
Biden-Warren Turbineguy Mar 2020 #4
Your not alone!!! N/T busterbrown Mar 2020 #12
I could live with that ticket.... ;) getagrip_already Mar 2020 #26
Absolutely not! question everything Mar 2020 #39
Sounds like a job for Elizebeth Warren, Kamela Harris, Stacy Abrams - and there's more ... marble falls Mar 2020 #5
Agree, except for the Warren part. We can not afford to lose even one Senate seat. Full stop. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #7
baker won't pick her replacement.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #28
Nope. Too risky. Not a certainty. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #35
f' brady... good riddance getagrip_already Mar 2020 #36
Okay, fair points. I was just trying to start out on the side of the Pats "Faithful" FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #43
No one more qualified pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #13
"No one more qualified than Elizabeth Warren" left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #16
Consider this if you will? Raggaemon Mar 2020 #15
We need Warren in the Senate. Period. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #17
I don't think he would pick Warren. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #19
Warren should step into McConnell's loafers as solara Mar 2020 #21
Mine too! BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #23
We will need to win the election first. I would not take anything for granted at this point. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #18
that Nikki28 Mar 2020 #20
former Labor Secretary Hilda Solis dweller Mar 2020 #22
You and I seem to be the only people here who realize how great a pick she would be. StevieM Mar 2020 #24
gotta get her name on ppl's minds dweller Mar 2020 #27
He should pick Sanders mikelgb Mar 2020 #25
" the best policy maker" pattyloutwo Mar 2020 #29
Warren is the best policy maker in the Democratic Party, but she's needed in the Senate. NBachers Mar 2020 #30
Agreed. I think they're both really knowledgeable ecstatic Mar 2020 #31
Then his VP should be Katie Porter LakeArenal Mar 2020 #32
And her qualifications are? question everything Mar 2020 #40
Do VPs Actually Draft Legislation and Policies? Indykatie Mar 2020 #33
"Centrism" works in normal circumstances. Yavin4 Mar 2020 #34
Many of us support Biden over Sanders because we like him being moderate question everything Mar 2020 #38
I need you to understand something. Yavin4 Mar 2020 #41
I've said for a year Biden/Harris is our dream ticket. Nothing has made me change my opinion. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #42
 

beastie boy

(11,090 posts)
1. I am sure he can count on Obama to be his advisor, formal or informal.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:58 PM
Mar 2020

No one is better equipped for saving the country from Republican shitshows.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marble falls

(62,018 posts)
6. How about Barrack in the Surpreme Court?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Yavin4

(36,182 posts)
8. Obama has put in his time.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:08 PM
Mar 2020

Let the man rest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(11,090 posts)
11. Obama will certainly disagree with this assertion.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020

It's not like he is seventy years old, is it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. "a Progressive ... to pull him towards the bold changes"
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

The voters have spoken.
Progressives didn't do well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Yavin4

(36,182 posts)
9. The bulk of the key primaries were before this crisis
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:10 PM
Mar 2020

We are in a different world since Jan.-Feb. 2020, and we will be in a far worse world in Jan. 2021. Extreme times call for bold actions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
14. Well ...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

That's one view.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CanonRay

(14,828 posts)
3. Absolutely right
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

He's inheriting a hollowed out government. Plus the GOP will be blaming him on January 22nd

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Yavin4

(36,182 posts)
10. And demanding impeachment on Jan. 23rd. n/t
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:11 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turbineguy

(38,333 posts)
4. Biden-Warren
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:02 PM
Mar 2020

is my Dream Team.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
12. Your not alone!!! N/T
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:14 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(17,404 posts)
26. I could live with that ticket.... ;)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(48,736 posts)
39. Absolutely not!
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

We decided that we want moderate Biden, not "progressive" Sanders nor Warren.

Warren should not be a heart beat away from the president via a back door.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marble falls

(62,018 posts)
5. Sounds like a job for Elizebeth Warren, Kamela Harris, Stacy Abrams - and there's more ...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

Personally I'm hope Warren can stay in the Senate where she kicks ass on the banking committee maybe she can disinfect Moscow's Mitch's speaker's seat?

We need to show how dynamic we can be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FailureToCommunicate

(14,313 posts)
7. Agree, except for the Warren part. We can not afford to lose even one Senate seat. Full stop.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:06 PM
Mar 2020

There are a good number of VP choices for Biden to look over (or that aren't Senators from states with a Republican governor.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(17,404 posts)
28. baker won't pick her replacement....
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:31 PM
Mar 2020

The dems have veto proof control of the legislature. They will do what they did with dukakis. It will go to special election, and as long as we don't run the same failed candidate again we will keep the seat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FailureToCommunicate

(14,313 posts)
35. Nope. Too risky. Not a certainty.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

Besides, many other candidates for VP without Warren's risk for the seat.

P.S. Sorry about Brady. Talk about bad timing. Maybe he should become a spokesperson for flu protocols? Guys would actually listen to HIS advice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(17,404 posts)
36. f' brady... good riddance
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020

He is a friend and supporter of trump in addition to being a cheat and general asswipe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FailureToCommunicate

(14,313 posts)
43. Okay, fair points. I was just trying to start out on the side of the Pats "Faithful"
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:15 PM
Mar 2020

But, yeah, to heck with him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pinkstarburst

(1,540 posts)
13. No one more qualified
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:17 PM
Mar 2020

than Elizabeth Warren. Biden/Warren would be an unbeatable ticket and would appeal to both progressive and moderate voters. We need everyone to vote in November. Not just the middle of the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. "No one more qualified than Elizabeth Warren"
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

Actually, we have many qualified candidates for VP.

Too early to settle on one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Raggaemon

(68 posts)
15. Consider this if you will?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

Jim Clyburns heartfelt endorsement was seismic, typically endorsements don't carry as much weight in the grand scheme of elections, something unprecedented happened after Clyburn's endorsement that will be used in future studies.

As much as I appreciate senator Warren for the work she does, she has a BIG negative, it was her inability to gain traction with black voters, particularly black women voters.

There's an undeniable truth, it's that the "heart & soul" of the democratic party is it's black women voters, no other democratic voter constituency is more reliable. It would seem to me that by choosing senator Warren, Biden could risk alienating black voters, who without them he would have been written off had it not been for an endorsement for the ages.

I don't mean to suggest that Biden simply choose a black woman, I mean that he be very deliberate looking over the best qualified candidates to choose from, but to keep in mind that to reach the WH he can't get there without the Heart & Soul taking him there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
17. We need Warren in the Senate. Period.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,274 posts)
19. I don't think he would pick Warren.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:35 PM
Mar 2020

She would make a great VP but I think he will go for someone younger.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

solara

(3,869 posts)
21. Warren should step into McConnell's loafers as
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:43 PM
Mar 2020

Senate Majority Leader when he loses everything. That's my hope.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,274 posts)
18. We will need to win the election first. I would not take anything for granted at this point.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:34 PM
Mar 2020

We already know that Republicans do their best to suppress the vote. My biggest fear is that Trump will use this health emergency as an excuse to take even more steps to suppress the vote so that he can stay in power.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nikki28

(572 posts)
20. that
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:41 PM
Mar 2020

is my fear too. I just can't get too excited even though I am happy Biden is in the seat as a candidate.I just have to hold my peace for now until this mess is over the hump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StevieM

(10,539 posts)
24. You and I seem to be the only people here who realize how great a pick she would be.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:26 PM
Mar 2020

But I hope Biden goes with her. She is exactly the kind of person that we need right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dweller

(24,948 posts)
27. gotta get her name on ppl's minds
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:31 PM
Mar 2020

start somewhere

✌🏼

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mikelgb

(6,021 posts)
25. He should pick Sanders
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:27 PM
Mar 2020

Simone Sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pattyloutwo

(407 posts)
29. " the best policy maker"
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:33 PM
Mar 2020

And heavy lifting of drafting legislation - yes! We need Warren. I’m glad Joe knows that about her and I hope he goes with it. I also think Obama would recommend Warren as the pick.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NBachers

(18,107 posts)
30. Warren is the best policy maker in the Democratic Party, but she's needed in the Senate.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:35 PM
Mar 2020

One less Democratic senator, replaced by a Republican one, is not acceptable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(34,334 posts)
31. Agreed. I think they're both really knowledgeable
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:39 PM
Mar 2020

and know what needs to be done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,767 posts)
32. Then his VP should be Katie Porter
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(48,736 posts)
40. And her qualifications are?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020

And her qualifications are?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,853 posts)
33. Do VPs Actually Draft Legislation and Policies?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:48 PM
Mar 2020

"Progressive" policies will required a Senate willing to pass the legislation. I think we forget that the Dems in the Senate are fairly centrist if we're using the new definition of "progressive".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Yavin4

(36,182 posts)
34. "Centrism" works in normal circumstances.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

If we're talking a rising stock market, lowering unemployment, rising wages, yes, sure, Centrism works.

But that's not the world that Biden is walking in to. That world will be in smoldering ruins. The last thing that you want to do is balance the budget and cut spending when the house is charred ruin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(48,736 posts)
38. Many of us support Biden over Sanders because we like him being moderate
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:04 PM
Mar 2020

We see nothing wrong in him being "pulled to the center." And, yes, budget will be the top issue.

Oh, in case you forgot, moderates flipped the House last year.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Yavin4

(36,182 posts)
41. I need you to understand something.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:56 PM
Mar 2020

This virus is causing a global economic disruption and massive displacement. The world that we knew five months ago is gone. Everything has changed. Things that we have taken for granted may no longer be there. For example, our healthcare work force may be overwhelmed, and that will cause cascading health issues. Emergency services for other maladies may be unavailable.

Our educational system may be in chaos as the normal education matriculation has been disrupted. Entire industries may go under. There is already massive unemployment which then means massive defaults on loans.

So, i need you to understand that the old politics are gone. We are in a crazy new world, and the U.S. budget is the very last thing that we need to be worried about. The very last thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
42. I've said for a year Biden/Harris is our dream ticket. Nothing has made me change my opinion.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:58 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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