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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:04 PM Mar 2020

Can I just say, Andrew Yang is having a hell of a good laugh right now?

Senator Cotton, the White House, and Senator Romney have all floated a universal basic income grant in the last 48 hours.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Can I just say, Andrew Yang is having a hell of a good laugh right now? (Original Post) Recursion Mar 2020 OP
A one time emergency aid isn't the same as universal income forever n/t Claustrum Mar 2020 #1
True, but it's a bell that can't be un-rung (nt) Recursion Mar 2020 #3
Oh that's nonsense. We've given out cash before to protect the economy DrToast Mar 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #11
It is hardly the same thing. earthside Mar 2020 #16
Irony is not dead Pachamama Mar 2020 #2
They'll get stingy. I just read they said checks of up to $1000 Walleye Mar 2020 #4
It's not about the number, it's about the principle (nt) Recursion Mar 2020 #6
Well if they actually give out money it proves how desperate they are. Walleye Mar 2020 #9
It took a second to sink in, but fuckin' ya. Lol. I bet he is. And thank you Yang, I have always LizBeth Mar 2020 #5
Biden said he would call him. I hope that's true Recursion Mar 2020 #7
I think so. What I am seeing Biden doing is taking the best of our primary Dems LizBeth Mar 2020 #15
He shouldn't be. Yang may be right about UBI, but this doesn't prove it DrToast Mar 2020 #8
He deserves it. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #10
Well, Hillary describes in her book a fund that would use revenues from national resources betsuni Mar 2020 #13
I loved that sovereign dividend fund idea Recursion Mar 2020 #14
From Andrew Yang Twitter Kathy M Mar 2020 #17
The Fed stimulus is in in the trillions IronLionZion Mar 2020 #18
OK, that one made me actually laugh. flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #19
K&R redqueen Mar 2020 #20
 

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
1. A one time emergency aid isn't the same as universal income forever n/t
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. True, but it's a bell that can't be un-rung (nt)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
12. Oh that's nonsense. We've given out cash before to protect the economy
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:13 PM
Mar 2020

Yang didn't invent that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Claustrum (Reply #1)

 

earthside

(6,960 posts)
16. It is hardly the same thing.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:51 PM
Mar 2020

And I'm not so sure that a one time $1000 check is going to accomplish much.

I guess I tend to favor aid that first goes to people who need it (I don't need it).

And later, once we see the waning of this epidemic, then an economic 'stimulus'.

We need income maintenance right now.

For example, rent in Denver averages $1400 a month -- a one time $1000 check isn't going to do much for someone slayed-off or fired. I would favor a more robust supplement to unemployment.

A universal income of $12,000 annual per person is a whole other proposition.

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Undecided
 

Walleye

(35,186 posts)
4. They'll get stingy. I just read they said checks of up to $1000
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. It's not about the number, it's about the principle (nt)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(35,186 posts)
9. Well if they actually give out money it proves how desperate they are.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020
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LizBeth

(10,804 posts)
5. It took a second to sink in, but fuckin' ya. Lol. I bet he is. And thank you Yang, I have always
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
Mar 2020

utmost respect and appreciation.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Biden said he would call him. I hope that's true
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020

Yang would make an amazing Secretary of Commerce.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LizBeth

(10,804 posts)
15. I think so. What I am seeing Biden doing is taking the best of our primary Dems
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

and letting them shine. I said from the start of all us Dems doing a blue wave vote for Biden. It is not about Biden. I hope he humbly recognizes. The biggest treat for me the last two weeks is all Biden is doing to show me that yes, he recognizes and that appeases my heart so, lol. And gives me a lot of hope. And relief.

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DrToast

(6,414 posts)
8. He shouldn't be. Yang may be right about UBI, but this doesn't prove it
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020

Yang's proposed UBI was in response to the threat of automation. Not global pandemics.

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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
10. He deserves it.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:11 PM
Mar 2020

Some authority needs to get him on the phone and ask him how to proceed. I’ll bet he’s got it all figured out. #MATH

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betsuni

(27,255 posts)
13. Well, Hillary describes in her book a fund that would use revenues from national resources
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:19 PM
Mar 2020

to pay a dividend to every citizen. And if you include financial systems as a shared resource, you can raise money by a financial transactions tax. Once you capitalize the fund you can provide every American with a basic income every year. She was going to call it "Alaska for America." But she couldn't make the numbers work, so had to give up the idea as too unrealistic.

So it's not as if it's a new idea for her.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. I loved that sovereign dividend fund idea
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

Sigh. What could have been.

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Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
17. From Andrew Yang Twitter
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:01 PM
Mar 2020

"My statement on the discussed stimulus package. My team has been in touch with the White House and we are offering resources."

the rest of statement at link




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IronLionZion

(46,926 posts)
18. The Fed stimulus is in in the trillions
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:28 PM
Mar 2020

since we are not a socialist country


Fed will help businesses get up to $1 trillion in funding in the short-term borrowing markets amid coronavirus crisis
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/fed-announces-move-to-help-businesses-get-short-term-funding-in-commercial-paper-market.html

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flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
19. OK, that one made me actually laugh.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

Thanks!

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