No one should go bankrupt due to medical bills.

[Uncle Joe]

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. How often is this going to be posted?

[Uncle Joe]

3. Does this make you uncomfortable?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Not at all. It goes without saying.

All Democrats are opposed to people going bankrupt on account of medical expenses. Bernie didn't invent the concept; anyhow, Bernie is done.

[Uncle Joe]

9. Actually that's the problem, "it doesn't go without saying"

not in modern day America, every political leader worth their salt should be overtly championing that message and most definitely any running for office.

Furthermore no one ever said "Bernie invented the concept."

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Name one Democrat who wants people to go bankrupt on account of medical expenses.

And don't tell me that anyone who isn't blowing their horn for M4A wants people to go bankrupt on account of medical expenses.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

31. Crickets. Not surprised n/t

[betsuni]

17. Bernie often says that the establishment thinks universal health care is a radical idea.

"Health care as a human right, 'Oh, Bernie, that's not ... that's un-American. Nobody believes that.'"

"Four years ago, when we said that health care is a human right, we were told that it was a radical idea, that the American people wouldn't accept it."

The insinuation is that he was the first to come up with it and the establishment wants to stop him because they are beholden to Big Pharma, insurance companies, Wall St., billionaires, etc. etc. etc. as per stump speech.

[ck4829]

25. As often as people go bankrupt from medical bills?

[betsuni]

27. Not so often under the ACA, it's a start.

Thanks, Democrats, for doing something. With a filibuster-proof majority of only 60 in the Senate for only four months and ten days. Not one Republican vote to help. Until there's a Democratic supermajority and Republicans willing to be bipartisan, as FDR had, there's no way to change the law.

[William769]

2. Is this a new concept?

[Uncle Joe]

6. No, it's over a 100 years old.

1900s–1920s

In the first 10–15 years of the 20th century Progressivism was influencing both Europe and the United States.[7] Many European countries were passing the first social welfare acts and forming the basis for compulsory government-run or voluntary subsidized health care programs.[8] The United Kingdom passed the National Insurance Act of 1911 that provided medical care and replacement of some lost wages if a worker became ill. It did not, however, cover spouses or dependents. U.S. efforts to achieve universal coverage began with progressive health care reformers who supported Theodore Roosevelt for President in 1912, though he was defeated.[9] Progressives campaigned unsuccessfully for sickness insurance guaranteed by the states.[10] A unique American history of decentralization in government, limited government, and a tradition of classical liberalism are all possible explanations for the suspicion around the idea of compulsory government-run insurance.[8] The American Medical Association (AMA) was also deeply and vocally opposed to the idea,[10] which it labeled "socialized medicine". In addition, many urban US workers already had access to sickness insurance through employer-based sickness funds.

Early industrial sickness insurance purchased through employers was one influential economic origin of the current American health care system.[11] These late-19th-century and early-20th-century sickness insurance schemes were generally inexpensive for workers: their small scale and local administration kept overhead low, and because the people who purchased insurance were all employees of the same company, that prevented people who were already ill from buying in.[11] The presence of employer-based sickness funds may have contributed to why the idea of government-based insurance did not take hold in the United States at the same time that the United Kingdom and the rest of Europe was moving toward socialized schemes like the UK National Insurance Act of 1911.[11] Thus, at the beginning of the 20th century, Americans were used to associating insurance with employers, which paved the way for the beginning of third-party health insurance in the 1930s.

(snip)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_health_care_reform_in_the_United_States

[William769]

8. Just wanted to make sure Bernie wasn't claiming it as his own.

[George II]

4. Again?

[IronLionZion]

7. Pass Medicare for all through both houses of congress

President Biden will sign it into law

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Bingo.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Do you believe Biden would sign Medicare for All

if it passed both houses of Congress?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Yes. Absolutely.

[iwannaknow]

15. He already indicated he would not sign m4a bill in Last Word msnbc interview.

[Thekaspervote]

16. M4a is political suicide... not sure what you don't understand about that

There is not one...repeat, not one single REAL dem candidate or dem holding elected office that wants anyone to go without health care.

So how is it that you think even if sanders were to become president that an independent senator that has been holding political office for well over 30 years and has nothing....nothing to show for it will manage to get a health care bill passed.

I for one am sick of arm chair politicians who seem to think they know... and declare without a doubt they they alone are right.

[George II]

18. No he didn't. NO HE DIDN'T! The "video" being circulated by Sirota and the Sanders campaign....

....has been truncated so only the part of the answer they WANT people to believe is being used.

Biden's answer was more than the few seconds they want you to hear.

[George II]

33. No he didn't. The only thing We see in that video is the first half of his sentence...

The Sanders campaign conveniently omits the second part of his answer, which begins with "if ".

[IronLionZion]

22. There's only one way to find out

[Hoyt]

14. I agree. Medicaid will pick up costs in a lot of states when a patient is faced with big bills

beyond their means. Not saying that’s enough, but it helps.

The question becomes, what’s the quickest way to get to point that no one goes bankrupt due to medical bills? In foreseeable future, I don’t think it’s running on MFA, although I wish it were.

[George II]

19. MFA, if even proposed, is 5-6 years away. He should have introduced it years ago.

[Hoyt]

20. At least. A Public Opening, with enhanced subsidies, can cover the uninsured and

underinsured.

[TreasonousBastard]

28. AFIK, he has. Problem is that every time either his bill sucked or...

he didn't have the political skills to get it to committee. Usually a bit of both.

Remember "I wrote the bill!" Well, he wrote one of four or five bills floating around at the time, and none of them got very far.

[NCProgressive]

21. The primary is over

It will be even more over tomorrow.

[frazzled]

23. That was Obama's oft-repeated line

He said it over and over again. Here’s an example from 2013:

On Thursday, the President spoke at Prince George’s Community College in Largo, Maryland about why access to affordable health care is a cornerstone of middle-class security, and why he took on the work of fixing our broken health care system during his first term.

In the wealthiest nation on Earth, no one should go broke just because they get sick. In the United States of America, health care is not a privilege for the fortunate few -- it is a right. And I knew that if we didn’t do something about our unfair and inefficient health care system, it would keep driving up our deficits, it would keep burdening our businesses, it would keep hurting our families, and it would keep holding back economic growth.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2013/09/27/weekly-wrap-no-one-should-go-broke-just-because-they-get-sick

Could this be considered plagiarism? At best, it shows how young Sander’s supporters are. They never heard it before. It’s kind of like the slimy Sanders ad where he edits together Obama quotes totally out of context to pretend he’s being extolled.

[George II]

29. Joe Biden withdrew in 1988 for less!

Remember his plagiarism "scandal"?

[ck4829]

24. K&R

[lapfog_1]

26. List for me please just what SHOULD people go bankrupt over

which are things out of their control.

Natural disasters?

Pandemics that cause a loss of employment?

War?

Stock market crash?

Trying to think of things not in someone's control that can cause massive loss of money.

[Celerity]

30. American Journal of Public Health in 2019 : 66.5% of bankruptcies are due to medical expenses/issues

Medical Bankruptcy: Still Common Despite the Affordable Care Act

David U. Himmelstein MD, Robert M. Lawless JD, Deborah Thorne PhD, Pamela Foohey JD, and Steffie Woolhandler MD, MPH

Accepted: November 27, 2018 Published Online: February 06, 2019

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2018.304901?journalCode=ajph&



This is the real reason most Americans file for bankruptcy

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/11/this-is-the-real-reason-most-americans-file-for-bankruptcy.html

KEY POINTS

Two-thirds of people who file for bankruptcy cite medical issues as a key contributor to their financial downfall.

While the high cost of health care has historically been a trigger for bankruptcy filings, the research shows that the implementation of the Affordable Care Act has not improved things.

What most people do not realize, according to one researcher, is that their health insurance may not be enough to protect them.

[Skidmore]

32. During this time of crisis,

food and shelter are at risk because of work cessation. The world is turned upside down. Some recognition of real time events is essential. I expect to see changes come from this crisis on many fronts.

[MineralMan]

34. Everyone agrees on the bankruptcy statement.

Everyone. There is no candidate who doesn't agree.

How that is ensured, however, has different approaches. Medicare for All is not the only approach.