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wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:45 AM Mar 2020

Trump's Re-election Chances Suddenly Look Shakier

“President Trump faces the biggest challenge yet to his prospects of being re-elected, with his advisers’ two major assumptions for the campaign — a booming economy and an opponent easily vilified as too far left — quickly evaporating.,” the New York Times reports.

“After a year in which Mr. Trump has told voters that they must support his re-election or risk watching the economy decline, the stock market is reeling and economists are warning that a recession could be on the horizon because of the worsening spread of the coronavirus.”

“And instead of elevating Sen. Bernie Sanders, as Mr. Trump made clear was his hope, Democrats have suddenly and decisively swung from a flirtation with socialism to former Vice President Joe Biden, who has run a primary campaign centered on a return to political normalcy.”

~ Taegan Goddard, quoting the NY Times
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Trump's Re-election Chances Suddenly Look Shakier (Original Post) wyldwolf Mar 2020 OP
More to come empedocles Mar 2020 #1
It's absolutely astonishing that Trump isn't laughed out of the room by the media Blues Heron Mar 2020 #2
They put him there, including MSNBC. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #5
Best thing Trump could do right now BidenBacker Mar 2020 #15
If he were a normal human being and loved his country, it could be possible. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #18
A quicker way BidenBacker Mar 2020 #34
+1 CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #46
He can't fire Pence. And no way would the silver weasel resign at Trump's request. argyl Mar 2020 #52
And the hatred of women. We're talking to you Matt Lauer. NNadir Mar 2020 #17
It's more than Lauer. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #21
that's true, they did do that! subana Mar 2020 #29
It was free advertising by the hour. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #45
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #53
Financial meltdown means something else here bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #3
I've been thinking the same thing!! subana Mar 2020 #31
Democrats. Saving American Capitalism Since 1933. BidenBacker Mar 2020 #50
While this trump's defeat may be a fortunate by-product... TommyCelt Mar 2020 #4
Well, on the bright side... BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #6
I think his impeachable attacks on Biden have helped Biden tremendously. lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #13
Isn't that ironic! BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #14
Pay attention to Trump when he says the economy is going down the drain if he is not reelected. keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #7
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump lost 40+ states NCProgressive Mar 2020 #8
It looks as though Trump the germaphobe is going to be beaten by a very small bipartisan germ. usaf-vet Mar 2020 #9
Your post reminded me of the end to this movie: thucythucy Mar 2020 #33
I had forgotten about that movie. Thanks for the reminder. usaf-vet Mar 2020 #39
That's a wonderful idea! thucythucy Mar 2020 #40
How about this movie. The Andromeda Strain adapted from a Michael Crichton book. usaf-vet Mar 2020 #42
Another good one. thucythucy Mar 2020 #44
And crooked Don is going to get this virus Sugarcoated Mar 2020 #54
How ironic the Giant Germophobe gets done Cha Mar 2020 #56
Watching CNBC BidenBacker Mar 2020 #10
Again I must point out that tRUMP cannot be re-elected since he has never been elected. abqtommy Mar 2020 #11
It would be more accurate to say thucythucy Mar 2020 #35
Maybe he'll try to get Rudy to dig up dirt on COVID-19 Dopers_Greed Mar 2020 #12
.. treestar Mar 2020 #25
Wouldn't be surprised if he tries to take advantage... Chicago1980 Mar 2020 #16
Not beyond the realm of possibilities. eom SilasSouleII Mar 2020 #32
POP! BidenBacker Mar 2020 #19
and Biden has put together a pandemic advisory team Chakaconcarne Mar 2020 #22
There's that damn experience for ya BidenBacker Mar 2020 #23
I heard Biden is going to make a speech about the virus today subana Mar 2020 #28
Much of this market meltdown BidenBacker Mar 2020 #30
Risk the economy declining if we don't re-elect him treestar Mar 2020 #24
he is definitely in deep shit! subana Mar 2020 #26
Every 1000 point drop BidenBacker Mar 2020 #27
Mister Market and Mother Nature. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2020 #36
Hey, Krudlow BidenBacker Mar 2020 #37
POP goes the 2nd circuitbreaker BidenBacker Mar 2020 #38
I got some MABA caps for sale...only 20 bucks each BidenBacker Mar 2020 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #43
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #47
No shite. Cha Mar 2020 #48
Trump lost any chance of re-election lees1975 Mar 2020 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #51
Definitely Should.. TY, democratisphere! Cha Mar 2020 #55
 

Blues Heron

(6,110 posts)
2. It's absolutely astonishing that Trump isn't laughed out of the room by the media
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:09 AM
Mar 2020

Mind boggling that anybody could be entertaining four more years of this sabotage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
5. They put him there, including MSNBC.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:03 AM
Mar 2020

It was all about his predicted clusterfark of a presidency that was supposed to give them daily fodder. The prediction came true, but it didn't do America or the world any favors.

Can we call it a re-election? He was voted in by the more ignorant states and not the people. He finished second.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
15. Best thing Trump could do right now
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:22 AM
Mar 2020

Fire Pence...appoint Biden VP...and then resign.

That would save 10 months before the inevitable happens...and might make the difference between everybody being either dead or dead broke and not.

These guys are in so far over their heads it ain't even funny.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
18. If he were a normal human being and loved his country, it could be possible.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:32 AM
Mar 2020

So much for that!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
34. A quicker way
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:06 AM
Mar 2020

would be to just fire Pence and resign himself. Then we'd have President Pelosi who would keep the ship afloat until Inauguration Day.

She was involved in the last financial crisis and knows what's what. Still remember the day she walked outta some big meeting white as a sheet because of how close we came to a complete and total meltdown when the capital markets froze up...

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95099470

Almost all of the biggest stock market crashes in history have come under Republicans because...well, that's just what they do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

argyl

(3,064 posts)
52. He can't fire Pence. And no way would the silver weasel resign at Trump's request.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:36 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NNadir

(34,584 posts)
17. And the hatred of women. We're talking to you Matt Lauer.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:30 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
20. It's more than Lauer.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:37 AM
Mar 2020

Sure, he always came across as a smug jerk and it was fun to see him fall, but the media is teeming with those types.

Even American voters fall into this category (hint, hint).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #20)

 

subana

(586 posts)
29. that's true, they did do that!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:56 AM
Mar 2020

covering every speech or comment no matter how ridiculous it was!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
45. It was free advertising by the hour.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:06 PM
Mar 2020

A typical 30-second spot is expensive. This should violate campaign laws.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(46,827 posts)
3. Financial meltdown means something else here
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:24 AM
Mar 2020

Our markets function, our banks have cash, liquidity is fine. But fighting the pandemic will cause massive contraction of spending and collapse of business balance sheets, particularly small businesses. I mean meltdown. Rents, loans, bond debts are still due. Receipts are diminished. Bills go unpaid, which impacts other businesses. This is off the charts. 1932 all over again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

subana

(586 posts)
31. I've been thinking the same thing!!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:01 AM
Mar 2020

it's going to be more like 1930s again, not 2008! 2008 was just a little hiccup compared to this!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
50. Democrats. Saving American Capitalism Since 1933.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:35 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TommyCelt

(850 posts)
4. While this trump's defeat may be a fortunate by-product...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:56 AM
Mar 2020

This is so frightening and so chaotic; I wish I could laugh and relish in his downfall.

I have an immunocompromised spouse and son in my home. My mom is as well. I never wished more for this trump to do his job well in my life. But that's not going to happen, of course.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BigmanPigman

(52,216 posts)
6. Well, on the bright side...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:05 AM
Mar 2020

At least he was impeached over the correct candidate and his impeachment wasn't wasted on Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. I think his impeachable attacks on Biden have helped Biden tremendously.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:18 AM
Mar 2020

...both in the primaries and the general election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

keithbvadu2

(39,961 posts)
7. Pay attention to Trump when he says the economy is going down the drain if he is not reelected.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:07 AM
Mar 2020

Pay attention to Trump when he says the economy is going down the drain if he is not reelected.

He is telling us what shape he will leave the country in.

Despite his excuses, Trump gets full credit for any bad in the economy just as he takes full credit for any good in the economy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
8. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump lost 40+ states
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:07 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

usaf-vet

(6,864 posts)
9. It looks as though Trump the germaphobe is going to be beaten by a very small bipartisan germ.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:08 AM
Mar 2020
Who could have guessed this would be his nemesis seven months before the 2020 election.

The best part is Covid-19 can't be insulted, bullied, belittled, or threatened by a morning Twitter rant. Sweet!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thucythucy

(8,738 posts)
33. Your post reminded me of the end to this movie:
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:05 AM
Mar 2020


Except for the stuff about God (though this ending is true to the H.G. Wells book, which is awesome, BTW).

The evil monsters felled by something they never anticipated, something they couldn't even see.

Hopefully on January 20th next year we'll all start rising from the smoking ruins left us by Trump and the KGoP.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

usaf-vet

(6,864 posts)
39. I had forgotten about that movie. Thanks for the reminder.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:30 AM
Mar 2020

Sometimes I wish I was an artist or at least a cartoonist.

I have this picture in my head of a CoVid-19 cell like the one in this DU post. The image minus the boat and Trump.



But my image would have the CoVid-19 cell with two legs and big oversize shoes and under one shoe being squashed would be the likeness of Trump depicted by his small hand, red tie, orange face, and blond hairpiece.

Titled: Squashed by a Superior Germ

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

thucythucy

(8,738 posts)
40. That's a wonderful idea!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:32 AM
Mar 2020

And H G Wells was awesome. Read "War of the Worlds" as a kid--was hooked on the first paragraph, which I practically memorized.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

usaf-vet

(6,864 posts)
42. How about this movie. The Andromeda Strain adapted from a Michael Crichton book.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:45 AM
Mar 2020

The Andromeda Strain is a fantastic 70's sci-fi movie, directed by Robert Wise who brought us 'The Day the Earth Stood Still', 'Run Silent, Run Deep', and 'The Haunting'. It was also the first film to be adapted from a Michael Crichton novel.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thucythucy

(8,738 posts)
44. Another good one.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020

I'd forgotten about that.

Then there's this, which is trending everywhere:



And somewhere I have a copy of "Journal of the Plague Year." I'll have to Google to see if anyone has ever done that as a movie.

Be well everyone!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sugarcoated

(8,089 posts)
54. And crooked Don is going to get this virus
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 03:18 AM
Mar 2020

It's just a matter of when

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Cha

(305,137 posts)
56. How ironic the Giant Germophobe gets done
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 03:53 AM
Mar 2020

in by a pandemic virus.. it could very well happen.

The coronavirus has exposed DT's tragic incompetence like no other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
10. Watching CNBC
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:14 AM
Mar 2020

Cramer looks terrified, and just advocated such extreme emergency socialism it would make Bernie look like a piker.

Gotta love them stock-happy capitalists on CNBC, boy...when Wall Street's in deep shit they scream for help from the feds...but when it's Main Street that needs a hand they start the Tea Party.

Futures pegged low again. Boeing down like 15-20% in pre-market. If that's reflective of some other DJIA equities this is market crash levels. We'll be testing circuitbreakers today bigtime...maybe even the 3rd one.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/09/813682567/how-stock-market-circuit-breakers-work

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
11. Again I must point out that tRUMP cannot be re-elected since he has never been elected.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:17 AM
Mar 2020

Don't confuse an election with the ratfucking that installed tRUMP in office. The language of facts is important...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thucythucy

(8,738 posts)
35. It would be more accurate to say
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:13 AM
Mar 2020

his chances of re-selection have gone down.

The names of every single elector who voted for this cretin should go down in infamy in the annals of our democracy--that's assuming of course our democracy--such as it was--will even survive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
12. Maybe he'll try to get Rudy to dig up dirt on COVID-19
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:18 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
16. Wouldn't be surprised if he tries to take advantage...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:28 AM
Mar 2020

Would he ever try to cancel the election do you think?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SilasSouleII

(444 posts)
32. Not beyond the realm of possibilities. eom
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:01 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
19. POP!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:36 AM
Mar 2020

There trips the 1st circuitbreaker.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
23. There's that damn experience for ya
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:47 AM
Mar 2020

Joe's been there, done that.

Not like the BullshitArtist-in-Chief

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

subana

(586 posts)
28. I heard Biden is going to make a speech about the virus today
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:53 AM
Mar 2020

that will be good, at least we'll be able to hear from a real politician with real leadership for a change!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
30. Much of this market meltdown
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:00 AM
Mar 2020

is because we have ZERO leadership. Joe can go a long way toward showing the country what it would look like to have a real leader again.

That's the good news...the bad news is that everybody will then realize we still got over 10 months to go before we can get him in there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. Risk the economy declining if we don't re-elect him
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:49 AM
Mar 2020


So now the economy is good only if he is President? How did we ever survive before?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

subana

(586 posts)
26. he is definitely in deep shit!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:51 AM
Mar 2020

even if anyone is left alive when all of this is over, the economic difficulties will take a very long time to overcome, if ever!

Since he made his public statement last night, I wonder if his fans will still say the virus is a hoax.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
27. Every 1000 point drop
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:52 AM
Mar 2020

is at least another 1 million votes for Joe.

Hell, I bet come November even Munchkin, Krudlow & the surviving Koch brother will vote for Biden.

Not Adelson, though...he'll probably have eaten a bullet by then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DinahMoeHum

(22,484 posts)
36. Mister Market and Mother Nature. . .
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:14 AM
Mar 2020

. . .are giving Trump and the GOP the finger and a vote of no confidence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
37. Hey, Krudlow
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:17 AM
Mar 2020

Keep buying them dips, bro!

Imbecile.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
38. POP goes the 2nd circuitbreaker
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:21 AM
Mar 2020

This reminds me of "Titanic" when the engineers were futilely trying to keep the relays in and the lights on as she was going down.

It didn't work in the movie, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
41. I got some MABA caps for sale...only 20 bucks each
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:35 AM
Mar 2020

"Make America Broke Again"

If I were to vote in a presidential
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lees1975

(5,874 posts)
49. Trump lost any chance of re-election
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

almost from the outset. His presidency has been one stupid, inept move after another and all that adds up. The Democrats are on a roll that got started when Jones won the Alabama senate seat and it hasn't stopped. Trump may pick up 55 million votes but the Democrat, probably Biden, will get 70 million and 335 electoral votes minimum. Foregone conclusion. Trump's toast.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Cha

(305,137 posts)
55. Definitely Should.. TY, democratisphere!
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 03:29 AM
Mar 2020
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