Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders wants just one more chance to make sure Biden understands his agenda.
Does Bernie really think Joe doesn't know where he stands by now?
Joe could probably write the stump speech for him by now. We all could.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,474 posts)He has been screaming it for the last 30 years. Over and over again!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(12,008 posts)It's about where Biden stands on some of these issues. Maybe it's because of the multi-candidate debates and the lack of substance/focus on stupid issues like Hillary Clinton's comments about Bernie and arguing over electability and polls, but I honestly don't know where Biden stands on a lot of the things Bernie talks about. I'd like to know what he is offering besides just a return to normalcy - not to underestimate the value of returning to normalcy and having a Democrat appoint RBG's replacement.
When Obama was elected, we knew that the stimulus and health care were going to be his big pushes right away. I know a little bit about what Biden has proposed, but I don't know what his big legislative pushes are going to be at the start of his presidency. What are his big priorities? For Bernie I know that answer. I don't really know it with Biden and I would like to.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(70,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)This is all about Bernie. The only reason he's still in the race is because this is about Bernie Sanders and the movement that is centered on Bernie Sanders. As it always is.
Biden has already sold himself to voters. That's why he's blowing out Sanders. Sanders should be more concerned about why people are not voting for him than why they are voting for Biden. Sanders is losing decisively and it's rather presumptuous of him to believe that he gets to set the parameters of the debate and set the agenda.
Here's the thing - if he overstays his welcome (again) it will only harm his movement, and there's already evidence - turned in by the voters - that his movement is in serious decline. I think there's going to be much less tolerance of the kind of nonsense that happened in 2016 at the convention and if Sanders insists on dragging this out, he will only further turn people off and will accomplish nothing.
Personally, I hope he stays in the race until Biden has a majority because it will firmly close the door and eliminate any excuses his supporters have about "what if" and "if only".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pandr32
(12,145 posts)He has damaged our agencies and institutions across the board, slashed taxes for the top percentile and underfunded everything outside of the military, and blown up our debt. It will not be an overnight fix. We need a strong coalition to approach it and begin to undo the damage. "Issues", aside from trying to reinstate the ones Obama put in place for the environment, protection of public lands, health care, etc., won't get a "big push" for a long time. We will have to fight the good fight on every piece of wrongdoing we try to right and it will take time.
Add to that all efforts to regain trust abroad. Yikes.
The rest of it will have to wait. Just remember how hard the right worked to kneecap Obama and you might get the idea of what lies ahead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(8,459 posts)...don't stand for what Sanders does.
What Democrats aren't for universal healthcare? What Democrats aren't for raising the minimum wage? What Democrats aren't for reducing/eliminating childhood poverty?
Sanders is yet again purposefully being divisive to enhance his brand while hurting Democrats, the Democratic Party, and our country's last hope to correct course and cure this Trump blight currently infecting our nation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
katmondoo
(6,495 posts)I am not sure if Ted Kennedy wanted Medicare for all or another type of national healthcare. Never heard from Sanders in all those years and I am 90 now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pandr32
(12,145 posts)I am not 90, but I remember as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)That is, quite literally, the stance that he and some of his supporters take.
There was no political history prior to his announcement to run in 2015. Except he was arrested once and there are some vague - and woefully misinformed - references to FDR.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,603 posts)by Bernie's dismissal of the value of MY vote. Another my way or the highway narcissist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Legends303
(481 posts)Bernie can still win and 0.1 is still a chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,815 posts)He has also been consistent in racking up delegates. Bernie bot so much.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,815 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JaneQPublic
(7,116 posts)Taking a few steps back, it was quite rich that Bernie -- the guy who's embraced the same ideology for 30 years yet has succeeded in enacting virtually none of it -- was asking Joe -- the guy who helped get the Affordable Care Act enacted into law -- what he was going to do about getting people health care coverage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boston bean
(36,463 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FM123
(10,124 posts)He thinks they will save him. But he could be very wrong about that - there are 93 colleges and universities in Michigan full of voting age young folks that could have saved him last night if they really wanted to. I guess they didn't, hence the Biden victory.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FM123
(10,124 posts)And not just them, African American voters in Alabama & Mississippi that he snubbed or supporters of Elizabeth Warren (like myself) that he let his bros attack.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden