OMG, he is scolding voters and saying their votes are wrong

[R B Garr]

because they didn't vote for him.

He's not even trying to be reality based. This is really scary now.

[HarlanPepper]

1. Directed right at black voters who have sunk his campaign.

And he wonders why he doesn't connect.

[R B Garr]

4. Yes! He tried to hide that behind "older voters," but we know that AA

voters have rejected him.

This is just unacceptable now.

[dawg day]

26. It really does ring wrong when an "Independent" criticizes the most dedicated of Democrats

for not voting for him to be the Democratic candidate.

More than anyone else in the country, older African Americans KNOW how important voting is, and to be told they voted "wrong"? It's beyond insulting.

[brush]

29. And he didn't win younger black voters by much. He's ignoring reality.

It's sad actually of what he's revealing himself to be.

[Hortensis]

80. Like Trump he fed his base, and indulged his own beliefs,

at the expense of expanding his appeal. Research shows that followers don't just change to adopt their leaders' beliefs, but that leaders also change to reflect their followers.

He's created a a nativism-lite class-warfare movement, an alternative to Trump's hard-line nativist authoritarian one, for instance. Agreeing to serve AA issues would offend many of the socially conservative-leaning bros he needs for his revolution, and even more of them he hoped to draw away from Trump. He made his choice.

And so on and on. In both cases, the bases drawn to the messages they've spread for years now most accurately reflect each of them.

Very on point for the primaries, most of Sanders' hard-core base have an almost fanatic devotion to his theme that Democrats have victimized him and them and are as bad as, and no alternative to, Republicans. To the point that contradicting that message has in the past generated real anger -- against him. Of course, the broad range of sensible Democrats, whom his delusions of large numbers of insurgents flocking to his revolution apparently lead him to believe he wouldn't need, don't agree with it.

A specific discussion about one trait that doesn't apply to all (some are reportedly attracted by a need to be part of something they see as great and meaningful, for instance) but related to this general point, from Scientific American:

The Personality Trait That Is Ripping America (and the World) Apart

There has been an increasing recognition in psychology that personality traits interact with messaging from leaders. "A crucial skill for politicians is... to speak the 'language of personality'... by identifying and conveying those individual characteristics that are most appealing at a certain time to a particular constituency," note Gian Caprara and Philip Zimbardo. They found that voters select politicians whose traits match their own personality. ...

Perhaps the most important interaction in the world today, however, is that between antagonism and populism. The core feature of populism is an anti-establishment message and a focus on the central importance of the people. The anti-establishment message portrays the political elite as corrupt and evil, and disinterested in the interests of "the pure people." According to John Judis and Ruy Teixeira, the essential divide among populists is "the people versus the powerful."

In a recent series of studies, political communication professor Bert Bakker and his colleagues conducted the largest and most systematic investigation into the question: What happens when antagonistic citizens receive an anti-establishment message? They found strong support for the notion that the anti-establishment message of populists resonates the most with highly antagonistic people. This finding was confirmed in seven countries across three different continents. Antagonism predicted support for populists for both right-wing (Trump, UKIP, Danish People's Party, Party for Freedom, SVP) and left-wing populists(Podemos, Chavez).

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/the-personality-trait-that-is-ripping-america-and-the-world-apart/

[Aquaria]

113. Venn Diagram

He's created a a nativism-lite class-warfare movement, an alternative to Trump's hard-line nativist authoritarian one, for instance. Agreeing to serve AA issues would offend many of the socially conservative-leaning bros he needs for his revolution, and even more of them he hoped to draw away from Trump. He made his choice.

I would love to see the Venn Diagram between BS supporters and those who were Ron Paul supporters back in 2008. I have a feeling it would look very much like this:

[dawg day]

121. People vs powerful... and yet they go for Trump and GOP

Populism is always exploited by the powerful. Always. It's the stupidest political movement.

[Hortensis]

123. Boy, did you say it! Leaders of almost any ideology,

including secret, can harness populist resentments.

Of course remembering how the Kochs hired agents to secretly bring together, fund and direct the growing RW resentments -- resentments against them, against the political agents the wealthy had used to take over the GOP, against "the establishment"!-- as the Tea Party and turn it on Democrats and not-so-crazy conservatives.

Those fool-tools served their enemies well until they believed the GOP's anti-spending rhetoric and got so full of themselves that they tried to turn off the spigot on the Republican wealth transfer. Then the spigot was turned off on them. Movement cancelled.

Would have thought it couldn't get more stupid than that, but then they found Trump. A disordered, astonishingly incompetent billionaire literally without capacity for any ideology beyond "me."

Meanwhile, on the populist left most are also perfectly comfortable with having no real idea where their current leader -- who does appear to have his own questionable relationship with reality -- wants to take them. And the well-meaning followers, drawn to high-minded ideals rather than destruction, have no idea that their movement is dominated by people who are very different from them, with very different drives. When all claims and promises from the stump collide with reality on examination, it's reality that's denied.

[onetexan]

69. WOW! I've missed alot the past few hours and need to watch the replay of his presser

but i've said this before: Bernie somehow thinks he is entitled to be the nomine. How he came to arrive at that is beyond me. What's worse is he blames others for his own shortcomings. He's continuing to run for very selfish reasons so it's obvious he's doing this, not for the country, but only for himself. Sounds eerily familiar to the orange guy doesn't it?

[spooky3]

43. and at women, and at people over age 40, who consistently support

candidates OTHER than Sanders.

[HarlanPepper]

45. Yep

Apparently young people who can't be bothered to show up to vote for him are given a pass.

[spooky3]

47. It will be interesting to see what happens after next Tuesday. nt

[Thekaspervote]

64. Yet he's the one that says Joe doesn't connect...sure

[Cha]

79. I bet they're impressed.. I know

I am

[NYC Liberal]

2. A stunt for free airtime.

[Todd79]

3. He's going full revolution

I was saying I had no problem with him staying in, but now he’s going full Che even namechecking communist China.

[beachbumbob]

5. sanders needs a welfare check to see if he has all his marbles, he sounds nuts, more than usual

[OnDoutside]

12. Ah don't go there, Bob. We were all giving out about the Berners throwing that crap at Joe.

[beachbumbob]

13. if you didn't know who sanders was, and listen to 10 minuted of his whining, what do you think

the conclusion should be?

[OnDoutside]

17. He probably wrote that himself, which means it was badly put together. The same old touch points

that has seen him through many years.

[Orrex]

53. He often falters when speaking extemporaneously

Supporters praise him for it because they insist that it proves he's genuine, but in fact it makes him look genuinely amateurish and petty, especially when he grumbles about softball questions lobbed by gentle NPR commentators or votes that he imagines he deserves.

Kind of exemplifies why Trump hoped to face him in the general election.

[ehrnst]

122. There was some Sirota in there.

[dawg day]

27. Oh, he was probably whining like that when he was 40. When he was 20.

That's a personality trait, not a sign of aging.

[PatSeg]

6. That is really disturbing

I was hoping, he could exit with integrity and dignity. Enough of the finger-pointing and blaming others.

[CatMor]

7. He's beginning to sound like another delusional trump.

[katmondoo]

11. I have been calling him Trump light for quite a while. He is living up to the name.

[leftieNanner]

39. I just posted this question on another thread

Any chance there is some Russian kompromat on him? I know, it's full-on conspiracy theory, but I just wonder about his insistence that he must continue the race and his determination to burn down the Democratic party in the process.

[johnnyfins]

44. It would not surprise me at all

After the river of garbage we have seen over the last three+ years.

[murielm99]

61. I have always thought there was kompromat.

Maybe more than that. If I say anything else about my theory, this post will be removed.

[JackSabbath]

112. The "honeymoon" in the USSR

When any westerner visited the Soviet Union they were assigned handlers who followed their every move and recorded/videotaped their private conversations with discrete devices. There's probably a mountain of kompromat on Sanders.

[RockRaven]

8. You know what doesn't get people to vote for you? Scolding them about not voting for you.

You aren't entitled to anyone's vote. You have to earn it. By how you behave and what you say. This is the opposite of earning it.

[smb]

28. Maybe He Ought To Scold His Young "Revolutionaries"...

...who couldn't be bothered to drag their butts to the polls.

[redstatebluegirl]

31. Or heaven forbid, wait in line for something, anything.

[Sloumeau]

9. To say that Bernie is a sore loser seems a bit of an understatement. :) nt

[SKKY]

10. Oh, wait, so is Bernie moderating the debate on Sunday?

[Pachamama]

16. +100000

[brush]

24. Why does he think he's such a great debator? All he's gonna do is rattle off stump speech lines...

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like he just did on that self-serving TV speech.

Fasten your seat belts, he's in for the duration of the campaign.

Megalomania is a sad thing.

[wiley]

41. Bernie has lost it. The race, that is. Now he's attacking Blacks and Women?

Why should we put up with that?

[Aquaria]

114. NOW he's attacking them?

I must have imagined all of this from his prior run:

Women campaign works paid less, treated worse, for which he apologized--but took it back with an excuse of being so busy during the campaign, for which he did ZERO, until the NYT called him out on it. In 2019:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-sexism.html

Calling Hillary's criticism of his gun-control stances, "shouting," which is rich coming from a putz whose vocal tone always seems set at pissed-off:

https://www.npr.org/2015/11/01/453663625/is-it-fair-to-accuse-bernie-sanders-of-sexism

Or how about this demeaning remark made by his campaign--with nary an apology from BS--about Hillary's "role" in the future if BS (kill me now) got elected, that she might--MIGHT--make a good VP, I guess if she were a good girl, shut up and stepped aside for the "good" of white male privilege:

Sexism charges came up again when Sanders' campaign director said, when asked if they would consider Hillary Clinton for vice president: "Look, she'd make a great vice president. We're willing to give her more credit than Obama did. We're willing to consider her for vice president. We'll give her serious consideration. We'll even interview her."

Gee, how very fucking nice. They'd "even" interview her! The WOMAN who was kicking his ass all over the place in the primaries.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/03/opinions/kohn-bernie-sanders-sexism/index.html

Or how about this sneaky sexist jab at Hillary in April of 2016:

When CNN’s Jake Tapper asked him about the increasingly aggressive rhetoric between Sanders and Hillary Clinton, Weaver averred that his campaign was prepared to play hardball. He then sounded a warning to the former secretary of State and her supporters, suggesting that they not get too critical of Sanders or his supporters. “Don’t destroy the Democratic Party to satisfy the secretary’s ambitions to become president of the United States,” Weaver said.

It was a small comment, in every sense. A throwaway bit of nastiness coming from a campaign manager in the late stages of a long and hotly contested primary battle. But the line, which overtly cast Clinton’s political ambition as a destructive force and framed her famous drive and tenacity as unappealing, malevolent traits, played on long-standing assumptions about how ambition — a quality that is required for powerful men and admired in them — looks far less attractive on their female counterparts, and especially on their female competitors.

Weaver’s language made explicit a message that has, in more inchoate form, been churning through the Sanders campaign’s messaging in recent weeks. As Sanders’s staffers spin the story of how they got to this point in the race — with a candidate whose success has been unexpected and thrilling, especially with young Democrats and independents, but who has failed to win over voters of color and older voters, and remains badly behind his tough opponent by nearly every metric — they seem to have been working on a new framing of Hillary, one that relies on old biases about how we prefer women to conduct themselves and how little we like those who flout those preferences.

https://www.thecut.com/2016/04/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-tries-too-hard-ambitious.html

Or how about this tone-deaf-beyond-belief response to a young Hispanic woman aspiring to public service:

Bernie Sanders says that just being a woman isn't enough to get you elected.

Sanders was speaking to supporters in Boston Sunday when he was asked how a woman could become the second Latina senator in history.

"It's not good enough for somebody to say 'hey I'm a Latina vote for me' that is not good enough. I have to know whether that Latina is going to stand up with the working class of this country and is going to take on big money interests," Sanders said.

"It is not good enough for somebody to say, 'I'm a woman, vote for me.' No That is not good enough," the Vermont senator continued. "What we need is a woman who has the guts to stand up to Wall Street, to the insurance companies, to the drug companies, to the fossil fuel industries."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/21/sanders-identity-politics/94221972/

And let's not forget the thousands of times he screeched about "identity politics," which has always been code for, "You women and minorities need to shut up--JUST SHUT UP--and let us hoary white men decide what's best for you."

But if you want an example of him doing it, then here's a double-down on the filth that spewed out of his stupid piehole to that young Latina:

In November 2016, after Donald Trump was elected president, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont — who lost the Democratic nomination to Hillary Clinton — predicted that Democrats were headed for some soul-searching. "One of the struggles that you’re going to be seeing in the Democratic Party is whether we go beyond identity politics,” Sanders said. “It is not good enough for someone to say, 'I'm a woman! Vote for me!’ No, that's not good enough.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/02/04/identity-politics-trump-julian-castro-stacey-abrams-beto-orourke-column/2733935002/

There are more examples of him blathering this bigoted crap. MUCH MORE.

[Cha]

90. What?!

[SKKY]

94. Bernie ended his tirade this morning with...

...”I’m gonna ask Joe Biden this...”. “I’m gonna ask Joe Biden that...”. Like, 20 questions he’s gonna ask. Hence my question.

[Cha]

95. Great question! Biden needs to Go Full on GE

[SKKY]

96. Absolutely! Just stay above the fray and don't get sucked in...

...I’m actually kinda glad BS is staying in, at least through the debate. It will let JB work on magnifying the contrast.

[Pachamama]

14. Whining and complaining about Coters voting wrong

No Bernie, we didn’t....

My 20 yr old daughter at Berkeley voted for Biden - is Bernie’s explanation she just did it reluctantly because she thinks Biden is the one to beat Trump?

That would make one think that he, Bernie Sanders is stating he can’t beat Trump.

Or is he saying she is wrong and doesn’t know what she is doing?

I would say she, we, who are voting Biden know EXACTLY what we are doing.

We are not wrong Bernie. You are.

[sop]

15. "Joe, what're you gonna do about...?"

It's become clear to anyone who understands our current political system that these policy prescriptions will not be passed by a McConnell-controlled senate, and cannot be enacted by presidential order. Bernie should focus on getting his followers to flip the Senate, not asking Biden these questions.

[brush]

25. Yes, 'cause he's not winning the nomination. It's getting sad that he can't accept that it's over.

[treestar]

82. I wonder does he have a similar view to Dotard that

the President can do anything? He's in the Senate, he should know not.

[Aquaria]

115. Especially given how little he's managed to accomplish in the Senate himself

For someone so self-serving, he certainly has zero concept of self-reflection.

[Sunsky]

18. What?

I'm glad that I turned off the tv. I lasted about a minute just to confirm my thoughts on Sanders.

[honest.abe]

19. Now who is it that might have mental decline issues??

[democrattotheend]

20. Did we watch the same press conference?

I thought he was much more conciliatory than he's been. Focused his fire on Trump, kept the focus on the issues, didn't really attack Biden at all. Certainly no personal attacks. CNN commentators seemed to think so too.

[Demsrule86]

22. No he wasn't and he should be primaryed in 2024...he risks re-electing Trump...unforgiveable.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

65. Dumb question: How do you "primary" an Independent?

Is "Independent" an organized political party?

[Demsrule86]

75. He is allowed to run as a Democrat...and then switches back to indie...don't allow it.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

77. That's a strange dance, but if the people of Vermont keep voting for him, ...

... then it works for him.

His primary opponent in 2018 didn't generate many votes.

[Demsrule86]

87. He is allowed to run in the Democratic primary ...don't let him.

[MasonDreams]

84. Don't allow Bernie? Do allow Bloomberg?

94% of the "throw them against a wall" victims were POC. This policy was changed only by a federal court ruling the policy Unconstitutional. Bloomberg wasn't a Democrat when the Cavanaugh "confirmation" happened. I believe Thomas Jefferson's political party should aspire to loftier ideals.

I am 100% behind restoring the soul of the Nation. I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love.

Bernie will not split the Party by running outside the Party like Perot and Nader. I think he has helped the Democratic Party and continues to do so. And I'm not the only one. I like many of his policies, his political philosophy in general, and I must not be the only one because he has around 700 delegates at this point.

And you know, he tried to recruit Warren to run in 2016, she wouldn't so he did. He's not the opponent trump is.

[R B Garr]

23. He was dictating his unilateral interpretations of why people voted against

him and what was wrong with their votes. He was attacking my vote. He was just downright delusional about the impact black voters have had on him. He is not even trying to be reality based. Maybe people rejected socialism, maybe people didn't want to vote for someone who had a heart attack, etc. But he thinks people voted wrong, so that entitles him to scold us.

[democrattotheend]

30. I feel like my vote is under attack every day here at DU

From those who don't believe I have the right to cast it and have it matter. Who think we need to "shut this puppy down" and short circuit the will of at least half the voters by coronating a nominee before we get the chance to vote.

Maybe you're right about why some people are not voting for Bernie, but that's not what the exit polls show. The exit polls in every state showed that a plurality or majority of people agreed with Bernie on key issues, but that people were choosing their candidate based on who they thought could beat Trump rather than who agreed with them most on the issues. Find me a single state where "agrees with you on the issues" didn't beat out "can beat Trump."

[R B Garr]

32. Actually, I can't even articulate here why I didn't vote for Bernie because of "rules"

The fact of the matter is that I didn't, along with the majority of actual voters who decide these things. He doesn't get to usurp and browbeat people and force his contrived talking points on people after they reject him via the election process that is in place.

His comments were extremely insulting to black voters and just downright disturbing. We haven't even gotten into the choice they have to vote for Obama's VP, for instance, as yet one more reason they are rejecting Bernie. He completely dissed them by saying his contrived talking points are more important than their efforts to pick a candidate. That is supremely arrogant.

His forced issues and talking points do not supersede actual votes. It's really disturbing at this point.

[democrattotheend]

33. I didn't take his comments that way at all

But I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[R B Garr]

34. Yes, but it was pretty clear he was manipulating data as an excuse

to continue, as if an actual election is not data enough.

I saw those so-called exit polls, and they looked to be about 30% support, which means those were all his supporters. The rest of us voters spoke, and not just his supporters. It was a sound defeat.

[ehrnst]

55. Who EVER said that you "don't have a right to cast your vote and have it matter?"

NO ONE is guaranteed that their favorite candidate won't drop out before their primary... why should Sanders supporters be entitled to more than those who were supporting Kamala, Booker, Buttigieg, or Klobuchar?



And what about the Sanders voters who were demanding that Warren quit and endorse Sanders from the day she announced?

[Thekaspervote]

68. This!!

[treestar]

83. those posts are ridiculous - there was one demanding

we all get behind Bernie after Nevada.

[democrattotheend]

89. And I said something similar to Bernie supporters who were saying that after Nevada

I took them to task for demanding other candidates drop out. I am pretty sure I recall scolding fellow Obama supporters for the same thing in 2008 when they demanded Hillary drop out. IMO it's never ok for supporters of another candidate, and especially for high profile people like Carville and Clyburn, to call for ending the primaries before everyone gets the chance to vote.

[Codeine]

86. Lots of us don't get to cast our vote

for our preferred candidate. I didn’t have a “right” to cast my vote for Kamala Harris, and I wasn’t stripped of that “right” when she dropped.

That’s an utterly vapid argument that fundamentally misrepresents the process of a primary election.

[Demsrule86]

98. And he still lost badly. You all should have picked a better candidate...if the message won than

It must be the messenger who lost. Warren was 100 times better.

[Doreen]

21. Even if I had been his supporter that there would have turned me to Biden.

So now he is doing the same thing as this administration which is to get people to not vote or only vote for them.

He is doing the same thing he did when he lost the last primary but this time he is doing it before he officially loses.

I am ashamed I voted for him in the last primary.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

35. What good will posts like this do?

Our side has won! Be happy and make a plans on how to ensure Joe gets elected in November.

If you need something to get stressed out about there’s plenty of real trouble in relation to corona virus.

[R B Garr]

36. HA, that's funny. I should direct you to James Carville's comments

he said last night about Bernie. It's time to respect voters. Voters have spoken. That's why we have elections.

Who said I wasn't happy??

[Sucha NastyWoman]

46. Why do I care what Carville says?

He’s married to Mary Matlin so why does his judgement matter to me? They only put him on The tv machine to stir stuff up, but in my judgement he’s just a Roy Cohn/Lee Atwater wanna be anyway. His type of campaigning should be history. He’s an old fart that lives in terror of our party becoming even slightly more progressive.

You’re giving him way too much credit.

Are we really going to spend the next eight months paying any attention to what Bernie says. He may not be ready to concede out of respect for his followers but he knows, they know, everyone knows it’s over. Even if he says controversial stuff, he’s just not relevant any more, unless you make him so.

The fat lady has sung. Do you not know this?


I

[bronxiteforever]

60. "James Carville is a Roy Cohn wannabe"

WTF.

[Thekaspervote]

70. That is a stretch!!

[bronxiteforever]

73. +1

[R B Garr]

88. People pay attention to elections, which is what we are

talking about. That’s why we are discussing Bernie’s denial of his defeat. He had a press conference today, which is what we are discussing. I found it quite disturbing, to say the least.

Speaking of Carville’s wife, there is no need to give her ilk and other Republicans ammunition to use against our party and nominee, which has been proven to happen through Sanders continued attacks (see the Mueller report).

I really like Carville. He is often extremely effective and accurate. Didn’t he come up with “it’s the economy, stupid” — one of the best political lines ever. Regardless of personal feelings about Carville, he was right: the voters spoke, time to respect the voters.

[redstateblues]

110. Love me some Carville!

[Cha]

81. I appreciate her OP.. there's no reason to

sweep under the rug what BS said in his presser.

[33taw]

37. Time to pass the torch and graciously step aside.

His message is starting g to get lost in self promotion.

[Buzz cook]

38. The OPs interpretation

Is wildly different from my own.

I wonder if he'd talking about the same speech or even the same person.

[William769]

40. That's why he's not viable in Mississippi

[bucolic_frolic]

42. Yes, Populists are afraid of democracy breaking out where people think for themselves

[Jose Garcia]

48. The Simpsons has a meme for this

[R Merm]

49. Sounds like something tRump would say

[Cha]

97. +1

[lillypaddle]

50. Damn, at first I thought you were talking about trump

[comradebillyboy]

51. It's not whether you win or lose, it's how

you place the blame.

[Lanius]

52. As a nonwhite progressive people like Sanders offend me.

I’m tired of white liberals/progressives being condescending to minorities when they don’t get their way.

But the worst are the privileged white progressives (hi, Krystal Ball) who say they aren’t going to vote for Biden in the general election if Sanders loses the primary. These are purists who don’t care about anyone else but themselves even though they profess otherwise.

Warren was my original choice. But if Biden is the party’s nominee he’ll have my vote. Anyone but Trump!

[Aquaria]

116. THIS. So much THIS.

I have HAD it with the purity loons who think they're oh-so-much-more liberal or "progressive" than the rest of us, while being willing to throw women, minorities, LGBTs, the poor, the elderly, the sick, the disabled, workers, education, the environment and more under the bus in the name of their oh-so-precious "conscience."

You're no liberal if you're willing to screw over the most vulnerable among us by voting against the ONLY party that has a fighting chance to protect them, all so that you can "feel good" about yourself and screw everyone else. You may not like it that said party isn't perfect--and never has been or will be, but you're delusional if you think anyone else has a fighting chance to protect those who most need it.

If that's your idea of a conscience, you're not a liberal.

You're the fricking ENEMY.

[Thekaspervote]

72. "Self vetting!"

[ehrnst]

56. I have to wonder if his staff made sure that he didn't speak last night

because he seems very angry and bitter now.

I have to wonder how he was feeling when the loss was even more fresh.

[Submariner]

57. Leahy and Schumer need to get this guys head screwed on straight

[NYMinute]

105. ++++++

[emiami]

58. Reality

I think many people are misunderstanding Bernie Sanders. He is just trying to get across the purpose behind the campaign he is fronting is the campaign supported solely by individual small donations with the most progressive and innovative platform to sustain and invigorate our democratic form of government. He is simply trying to convince you as a human being to vote in your own best interest. This is what democratic socialism is. It is for you, it is for us. Think libraries ,infrasructure, firehouses, healthcare, education, environmental protection, etc., etc. He wants to represent investment in us by us and for us and make the changes you want to make a reality. Also, I have seen no evidence that Bernie Bros or any of the nasty bullying being attributed to him are actually associated with him or are even real .This is propaganda and too many people are naively influenced by it. I will vote for whomever wins the primary election.

[dansolo]

85. Do you think we don't know this?

Sanders has been running for the past five years. You are right about one thing, he is now showing the real purpose of his running. It isn't about his policies. It is entirely about him.

If you want to talk about voting for your own best interest, how does not voting against Trump help anyone who claims to be a progressive?

[ehrnst]

119. Maybe you're unaware that you're on a board full of Democrats.

Democrats were promoting these issues since before Bernie got elected mayor..

[betsuni]

120. Don't know why this is a mystery.

[NurseJackie]

59. And THIS is why he's losing. THIS is why people reject him.

Wrong man. Wrong message. Wrong time. Wrong attitude. Wrong demeanor. Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Who does he think he is, anyway? He's in no position to be making demands. He's behind. He's losing. He's got NO path forward and he knows it.

He was HUMILIATED last night and the beatings will continue. The voters have clearly had enough of Bernie Sanders.

[radius777]

62. Bernie believes moderates are really leftists just voting for electability.

It doesn't enter his mind that most Dem voters are ideologically center-left voters who believe in safety-net capitalism (ie, what the party has always stood for) and who reject socialism or the nationalization of healthcare. Polls showing voters support for 'Medicare for all' imo don't tell us much since many voters don't understand that it would abolish private healthcare, and think it its the same as 'Medicare for all who want it' (ie, the public option).

Also, many young voters under 30 are voting for 'anti-establishment' not neccessarily leftwing or progressive ideals or whatever. Many of them liked Ron Paul before Bernie came along.

This is not to discount the reality that there is a generational issue that Dems need to address, but it's not exactly how Bernie lays it out.

[emiami]

63. Reality

I find it really disappointing how many people on this site don't even seem to understand what democracy is. A lot of you seem to be as cultish as the republican party.

[HarlanPepper]

66. Irony is dead.

[Cha]

99. As a doornail.

[Thekaspervote]

76. The only cult that's showing it's hand and against democracy is the sanders group

Cult: a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.

In the past 2 weeks several really good candidates have dropped out. NONE of those candidates or their campaigns threw the kind of disgusting shade sanders and his campaign has.

And, the candidates and their supporters that dropped easily went from sincere support of one to another.

[NNadir]

91. Well, since you know what Democracy is and we don't, perhaps you can explain it to us.

I always thought it was about counting votes, and if someone gets more votes than someone else then that person wins the election (except when the Electoral College determines things.)

Please explain your concept of what a Democracy is and what exactly it is that we don't get?

Does it involve declaring the winner after the Iowa Caucuses? How about giving New Hampshire 1,000,000 electoral votes and South Carolina, Michigan, and states that don't vote the way we like 1 each.

Please explain.

I'm very curious.

[LongtimeAZDem]

93. We not only understand what democracy is, we understand math too

[Cha]

102. Thank you!

[tritsofme]

100. You win the award for silliest post on DU.

I mean...did you really type it with a straight face? Be honest.

[Meadowoak]

101. This site has become hateful to anyone that doesn't agree with them.

[Aquaria]

117. Dishonest whining gets you nowhere

n/t

[PJMcK]

104. Kindly enlighten us what democracy is

Your perspective is appreciated.

[NYMinute]

106. He is finished

Bernie should be humble and say he accepts the voters' choice. That is what normal politicians do and they congratulate the winner.

[Orrex]

108. I look forward to many years of your positive contributions on DU

[mwb970]

67. IS Bernie our trump?

[NYMinute]

107. Isn't it a classic example of a rhetorical question?

[DIVINEprividence]

71. Doesn't matter. Sanders lost.

Let’s keep the eye on the prize. Trump is going down.

[BidenBacker]

78. Bernie ain't dropping out yet

because he still needs a few more chapters worth of material for his next multimillion dollar book deal...

"How I Got Screwed in 2020 by the Black Deep State Blue Cabal Establishment".

To be published shortly before his 2024 run.

[Aquaria]

118. More like he has more campaign cash to rake in

How else will he get to keep up those three houses he owns?

[fleabiscuit]

92. A free online course; Shark jumping 101 NT

[NYMinute]

103. The dangers of living in an echo chamber

[Cha]

109. The best thing for Climate Change and to

help our future generations is to get rid of trump and Joe Biden can do that.

Mahalo for this, RB!

[dalton99a]

111. Democracy is Bernie. Anything not Bernie is not democracy. In fact anything not Bernie is Fake News