Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(70,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(60,074 posts)and one head of household could support the entire family on their income.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(14,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(60,074 posts)for the privilege of having your money.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(14,313 posts)Now, if you overdraw by even one dollar at some banks, it'll cost you $36.00 overdraft fee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)Many sets of long stemmed glasses.
We won 2 black and white TVs. The first winning ticket they were all smiles and Congratulations, the next week they just handed it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,245 posts)Elizabeth Warren on Fox Town halls:
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(43,203 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)to create an ebullient, massive support atmosphere with leading questions so Sanders can give his one stump speech several times as an answer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)Their rallies in Cleveland. That is where the 3 cases are.
I think they should have Town Halls on TV to replace the rallies. Trump could do the same. Snicker!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LuvLoogie
(7,536 posts)Imagine if Bernie's supporters had seen the obvious and supported Liz instead.
Now I realize many would say the same about Biden supporters, but it is turning out that Bernie was just the wrong person to wield their motives.
My first impression of Liz had me imagining her wielding a baseball bat at the end of days.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Butterflylady
(3,964 posts)They would be fools not to. But it's not realistic at this time. I still take a lot time. He's making it sound like elect me and it's over and done. They may like it but that doesn't mean thy believe him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(60,074 posts)we have been dealing with this for over a 100 years.
I wonder when it will be "realistic" as the rest of the advanced world has already passed us on this issue?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But we get it... it's fun to pretend there's a magical panache that will allow all our national failures to be overcome in the space of one election-- sacred cows tend to convince us of such.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(50,734 posts)Yet they managed to implement positive programs in 100 year time while the "wealthiest" nation on the planet lags.
Time for excuses is over.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,263 posts)Time for a new approach, wouldn't you say? One that doesn't acquiesce at the first 'no' or give away the farm for a toothpick? Incrementalism has brought us to this cliff; continuing in this vein may well push us over.
It took great courage and strength to create SS. Same for Medicare. It wasn't all nice-nice-rosy-happy. If the leaders back then had adopted today's timidity, they never would have succeeded.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(116,572 posts)show the same timidity as is present now. They knew what could be accomplished and what couldn't. I applaud their pragmatism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I guess you've never read about LBJ's "Johnson Treatment." There was nothing timid about it. It was "pragmatic" from the standpoint that he used it very effectively to get reluctant senators to do his bidding, including pass Medicare. He wasn't afraid to try, he jumped right in and arm twisted his way to success.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ce964a5f076e610e252c0fca8586a036-c
Our leaders today could take a lesson.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(116,572 posts)Really?
LBJ did accomplish quite a bit, but did he try to get universal health care? No, he knew that wasn't possible so he used his influence to achieve what we take for granted now. He didn't attempt to revamp the entire economy, but he took steps to provide assistance to those that were most vulnerable.
LBJ did have a program to create a Great Society, but he certainly was not an advocate for a Great Socialist Society. LBJ didn't promise free college tuition because he knew it wouldn't pass. LBJ didn't propose that government be involved in every sector of the economy. LBJ did not argue that the energy industry be nationalized like Bernie did in his youth.
And in 1968, LBJ did show that he was timid. He was grounded in reality and knew that if he ran for reelection that he would be defeated so in that respect he was timid. He knew that his advocacy for civil rights made him a pariah among voters in the South. Yes, I'll admit that LBJ accomplished a lot but he also sacrificed a lot simultaneously.
Sanders has advocated changes that most of America is uncomfortable to support. If he moderated his views he might have built a broader coalition that supported him. However, his all-or-nothing approach has led to the outcome where he will get almost nothing. No significant legislative achievements in three decades in Congress Some states that increased their minimum wage, but no increase in the minimum wage at the federal level. And in another fifty years, he will get the same recognition as Eugene Debs--a few people will know who he is if they play Trivial Pursuit or Jeopardy, but the bulk of the population won't remember him at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)It is not a random town hall -- it is theater.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rockfordfile
(8,730 posts)That one guy wearing a suit/purple shirt to the right seems like a right-wing pos
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
iwannaknow
(213 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(60,074 posts)of American workers as just replaceable cogs in a machine.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nolabear
(43,203 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(60,074 posts)in controlling the narrative based on fear, doubt, division, obfuscation and omission.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(116,572 posts)I guess that will be as good of an excuse as any other after the results come in tonight. Isn't the real reason the voters didn't like the candidate or his policies?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(60,074 posts)a candidate that beats Trump or one that agrees with you on the issues is a corporate media conglomerate construct meant to create a psychological division as if the one couldn't be the same.
It's like asking someone would you rather kiss your spouse or for them not be beaten up by someone?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)Lions in Serengeti agreed to accept deer and wildebeest as the preferred diet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pampango
(24,692 posts)Stop dreaming, Americans. We have a huge military to fund and taxes to cut for the rich.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided