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Raine1967

(11,607 posts)
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:31 PM May 2015

Is NYC Mayor DeBlasio being coy?

I have a hard time believing he doesn't know about O'Malley.

Personally, I take the NY Observer with a grain of salt. The editorial team is led by Ken Kurson (works as a political consultant and co author with Rudy Guiliani) and Rex Reed, a film critic…

I have seen a number of conservative outlets pushing the meme that O'MAlley is a toss away candidates, and I find that interesting from a political POV.

But back to the topic: DeBlasio and his saying he just doesn't know who and what O'Malley is about: http://observer.com/2015/05/i-dont-know-him-bill-de-blasio-cool-on-presidential-contender-martin-omalley/

Mr. O’Malley, formerly the governor of Maryland, is expected to announce his presidential bid on Saturday and is viewed as an upstart opponent to Ms. Clinton, the establishment choice who is widely expected to be the party’s nominee. Ms. Clinton also faces a challenge from Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, an Independent who caucuses with Democrats and identifies as a socialist, about whom Mr. de Blasio has spoken warmly. (snip)

The mayor made waves by withholding his endorsement from Ms. Clinton, whose 2000 Senate campaign he ran. He has insisted he simply wants to hear her vision, and the vision of other candidates, on income inequality. Some have posited that withholding the endorsement and delivering his stamp of approval later on will be better political theater for both Mr. de Blasio and Ms. Clinton. Despite his hedging on endorsing Ms. Clinton, Mr. de Blasio’s seeming disinterest in the man set to be perhaps her best-equipped rival may bolster the theory that the mayor endorsing Ms. Clinton is simply a fait accompli. (snip)

Other city elected officials have been more open to Mr. O’Malley’s pitch—Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito met last fall with Mr. O’Malley, the New York Times recently reported.

While the mayor professed to know little about Mr. O’Malley, the former governor is getting a boost from some former de Blasio boosters, including Lis Smith, Mr. de Blasio’s general election campaign and transition spokeswoman. He’s also being advised by Bill Hyers, Mr. de Blasio’s campaign manager.


I think it is all fine that no one has made any endorsements, FTR. We are pretty far out from real primary season. That reporters are asking these questions is very interesting. I personally don't believe for a minute that DeBlasio doesn't know him or his work well.


Also, this was interesting:
Mr. de Blasio said he’d like to hear Mr. O’Malley’s thoughts on income inequality, an issue Mr. de Blasio has taken on the road in recent months. Mr. O’Malley has recently made a point of vehemently opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade pact backed by President Barack Obama and panned by liberals and progressives—including the group Mr. de Blasio convened in Washington this month. Ms. Clinton, meanwhile, has been hedged on the trade deal.


IS he ignoring what O'Malley has consistently said about income equality? Add your own articles that show where the man has made it clear about how he wants to change income equality… here is just one:

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/13/a_lot_of_us_are_disappointed_and_angry_martin_o’malley_makes_his_case_to_salon/

O’Malley clearly believes income inequality and declining wages will be the defining issues of the 2016 campaign, and he’s adopted a platform that echoes a lot of Warren’s so-called 8-point plan to grow the middle class, distilled from her “Raising Wages” speech to the AFL-CIO in January.

In addition to backing the restoration of Glass Steagall and hiking the capital gains tax, he supports a higher minimum wage and overtime-pay threshold, greater collective bargaining rights, expanding Social Security and more infrastructure spending. He can still sound like a technocrat at times, telling me he doesn’t like to talk about things in terms of “left and right” but “forward and backward.”


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Is NYC Mayor DeBlasio being coy? (Original Post) Raine1967 May 2015 OP
K & R Koinos May 2015 #1
NY Daily News has weighed in on this as well: Raine1967 May 2015 #2
I expect the Mayor will end up endorsing Hillary in the end. askew May 2015 #3
Feels like posturing to me too, askew, elleng May 2015 #6
My Take on This Koinos May 2015 #4
I think you are exactly right. His team doesn't seem bothered by askew May 2015 #5
Saturday Morning, No Less Koinos May 2015 #7
That's a really good take on it. Raine1967 May 2015 #13
I like the part where it says Andy823 May 2015 #8
He is pragmatic, rather than ideological. Koinos May 2015 #9
Exactly, pragmatic! elleng May 2015 #10
We need a president who knows how to get things done. Koinos May 2015 #11
Quite right! elleng May 2015 #12
Here's our answer: Koinos Jun 2015 #14
That is really interesting. Raine1967 Jun 2015 #15

Raine1967

(11,607 posts)
2. NY Daily News has weighed in on this as well:
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:58 PM
May 2015
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/mayor-de-blasio-eyes-hillary-clinton-2016-blog-entry-1.2236248

"I don’t know him and I don’t know his work that well. I certainly hope he will address the question of income inequality and provide a very vigorous vision for addressing income inequality in this country," de Blasio said.

He also said he appreciated O'Malley's opposition to the President Obama-backed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, which de Blasio also opposes, but stressed he didn't know what his "vision" was.

The mayor dodged the question on whether he'd consider endorsing O'Malley - who like him is a Democrat - when he learned more, instead waxing on about Clinton.

"I am ... looking forward to the day when Hillary Clinton lays out her specific vision for addressing income inequality. I think what we’ve heard from her so far is very promising. I think her history on these issues is very powerful," he said.


ahh, politics… I have a feeling he is looking to see who is on board with his Contract with America. This is going to be interesting.

It's nice to see O'Malley getting attention in the NYC region!

askew

(1,464 posts)
3. I expect the Mayor will end up endorsing Hillary in the end.
Tue May 26, 2015, 04:00 PM
May 2015

This just seems like posturing to me. I don't expect O'Malley to get very many establishment endorsements. He'll do fine without them.

I am just hoping his kick-off speech goes smoothly and he can raise some decent money in his first week or so. I see Sanders' supporters upping their attacks on O'Malley online and worry that O'Malley started too late to get any real traction.

elleng

(135,864 posts)
6. Feels like posturing to me too, askew,
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:26 PM
May 2015

and I must say I'm disappointed. I've seen de Blasio as a strong member of the Dem party's field, we have a good future, imo, and hope(d) he'd take 'no trashing' positions as have O'Malley and Bernie.

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
4. My Take on This
Tue May 26, 2015, 04:30 PM
May 2015

It appears that Warren and de Blasio are working hard to turn Clinton into an anti-inequality "progressive." I do not think they believe O'Malley is a likely nominee, and they are pretty much ignoring him. They are placing all their bets on Clinton. De Blasio has national political ambitions as well.

This is going to be a very uphill climb for O'Malley. To some, his May 30th announcement may appear anti-climactic and a bit too late. One of the things that I like about O'Malley is the fact that none of this seems to bother him very much. He is the dark horse that few have bet on. But he is a very strong campaigner.

To everyone in the field: Do not underestimate O'Malley. He may be the long shot that just passed you by.

ETA: For what it's worth, I don't think Warren and de Blasio are taking Sanders very seriously either.

askew

(1,464 posts)
5. I think you are exactly right. His team doesn't seem bothered by
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:23 PM
May 2015

the negative spin from media or other Dems on O'Malley's chances, etc. They seem to know what they are doing. I just hope that they get some good press from his campaign announcement this Saturday. Sanders got a whole hour devoted to him on MSNBC. O'Malley won't get that with a Saturday announcement.

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
7. Saturday Morning, No Less
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:36 PM
May 2015

Last edited Thu May 28, 2015, 10:36 AM - Edit history (1)

I'm not sure how he will get much coverage at all on Saturday morning (10:00 AM). And it will be hard for people to get to Federal Hill Park that early, especially since parking is very limited in that immediate area.

We intend to go, but it will mean parking at a light rail station and taking the train from there. And then there is the commute to the light rail from where we live.

Many in the crowd will be curious locals (sympathetic and unsympathetic) who walk to the park.

I hope it works nonetheless.

Edited to Add: Parking notice from a recent email from the O'Malley PAC:

Parking will be available at 1215 E Fort Ave, Baltimore, MD 21230 and there will be a shuttle to the park. We're expecting a big turnout so make sure to get there early. Doors open at 8 AM and the band will start at 9.

Don’t let your friends and family miss out on this historic announcement. Make sure they RSVP at omalleyannouncement.com and share the event on Facebook and Twitter.


Andy823

(11,525 posts)
8. I like the part where it says
Tue May 26, 2015, 06:17 PM
May 2015

"...he doesn’t like to talk about things in terms of “left and right” but “forward and backward.”

That's a good point since it's a lot of those on the left seem to want to go backwards along with those on the right. Going forward should be the goal for the country, and anyone that wants to take us "backwards" is not doing what is best.

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
9. He is pragmatic, rather than ideological.
Tue May 26, 2015, 08:28 PM
May 2015

It is easy to imagine a wish list of ideals or goals, but it is much harder and more important to be able to map out the practical incremental steps for getting there.

Politicians often promise a lot of things, but O'Malley will lay out data and specific actions for making real improvements. It's what he did as governor of Maryland.

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
11. We need a president who knows how to get things done.
Tue May 26, 2015, 08:45 PM
May 2015

In other words, a person with successful executive experience.

I think that democrats, republicans, and independents all want that. They are tired of shouting matches about "values" that go nowhere. They want real changes that make a difference.

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
14. Here's our answer:
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jun 2015

NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio said Wednesday he will not attend Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign kickoff rally on Roosevelt Island Saturday.

Speaking to reporters Wednesday afternoon, de Blasio, a friend and former campaign manager for Hillary Clinton, confirmed earlier reports that he swill not attend the rally, since he is still “waiting to hear her larger vision to addressing income inequality.”

The progressive mayor also indicated he’s a big fan of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who’s challenging Hillary for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016. “I’ve always liked what I heard from Bernie Sanders,” de Blasio said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128012719

Raine1967

(11,607 posts)
15. That is really interesting.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jun 2015

Seriously, I would say that no one in this group could disagree with much of the things that Sander's has said. I would be disingenuous if I said I was not a fan of Sanders. That said, I don't vote for candidates based on being a fan. I support candidates.

I still think he's being coy, and I don't mind that at all. It's really early for endorsements from such high profile people as DeBlasio. His not attending the kick off is telling.

I will say this, this paragraph doesn't help Ms. Clinton.

Some of Clinton’s supporters were furious at de Blasio’s stinging of the Democratic frontrunner. “It strikes me as surreal and bizarre that de Blasio will be missing in action this Saturday when the presumptive candidate of his party has chosen to launch her candidacy in his city and host her campaign headquarters in his home borough,” a New York City-based operative close to the Clinton campaign was quoted as saying to Crains NY.
Insert O'Malley when they mention Clinton and Rawlings-Blake when they mention DeBlasio. (NYC and Baltimore for that matter)

Here is the Article the link is quoting. http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20150610/BLOGS04/150609865

"Each of the candidates is beginning to address these issues," he said on CBS's "Face the Nation" Sunday. "I'm waiting to hear a fuller vision from each on how we’ll actually tackle income inequality." Asked if that included Ms. Clinton, whom he has known for several decades and whose 2000 Senate campaign he managed, the mayor said, "Absolutely."

The Associated Press reported Wednesday that the mayor's press secretary said he would not attend.

When questioned about whether an invitation had been extended to Mr. de Blasio to Saturday's rally, a spokesman for Ms. Clinton's campaign said he had no information. Some supporters were perplexed by the mayor's behavior.

"It strikes me as surreal and bizarre that de Blasio will be missing in action this Saturday when the presumptive candidate of his party has chosen to launch her candidacy in his city and host her campaign headquarters in his home borough," said a New York City-based operative close to the Clinton campaign.

(snip)
Much of the mayor's waffling has to do with his own national ambitions, namely his 13-point Progressive Agenda and his plans to host a presidential debate on income inequality later this year. As Mr. de Blasio sees it, he has to withhold his endorsement in order to remain a credible, unattached and authoritative voice in the national debate surrounding the politics of poverty.


Thanks for this, Koinos!









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