Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Nanjeanne

(5,435 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:53 AM Mar 2019

In light of the outrage by some of Bernie's hires, this very long older article about CAP and

Neera Tandem is worth rereading.

I would have posted it in one of the gazillion threads in Dem Primary forum but the anti Sanders cavalry would just misread it and besides I’ve probably trashed most of those threads.

But rereading it this morning was really educational and boiled my blood all over again. Highly recommend if you’re strong enough.




?s=21
10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
In light of the outrage by some of Bernie's hires, this very long older article about CAP and (Original Post) Nanjeanne Mar 2019 OP
People come here to have a haven from that negativity Donkees Mar 2019 #1
I get discouraged often by reading DP sacto95834 Mar 2019 #8
Let's focus on the hope of the 2020 campaign, and be grateful that Bernie is still Donkees Mar 2019 #9
Thanks for posting. It's a reaffirmation for many of us. Snotcicles Mar 2019 #2
And nothing has changed. If you are foolish enough to watch MSNBC or CNN you will see Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #3
I have become quite adept at filtering. I'm glad you are part of DU. Snotcicles Mar 2019 #4
Ditto. But what I used to love was the ability to talk about policy and have respect Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #6
I miss that too. Snotcicles Mar 2019 #7
I feel your pain JonLP24 Mar 2019 #10
Thanks JonLP24 Mar 2019 #5

sacto95834

(393 posts)
8. I get discouraged often by reading DP
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:08 PM
Mar 2019

Some of the posters absolutely hate Bernie for reasons I'm not quite sure other than they seem to blame Bernie and his supporters for HRC's loss.

Believe me, nobody is more disappointed at having that vile creature in the White House. He has exceeded my expectations of how awful, mean and petty he can be.

Would HRC have made a better president? NO QUESTION. But it was her "job" to convince the public to vote for her. The campaign was hers to make and she had lots of money to do so. Bernie gave his support and did campaign speeches for her. Now it seems that wasn't enough. Again, it was her campaign and how she used or did not use Bernie in her campaign was her decision. He was willing and I recall him strongly urging everyone who would listen to vote for HRC over DT.

Obviously HRC was not successful in her campaign. I think it was in part to her past history and in part by the mistakes the campaign she ran. I'm rather disappointed HRC hasn't assumed full responsibility for her loss, but that's what it is. Just wish people would be mad/disappointed with the correct person. Rather some blame Bernie as he couldn't deliver his base.

All I can say is I voted for Bernie in the primary and then for HRC in the general. But I certainly understand why some of Bernie's base didn't vote for her. We were never made to feel welcomed. It seemed all HRC's campaign wanted was for the Bernie supports to vote for her and shut up. They didn't want to talk about the mistakes made in the primary and how it was so weighed in HRC's favor. All seemed to be true based on what party stalwart Donna Brazile later revealed. And I still feel this to today.

But I fully believe Democrats are the way to go. I will not hold the current candidates responsible for what happened in the 2016 primaries. I want the winning candidate to succeed and return the US to normalcy. What a fine group we have so far with Bernie leading the pack.

Donkees

(32,386 posts)
9. Let's focus on the hope of the 2020 campaign, and be grateful that Bernie is still
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 02:46 PM
Mar 2019

fighting for justice.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
2. Thanks for posting. It's a reaffirmation for many of us.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:09 AM
Mar 2019

Especially those who enthusiastically voted in 2016.

Nanjeanne

(5,435 posts)
3. And nothing has changed. If you are foolish enough to watch MSNBC or CNN you will see
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:17 AM
Mar 2019

The same old faces spouting the same things over and over that were completely wrong in 2016 and continue to be wrong now. Yet never face consequences. Neera, Maria Cardona, Joy, Capehart, Rendell. Hell McCaskill is an MSNBC pundit telling Dems what they have to do to win!

I watch Democracy Now for actual news and then research what I want to know for myself. It’s unfortunate that so many people have limited time and believe a panel of opinions is based on anything but their own bias.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
4. I have become quite adept at filtering. I'm glad you are part of DU.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:45 AM
Mar 2019

There aren't many free thinkers here anymore. The herd successfully managed to run them off.

Nanjeanne

(5,435 posts)
6. Ditto. But what I used to love was the ability to talk about policy and have respect
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:21 AM
Mar 2019

For a politician in one area and disagree with them in another. Unfortunately that’s all gone now. Which is why I post so infrequently and when I do, usually regret it

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
7. I miss that too.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 12:24 PM
Mar 2019

Antonio Porchia: ... A little candor never leaves me. It is what protects me.

It seems especially around primaries the number of trolls and DUer's with AKAs grows so much it's hard to trust any of it like we use too.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Bernie Sanders»In light of the outrage b...