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Related: About this forumPeripheral neuropathy
I live with this crap problem and no, its not getting any better unfortunately but it could be worse too, that is how I look at it.
I noted from the info. I received yesterday that the recommendation for peripheral neuropathy is to use a 1:1 mix of CBD to THC for the best results.
My question how do I know which is CBD to THC of 1:1? Would you be mixing two types 50/50 and then using it (I vaporize myself). I know you can buy these pricey sprays at $50+ a bottle and I'm not in much of a position to afford this route of administration as I was told you need about one large bottle a week.
Has anyone tried this? If so, I'd like to hear of any results that have been noted as I know I'm not the only one out there that suffers with peripheral neuropathy. I'm really glad to know that www.projectcbd.org (check this site out btw) is researching this!
Thanks for any ideas or help re: this issue.
mopinko
(71,816 posts)a dealer around here usually has that info, but they are a pretty sophisticated outfit.
they also often have oils, which, i think, are tested. they even include info on what symptoms it treats the best. so, pain, sleep, etc are part of the info.
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)They "have it all" so to speak. However when you query them in detail, they do not recommend anything. I guess they cannot being they are running a dispensary and are not doctors.
The cannabis doctor I go to is a bonafide M.D. and has a lot of info. but my gawd she talks so fast and dumps a load of info. on you in lightning speed fashion that it is hard for me to keep it straight.
She gave me a copy of O'Shaughnessy's paper which takes two years to write it seems. It is comprehensive but I didn't see peripheral neuropathy addressed in this most recent issue (unless I missed something).
Many diabetics suffer with peripheral neuropathy as well. I am not a diabetic and the culprit is M.S. so at least I know where it is coming from -- the nerves as I have rather severe nerve damage. Interestingly enough, there was info. about how having had multiple surgeries (as I have had) cause chronic pain due to scar tissue that has formed thus created nerve damage. I'd noted the pain from the surgeries in the past and was told it was in my head and that it was over. Well it is not "over", it is permanent. I quit taking pain medication for a bit to figure out where the pain level is at and the scars from all of the surgeries I've had hurt like all hell!
There are so many aspects to appropriate pain management. I understand that indica strains are best for pain and it seems to be the case best I can tell. I have some CBD buds that I have tried but I noted no real effect from them. Perhaps that spray (which I think is = Sativex is used by people with M.S. but it is not legal in the USA but is legal throughout the UK and the EU).
I wish they DEA would get off their reefer madness agenda and take a serious look at CBDs and how they can help people that suffer from severe intractable pain and opiate use. They might learn something don't you think?
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)There are other places to go and they may have more info. than the one I've been going to.
They are simply not providing enough info. to know what is useful for what condition and what is not.
Also, way too many people hanging outside the doorway trying to worm their way inside which is not allowed. There are lots of problems where I live with prop. 215 and who can have a card. Too many fakes out there and they spoil it nicely.
Now I have to provide them w/my ID and they copy it and keep it. As for the "card", they need that but don't seem to particularly care as to what your needs are.
I hope they can straighten things out a bit before Nov. when it comes up for full legalization!
Thank you.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)they have a cannabis blog with current strains and ratios.
medical use is legal in my state. i am unable to smoke or vape it or even injest it - i use a salve i make the old traditional way my grandmother taught me. i fill a quart jar half full of the plant material (everything, buds, stems, leaves, etc) into a jar, then fill it with olive oil or 1/2 olive and 1/2 avocado oil. cap tightly and let sit for 3-4 full moons. shake and invert jar every few days during this time.
then, strain into 1/2 pint jars. refrigerate one jar, freeze the rest.
for use/ to apply: use a clean spoon to remove a tablespoon of the oil or less onto the affected areas. if you do not like the smell, some suggest adding a couple drops of mint oil or other pleasant oil to the jar.
you can wrap or cover the affected area with cotton or gauze while sleeping. there is not much of a problem with staining on clothing or bedding from the oil - it does come out in the wash if the material is cotton or denim.
you can save the "plant material" in the fridge in a tight container if you wish to use it in cooking. just grind it as finely as you can or remove stems and leaves before eating.
marble falls
(62,068 posts)and labeled their strains very carefully with % of both. I also found the dispensary I used to have staff very educated and serious about the advantages of one component over the other in their strains.
I do not want to violate the rules on spam so if you'll PM me I would be glad to share which dispensary I found the most helpful and the least "headshop"-ey.
They also offer a vets discount 0f 15%.
NightWatcher
(39,358 posts)...but I've got a guy who has about a 75/25 or 80/20 indica/sativa hybrid.
I smoke and it makes my feet feel so great. If I smoke for two days straight (just a little bit), I will feel good for two days after I stop.
It does wonders for my neuropathy and I hope it helps yours as well.
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)and yes it is very helpful indeed. I think I'm getting a lot closer to the correct mix! Thank you very much
beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)I know about : Cannatonic and Critical Cure. In the not-to-distant past, cannabis was either high THC /low CBD ,or vice-versa. But these two strains are bred to be 1:1. I like them for maintenance. They give me good daytime pain relief without drowsiness.
Also, I don't know what state you're in, but here in Cali there seems to be a movement towards whole plant remedies and sublingual medicines. Care by Design makes sprays in five different varieties, including a 1:1 formula. True Medicinals has nine different formulas in various proportions, and their products come in drops.
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)I'll check into this -- seems this was one of the pamphlets she was showing me,it was very rushed as I mentioned. Thanks again
beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)to you!
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)Same to you!
pscot
(21,037 posts)No idea how accurate that is from one grower to the next. I read the strain reviews, especially the negatives. High CBD strains help with pain but side effects can include headaches, dizziness and extreme couch lock. Someone here recommended Harlequin, and it does help with pain. Just don't lay on any high effort activities, apres fumer, so to speak. My theory holds that anything that gets you sufficiently ripped will provide pain relief, so I stick to old fashion Mexican and Caribbean sativas when I can get them. Try different strains until you find something that works for you. A good, friendly dispensary is a big help there.
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)That is some good info. re: the other side of CBDs.
I know a person that uses these only and I've never heard of possible side-effects but it is good to know of them being I am treating my cat with CBDs right now too. I'm not sure if it is affecting her in a positive way or not and I was sure hoping it would get her to eat more.
She is very frightened and getting very thin very fast. I fear her end is near sadly.
As for me, I can wait ...
as for the cat well I may have to do something like tomorrow I fear ...
and then I'll likely crack-up and won't be seen again for some time as this whole thing w/the cat is incredibly sad to say the least.
Thanks again for the info.