So our city council put a moratorium on mmj shops because of "public safety", and

[jtuck004]

then gave a permit to move the donut shop (admittedly the best in Spokane) to a new location, so it could continue serving white bread deep fried in grease and coated with layers and layers of sugar and syrup.

There has never been one death attributed to the thoughtful use of marijuana.
We lose hundreds of thousands of people every year from the effects of too many donuts and too much other sugar.

Public safety.

[fizzgig]

1. my city went through that

city council put the moratorium in, the voters approved it but we overturned a year later (same year we straight up legalized it).

the "won't someone think of the children" crowd makes me want to smash my face into a wall.

[niyad]

2. nah, you feel better if you smash their faces into the wall.

[fizzgig]

3. i sure would love to

but i do not look good in orange.

[niyad]

4. not my colour, either.

[RussBLib]

5. we may have to retire that "never been one death" meme

I can easily see how a really strong dose of edibles could potentially freak out someone and cause them to do some irrational shit. If you jump, or fall, from a high balcony and you are higher than a kite, I suppose you could attribute the death to weed intoxication. Over-intoxication.

If a drunk guy falls from a balcony, wouldn't we likely blame alcohol for the death, in some fashion?

Third Death in Colorado Linked to Marijuana Edibles
BY NEWS DESK | MARCH 27, 2015

The third death associated with marijuana edibles could not have come at a worse time for the state’s 15-month-old legal pot industry. Services are being held today in Tulsa, OK, for Luke Goodman, 23, who reportedly killed himself last Saturday night in a condo at Colorado’s Keystone Ski Area, where he was staying for two weeks with his family.

It will be a few weeks before toxicology reports will be returned, but Goodman’s family and friends suspect that edible marijuana was a factor in the self-inflicted gunshot death. His mother, Kim Goodman, blames her son’s death on “a complete reaction to the drugs.”

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The two other Colorado deaths associated with pot-infused foods were:

Wyoming college student Levy Thamba Pongi, 19, who took a leap from a Denver hotel balcony after eating pot-infused cookies. “Marijuana intoxication” was listed by the coroner as a significant factor in his death.

Kristine Kirk, 44, who was allegedly shot and killed by Richard Kirk. She had called 911 to report that her husband was experiencing hallucinations after taking marijuana candy with prescription medicine. Prosecutors have charged him with first degree murder.

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[jtuck004]

6. Reminds me of Festus Hagan. They always came to get him when they needed the smart Hagan.

You said something different. I said...

"There has never been one death attributed to the thoughtful use of marijuana"

There is nothing thoughtful about buying something mostly unregulated and running up to a room with a balcony to eat it - obviously an unsafe environment. There were other illnesses, obviously, also in play (one already had script medicines, easily could have been for psychiatric disorder). Was there a history of spousal abuse? Those behaviors are atypical for this particular drug, and while this is happening at least tens of millions of other people are using it safely, which makes one wonder why these are so wildly different?

And the other big thing - when you add this drug into a population and look for the things you mentioned, such as suicides, sudden death, auto accidents, the kinds of things common with, say, Oxycontin or others, the numbers are statistically insignificant. The increase just isn't there. All those things happen whether the cannabis is there or not.

So, great for conversation at a donut shop, not so good for sick people needing relief, and it would be useless to base policy on. Fortunately, most people have learned one or two things since 1936.

[0rganism]

7. i'm not a fan of edibles

pretty tough to regulate dosage since the effects don't show up for an hour or so, too.
had one housemate (who didn't smoke) get really sick after eating some fairly potent cookies i made, could have been a collision with other meds he was taking at the time, i don't know. given how much psychotropic medication is already circulating through the veins of the public, i do think edibles pose a risk to people unfamiliar with their effects.

[CentralMass]

8. Hmmm i remember "the brownie incident" in the summer of '80.

It's not working, lets eat another one... That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Or, God protects fools.

[eridani]

10. That's why the Netherlands made selling edibles and smokeables in the same shop illegal

The "this isn't working" effect. So they'd buy a joint and smoke it, and the edible and smokeable effects hit concurrently and the tourist went out and walked in front of a tram.

[CentralMass]

11. +1

[RussBLib]

9. nor I

my (relatively limited) experience with various forms of non-oil edibles, is they make me rather paranoid and nervous. I've gotten that nervous buzz from about six different types of edibles so far.

I can get that way with some of the activated oils, if I consume too much, but a moderate amount and I get a really nice, pleasant, confident and long-lasting buzz. I feel sure that certain cannabis strains of flowers also can make me feel paranoid, and while I cannot name them, when I find one, I stay away from it.

The OP article is only "linking" edibles with deaths. They are not saying the edibles "caused" the deaths. As with many things, more than one factor can play a role.

Goodness knows our phramaceutical industry is putting some dangerous chemicals out there and into our systems. I have had some bad experiences with pregablin (Lyrica) and gabapentin (Neurontin) recently, and if I had died (and the Neurontin made me feel like I had died), I would have had some marijuana in my system at the time. I wonder if my death would have been "linked" to cannabis?