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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:18 AM Jul 2015

Big Court Defeat For Marijuana Despite Record Tax Harvests

Should marijuana businesses pay tax on gross profits or net profits? It sounds like a silly question. Virtually every business in every country pays tax only on net profits, after expenses. But the topsy-turvy rules for marijuana seem to defy logic. And taxes are clearly a big topic these days under both federal and burgeoning state law.

Many observers and legislators suggested that legalizing marijuana would mean huge tax revenues. With legalized medical marijuana now giving way to more and more states legalizing recreational use, the cash hauls look ever more alluring. Washington state regulators say the state collected $65 million in first-year taxes from recreational marijuana sales in just 12 months on cannabis sales of over $260 million from June 2014 to June 2015. In Colorado, the governor’s office estimated that it would collect $100 million in taxes from the first year of recreational marijuana.

In the end, Colorado’s 2014 tax haul for recreational marijuana was $44 million, causing some to say that Colorado’s marijuana money is going up in smoke. Still, that isn’t bad for the first year. Colorado was first to regulate marijuana production and sale, so other governments are watching. Colorado also collected sales tax on medical marijuana and various fees, for a total of about $76 million. Still, not all sales are going through legal channels.

Now, in another blow to the budding industry, is the IRS has convinced the influential Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that marijuana dispensaries cannot deduct business expenses, must pay taxes on 100% of their gross income. The case, Olive v. Commissioner, was an appeal from a U.S. Tax Court decision. Martin Olive sold medical marijuana at the Vapor Room, using vaporizers so patients do not even have to smoke.



Indeed, the New York Times had stressed that legal marijuana faces another federal hurdle when it comes to taxes. The problem is major, for federal law trumps state law. Even legal medical marijuana businesses continue to have big federal income tax problems. It is a classic Catch 22–tax evasion if they don’t report, and a risk of criminal prosecution if they do. More imminent, though, is the risk of being bankrupted by their IRS tax bill.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/07/13/big-court-defeat-for-marijuana-despite-record-tax-harvests/

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Big Court Defeat For Marijuana Despite Record Tax Harvests (Original Post) n2doc Jul 2015 OP
Who in our Government is making these tax decisions about mj sales? nt ladjf Jul 2015 #1
I don't know who is making these decisions, but our Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, does not djean111 Jul 2015 #2
This is why Loretta Lynch was such a rotten choice for AG Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #3
Our Congress can fix this and should.. mountain grammy Jul 2015 #4
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. I don't know who is making these decisions, but our Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, does not
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:31 AM
Jul 2015

believe marijuana should be legalized, and, IMO and all that, legalizing pot is going to be very onerous and arduous. Conveniently, she also has seemed quite fond of civil forfeiture, which is another way to make money from pot busts. Whether there is actually pot, or not. Our law enforcement system seems to consider civil forfeiture as a game and as part of their budget. No one, evidently, is going to give up the power and the money.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. This is why Loretta Lynch was such a rotten choice for AG
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:37 AM
Jul 2015

'Rules changes' that are grossly unfair and uncommon.

mountain grammy

(27,276 posts)
4. Our Congress can fix this and should..
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jul 2015

Congressman Polis (my rep) has been on this since his first term. He's mentioned in this article and has been trying to change the federal MJ laws since elected.

This will send more marijuana underground. Fix it. congress, you sorry fools.

Meantime, the prices in Colorado are falling. We were just considering ending our growing operation, but guess we won't give it up any time soon.

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