"Deer Hunting With Jesus": Lost in America-Those Forgotten People We "Lib Dems" Love to Hate/PTS 1&2

[KoKo]

LONGVIEW: Deer Hunting With Jesus

Uploaded on Dec 17, 2008

Much has been said about white working-class voters. But those who've been doing all the talking are pollsters and political operatives. As part of our Long View series, ANP traveled to rural Virginia to talk to someone who's lived the life and knows from personal experience what those voters are thinking -- author Joe Bageant. His highly-acclaimed recent book, Deer Hunting With Jesus, was lauded by one reviewer as a "raging, hilarious, and profane love song to the great American redneck." In addition to being that, it's also one of the most prescient pieces of analysis about American politics and culture in this election year.

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The Kingdom of Survival - Joe Bageant
Uploaded on Jul 26, 2010
An interview with Joe Bageant, author of "Deer Hunting with Jesus" and "Rainbow Pie" taken from Slowboat Films' "THE KINGDOM OF SURVIVAL.

[eridani]

1. Sadly, like many people with Joe's class background, he died relatively young at 62

http://www.energygrid.com/society/2004/08jb-karaoke.html

Dot's life has been every bit as hard as Patsy's. Harder because she has lived twice as long as Patsy Cline managed to. By the time my people hit 60 they look like a bunch of hypertensive red faced toads in a phlegm coughing contest. Fact is, we are even unhealthier than we look. Doctors tell us that we have blood in our cholesterol and the cops tell us there is alcohol in that blood. True to our class, Dottie is disabled by heart trouble, diabetes and several other diseases. Her blood pressure is so high the doctor at first thought the pressure device was broken. Insurance costs her as much as rent. Her old man makes $8.00 an hour washing cars at a dealership, and if everything goes just right they have about $55 a week for groceries, gas and everything else. But if an extra expense as small as $30 comes in, they compensate by not filling one of Dot's prescriptions — or two or three of them — in which case she gets sicker and sicker until they can afford the copay to refill the prescriptions again. At 59, these repeated lapses into vessel popping high blood pressure and diabetic surges pretty much guarantee that she won't collect Social Security for long after she reaches 63. If she reaches 63. One of these days it will truly be over when the fat lady sings.

Yet the local Social Security administrators, cold Southern Calvinist hardasses who treat federal dollars as if they were entirely their own — being responsible with the taxpayers' money — have said repeatedly that Dot is capable of fulltime work. To which Dot once replied, "Work? Lady, I cain't walk nor half see. I cain't even get enough breath to sing a song. What the hell kinda work you think I can do? Be a tire stop in a parkin' lot?" Not one to be cowed by mere human misery, the administrator had Dot bawling her eyes out before she left that office. In fact, Dottie cries all the time now. Even so, she will sing one, maybe two songs tonight. Then she will get down off the stage with the aid of her cane and be helped into a car and be driven home.

Although my people seem to step on their own dicks (I couldn't think of a female metaphor) every time they get near polling place, it is not entirely because we are drunken inbreds, although it is a contributing factor. The truth is that Dottie would vote for any candidate, black, white, crippled blind or crazy, that she thought would actually help her. I know because I have asked her if she would vote for a president who wanted a nationalized health care program?"

"Vote for him? I'd go down on him!"

Voter approval doesn't get much stronger than that.

[Eleanors38]

2. Bageant describes how liberal Democrats essentially abandon another constituency.

Great reading. Have passed it on to other folks. Best short guide to the failings of the Party, and a little light on what needs to be done. Bageant was discussed at length in DU several years ago, and is worthy of discussion again.

[merrily]

3. What kind of rifle did Jesus use?