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scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:41 PM Nov 2014

Take names. These are the Dem Senators who voted FOR Keystone:

YEAs:
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Hagan (D-NC)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Pryor (D-AR)
Tester (D-MT)
Walsh (D-MT)
Warner (D-VA)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00280

These are the Democratic Senators who are willing to promote the huge LIE that the Keystone Pipeline "creates jobs and energy independence".

Remember who the liars are.

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Take names. These are the Dem Senators who voted FOR Keystone: (Original Post) scarletwoman Nov 2014 OP
I knew Bennet would vote yes before the vote. 2016 is coming. Autumn Nov 2014 #1
no excusevfor begich. he lost roguevalley Nov 2014 #18
Isn't that how they do it? In the Lame Duck Congress they push through policies sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #34
Pryor (Arkansas) lost his race too. bvar22 Nov 2014 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Nov 2014 #27
I just sent him a letter, for all the good it will do. CrispyQ Nov 2014 #39
Thanks for that. Interested to see "my" Senator (Casey) on the list. (nt) enough Nov 2014 #2
The third way rot within the Dem party. L0oniX Nov 2014 #3
yep. Phlem Nov 2014 #11
Why McCaskill? oldtime dfl_er Nov 2014 #4
Check her campaign contributors? scarletwoman Nov 2014 #5
I am thinking of... 3catwoman3 Nov 2014 #25
I'm not surprised. Ino Nov 2014 #22
Excellent "collection"! Thank you! scarletwoman Nov 2014 #28
Unfortunately, not until 2018. Ino Nov 2014 #33
I'm not surprised at all to see her on that list. People have been a bit fooled by McCaskill. I sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #35
K/R and thanks for posting, scarletwoman! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #6
They serve a different Master. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #8
Litmus test for a New Democratic Party - no fucking liars allowed. Liars names noted. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #7
Thank you. That's exactly how I feel. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #10
+1 Scuba Nov 2014 #15
The PRG 50 State Strategy should make certain that these conservatives masquerading as rhett o rick Nov 2014 #49
I assume that the R's voted 100% in favor. These are Democrats in Name Only. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #9
+1 Scuba Nov 2014 #16
No surprise to see Casey on the list. dino nt Mnemosyne Nov 2014 #12
Now, which ones are up for election in 2016??? TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #13
Well, Hagan is gone..(although her replacement would have voted the same) KoKo Nov 2014 #14
No surprises here. They're Demoncrats, not Democrats. nt valerief Nov 2014 #17
Obviously they don't care about the Great Sioux Nation Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2014 #19
See these people these are Conservative. PatrynXX Nov 2014 #20
So happy to see.... 99Forever Nov 2014 #21
Which ones are lame duck? ErikJ Nov 2014 #23
Here's the ones that still have a job come January demwing Nov 2014 #24
And that will be more than enough to get them to 60 vi5 Nov 2014 #40
I think you misunderstood me demwing Nov 2014 #41
Understood. vi5 Nov 2014 #42
Then I misunderstood you! demwing Nov 2014 #44
Warner got re-elected too RedstDem Nov 2014 #51
Every one of these need to go. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #26
Yes, I agree, but how to fight the money they will have behind them? Which is how they got there sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #36
What does it take to change out the Party Leadership? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #50
The entire base threatening to quit the party unless they get some real Democratic Leadership. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #52
I just voted for Warner, but the alternative was even worse. Sucks williesgirl Nov 2014 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #30
Gee, those 50 jobs really need to get spread around thinly, don't they? merrily Nov 2014 #31
kick glinda Nov 2014 #32
K&R! Thank you for naming names, scarletwoman! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #37
Democratic flotsam. nt ladjf Nov 2014 #38
Bastards. hotrod0808 Nov 2014 #45
Looksl like at least half of them had nothing to lose, the voters already kicked them out. But sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #46
Kicking this again as those names should not be forgotten. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #47
Thank you. I agree, these names should not be forgotten. nt scarletwoman Nov 2014 #48
k and r. these people are like cancers. bbgrunt Nov 2014 #53
Kicking this so we don't forget those names, especially the ones who are still there n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #54

Autumn

(46,360 posts)
1. I knew Bennet would vote yes before the vote. 2016 is coming.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

The U.S.A. Freedom Act is being debated in the Senate, Another one to mark.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Isn't that how they do it? In the Lame Duck Congress they push through policies
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 01:16 AM
Nov 2014

they KNEW would be political death in their campaigns. They then use the losers to vote while they can, without having anything left to risk.

The Lame Duck period is the most fertile period to get legislation through that is the most unpopular with their bases. Some have nothing to lose, and they allow a few others, probably just enough to get the legislation passed, hoping that voters will forget their betrayal in their next elections.

So iow, Begich was a perfect choice to vote FOR the Pipeline. HE will be okay, most likely rewarded for his vote by his corporate buddies.

The whole system is so corrupt, it's hard to know where to begin to even try to fix it.

I would not be surprised if the Chained CPI is 'back on the table' during this period.

Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Ino

(3,366 posts)
22. I'm not surprised.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:10 PM
Nov 2014

I don't know how she manages to fool so many into thinking she's anything but a DINO.

My collection of McCaskill's pro-Repuke positions:

She voted for everything George Bush put in front of her... war, more war, Patriot Act, increased spending, bailing out the banks, etc. Then, after Obama got elected and people started clamoring for jobs, but the Repugs were now oh-so-worried about the deficit, she had this to say: "Jobs are important, but we have to worry about the deficit" -- the deficit she helped drive up! I could not find a link for this quote, but I =heard= her say that, and it infuriated me.

So what did our darling propose to do about the deficit?...

"McCaskill introduced on Tuesday anti-deficit legislation that could impose automatic cuts in Social Security and other entitlement programs. McCaskill, of Missouri, was the only Democrat to join with a group of Republicans to press for a far-reaching debt reduction plan that would tie federal spending to the nation's economic ouput. McCaskill is a chief sponsor with Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn. No Democrat other than McCaskill has stepped forward to support the plan, suggesting that it could encounter stiff opposition in the Democratic-run Senate. Politicians typically shy away from proposals to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid because of the backlash that arrives from all directions."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/mccaskill-joins-senate-gop-in-deficit-reduction-bill/article_fc2fc4c3-b5dc-5bee-b629-4bd56eddf62b.html

McCaskill teams up with GOP on radical bill to slash Social Security, Medicare
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/03/940951/-McCaskill-teams-up-with-GOP-on-radical-bill-to-slash-Social-Security-Medicare

She voted to approve Mukasey, cuz she voted for everything George Bush wanted.

A quote from 2010, illustrating that she’s no Democrat:
"I voted against my party with some frequency, because of my independence. I've just got to remind Missourians that I am independent and that I try to call them like I see them, and sometimes my party is wrong on some things."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/11/04/interview_with_senator_claire_mccaskill_107861.html

She would not fight for single-payer healthcare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x352350

In the wake of moveon.org’s ad condemning “General Betray Us,” McCaskill was one of 22 Democratic Senators and 49 Republicans who voted in support of Repuglican Cornyn's amendment to "strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus." Even Hillary Clinton voted against that bit of pandering nonsense. Petraeus later resigned in disgrace.
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/wariniraq/a/moveon_ad_vote.htm

In 2013, she was the 24th richest congressperson...
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/kevin-mcdermott/mccaskill-ranks-th-in-this-year-s-list-of-richest/article_a372aa25-094f-54ab-843e-a3d5eb1988e2.html

Yet, this former auditor “forgot” to pay nearly $300K in taxes on her private plane, but she did remember to bill taxpayers for her trips in it...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/claire-mccaskill-admits-to-287000-in-unpaid-taxes-on-private-plane/2011/03/15/AB5fv77_blog.html

The only reason she won the last election is because Todd Akin couldn't keep his stupid mouth shut.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
28. Excellent "collection"! Thank you!
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:33 PM
Nov 2014

When is she up for re-election? Are there any possible candidates to run against her in the primary?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
35. I'm not surprised at all to see her on that list. People have been a bit fooled by McCaskill. I
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 01:18 AM
Nov 2014

like to see her challenged in her next primary frankly.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. K/R and thanks for posting, scarletwoman!
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:09 PM
Nov 2014

How stupid can they be?

Or do just think all of US are that stupid?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
8. They serve a different Master.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:16 PM
Nov 2014

This is how you weed out the private servants from the public servants.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
49. The PRG 50 State Strategy should make certain that these conservatives masquerading as
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:43 PM
Nov 2014

Democrats get no help. Instead our support will go to their progressive challengers.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. I assume that the R's voted 100% in favor. These are Democrats in Name Only.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:18 PM
Nov 2014

Or Conservative Democrats etc.

It is a huge distraction to argue that this war we are in, is between Democrats and Republicans. This vote should end that thinking.

This class war is between Conservatives and Non-Conservatives. And any conservative can identify themself as a Democrat.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. Well, Hagan is gone..(although her replacement would have voted the same)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:50 PM
Nov 2014

We have her RW counterpart coming up for re-election in 2016...so there's work to be done. John Edwards did have a NC Senate seat for 4 years before he ran for President. I bet he wishes he'd stayed in the Senate for NC... I wish he had, also. Better fit than what happened to him.

Kagan came from banking...she will probably return there or for a position in one of the Oil Companies after this vote.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
19. Obviously they don't care about the Great Sioux Nation
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:35 PM
Nov 2014

whose land is the pipeline trying to cut through? Rosebud Sioux Reservation in South Dakota.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
20. See these people these are Conservative.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:47 PM
Nov 2014

Painful but must get rid of them. Bye bye. Who is Canada to dictate what USA should do.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
24. Here's the ones that still have a job come January
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:29 AM - Edit history (1)

Bennet (D-CO)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCaskill (D-MO)

I'm assuming Landrieu loses her seat, as it seems likely

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
40. And that will be more than enough to get them to 60
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 01:08 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe the party can reward them all with leadership positions.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
41. I think you misunderstood me
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 02:23 PM
Nov 2014

those Dems lost or retired their seats in the last election. The vote has already happened, The good guys won.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
42. Understood.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 02:36 PM
Nov 2014

My point is, the conservadems that will still be in their Senate seats come January will be enough to get the GOP to a veto proof majority.

There's no doubt that the GOP controlled Senate will put it up for a vote again when they have more seats. The only reason they even bothered to have a vote right now was to hail mary save Landrieu's seat for the run off election.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
51. Warner got re-elected too
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:41 PM
Nov 2014

thank god (from an atheist)
he was running against, possibly, the biggest douche in the republican party.

I would rather see money go towards high speed rail, or alt energy, but there's a lot of pipe-liners who want the work.

onecaliberal

(35,895 posts)
26. Every one of these need to go.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:28 PM
Nov 2014

This is a third way list if I've ever seen one. Screw our children, screw the biggest aquifer in the country. These people do NOT share our values. They are not dems they need to go!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
36. Yes, I agree, but how to fight the money they will have behind them? Which is how they got there
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 01:22 AM
Nov 2014

in the first place. Whenever a good Progressive runs against these Dinos, the Party Leadership supports the Dino. There must be some way to fight this money. THAT imo, is the most important issue that needs to be addressed.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
52. The entire base threatening to quit the party unless they get some real Democratic Leadership.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:00 PM
Nov 2014

But they will always have their enablers so that won't happen. That blind loyalty is the real problem.

The party has lost so much of its membership over the past decade or so. Only 32% of voters now identify as Democrats. Down from, I believe 44%. If THAT doesn't demonstrate how disgusted voters are with the way they are being represented, I don't know what does.

But the more people who tell them they will not vote for their chosen Corporate Candidates, the better. Telling them 'we don't like him/her, but I'll hold my nose because the other guy is worse' is exactly what they want to hear. That's all that matters to them regarding the voters, their votes at election time. After that they ignore them until the next election.

They have learn that the people are supposed to have a say in all of this and people need to have a 'no tolerance' attitude towards them when it comes to who they decide to support to represent the PEOPLE. The problem is, the DNC chooses candidates who are guaranteed to represent Wall St.

Response to scarletwoman (Original post)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. Gee, those 50 jobs really need to get spread around thinly, don't they?
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 12:45 AM
Nov 2014

I must say, though, I get that Begich and Landrieu would probably get shot, not just voted out, if they voted against oil, especially Begich.

Of course, trying to educate your constituents on an ongoing basis, instead of simply selling out their descendants when voting times comes is out of the question.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
46. Looksl like at least half of them had nothing to lose, the voters already kicked them out. But
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 06:25 PM
Nov 2014

this is how they do it in the Lame Duck Congress, they allow the losers to use their remaining power to screw the voters, then they get their rewards in the Corporate World. The others will be allowed to vote for something 'populous' over the next couple of years, while the task of voting for unpopular legislation will be given to a few others.

It's quite a game they play. At the expense of the people. Time to thoroughly expose it.

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