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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:02 PM Mar 2015

But Is Hillary Ready for Us?

But Is Hillary Ready for Us?
William Greider-- March 10, 2015

The not-yet candidate herself spoke to their concerns indirectly when she recently addressed the Silicon Valley Conference for Women. Clinton sketched out progressive goals for family-centered labor-market reforms. They were like love bombs for bleeding-heart liberals.

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The Clinton machine’s real target audience, I suspect, are the media pundits and political reporters who will cover the next campaign and inevitably shrink the terms of debate by reducing the substance to a handful of insipid, shorthand clichés. The expressions of what Hillary (maybe) thinks and says as a candidate are meant to assure big media that she truly is a progressive candidate and willing to get beyond the status quo.

This pre-conditioning strategy might very well succeed, at least with the press if not with voters. The makeover has already begun in the establishment press. An op-ed columnist at The New York Times extolled the Larry Summers conversion to liberal economics as significant news headlined “Establishment Populism Rising.” If Clinton is repackaged as a pragmatic “populist,” then the press can cast Elizabeth Warren (not to mention Bernie Sanders and others) as a reckless bomb-thrower. Adjectives like “angry” and “strident” are already being attached to her name.

But these are not normal times. The preliminary skirmishes are more meaningful this time because they reflect the profound crisis of identity that burdens the Democratic Party. What does the party really believe? Whose interests will the nominee truly fight for? Democrats lost their old soul long ago, as critics like myself repeatedly charged. The 2016 election could become the decisive moment that either transforms the party with an aggressively liberal economic agenda or clings to the past and the “corporate-friendly” straddle devised a generation ago by Bill Clinton’s New Democrats.

Trouble is, the New Dems are now the Old Guard. Their center-right program—financial deregulation and “free market” globalization—has not only run out of gas but is rightly blamed for laying the groundwork for financial catastrophe. Yet the New Dem wing still holds the high ground, with big money and loyal supporters as well as Clinton clones populating the key governing positions. The labor-liberal insurgency has a weak bench because for a generation its promising young people were excluded from governing ranks—systematically screened out by both Clinton and Obama administrations—if they showed telltale signs of leaning leftward or embracing non-conformist ideas that resonate with the party’s New Deal values.

By contrast, Republican regimes since Ronald Reagan have always made a point of appointing thousands of young right-wingers to second-level government posts as the training ground for long-term governance. Dems still invoke sentimental rhetoric from the New Deal era, but the practical reality is that the party’s economic policy makers went to school on Wall Street, either before or after their public service (sometimes both).

The gut question is: Can we believe the warm and fuzzy reassurances from the Clinton camp? In politics, after all, it is possible for leopards to change their spots into stripes, and they are often congratulated when they do. On the other hand, it is also true some leopards will change back again after they win the election. I suspect we voters will be arguing this question of credibility right up to the 2016 election.

I am impressed that some well-informed and much-admired economists on the left, like Larry Mishel of the Economic Policy Institute and Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, are congratulating Larry Summers for changing his views. I hope they are right. So why am I not convinced?

Reading the CAP report on “inclusive prosperity,” I began to realize I had heard many of these new ideas long before. Then it hit me. Bill Clinton ran for president on some of the very same stuff back in 1992. His campaign theme in that election year was “Putting People First.” He spelled out his program in great detail, and it helped elect him, though he got less than a majority vote.

Clinton explained he would devote major federal spending to rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure and broadening social guarantees. He promised to protect working people and organized labor who correctly saw their jobs and wages threatened by the new trade agreement called NAFTA. He would go after big-business subsidies and scandalous tax loopholes. Attacking the bloated compensation for corporate executives was the core example of what Clinton intended. What’s not to like?

Within the first months, President Clinton reversed course or abandoned the meat of his promises. He passed NAFTA with Republican votes over labor’s opposition and cut a deal with Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan to let the Fed command a slow-growth economy.

Virtually all of the points made in the Summers report of 2015 could have been made twenty or twenty-five years ago when Bill Clinton was president. In fact, many of them were. Summers is careful to avoid the past, much less even hint at previous views that are now seen as blatantly wrong.

Much More and a Good Read....continued at:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/200897/hillary-ready-us

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But Is Hillary Ready for Us? (Original Post) KoKo Mar 2015 OP
There's a lot to be angry about. pscot Mar 2015 #1
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #12
I understand what's happening. Fuck the Third Way. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #20
Kinda sums up the Clinton legacy on promises vs policy Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #2
....x10 840high Mar 2015 #3
...**1000 HRC is owned by BIG $$$$$ Vincardog Mar 2015 #14
Always will be. Will never change. 840high Mar 2015 #19
One of this generation's bands needs to do a decent cover for this song... cascadiance Mar 2015 #4
I'd go with Foo Fighters but that not be recent enough? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #5
Here's a more recent cover by Axel Rudi Pell... cascadiance Mar 2015 #11
"Can we believe the warm and fuzzy reassurances from the Clinton camp?" Maedhros Mar 2015 #6
Hollywood now calling out for Liz....they will open their wallets TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #7
a major elephant in the room DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #8
Yep! I blame the DNC Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #9
Agree... KoKo Mar 2015 #10
The very suggestion that Venezuela is a threat to the US is absurd. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #13
Did you see this from DU "Good Reads" that Obama's Venezuelian Effort is about "TPP?" KoKo Mar 2015 #15
Thank you, KoKo. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #22
Let's start getting specific. aspirant Mar 2015 #16
We would have to build bridges back to those we bombed...with the Peace Activists... KoKo Mar 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author aspirant Mar 2015 #18
The Populist Movement is well underway. It's not being reported but in many, many small areas rhett o rick Mar 2015 #21

pscot

(21,037 posts)
1. There's a lot to be angry about.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:07 PM
Mar 2015

If you aren't angry you really don't understand what's happening.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
4. One of this generation's bands needs to do a decent cover for this song...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:20 PM
Mar 2015

And maybe some update of the lyrics to indict a lot of the criminals that hold power over us now...

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
11. Here's a more recent cover by Axel Rudi Pell...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:28 PM
Mar 2015


But I'd like to see something like what Anonymous did with their cover of Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth" to make it relevant to Turks when they were protesting what was happening in Gezi Park a couple of years ago...



It is songs like this that old people will recognize and feel drawn to, and if newer lyrics and media is worked together to make it more relevant to the newer generation by artists that they know, I think it will be songs like that that bring us all together the way we need to to build a movement to make some substantive change.
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
6. "Can we believe the warm and fuzzy reassurances from the Clinton camp?"
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:32 PM
Mar 2015

After Obama's dramatic about-face following his inauguration, I'd say this is easy to answer.

NO.

DonCoquixote

(13,698 posts)
8. a major elephant in the room
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:50 PM
Mar 2015
The labor-liberal insurgency has a weak bench because for a generation its promising young people were excluded from governing ranks—systematically screened out by both Clinton and Obama administrations—if they showed telltale signs of leaning leftward or embracing non-conformist ideas that resonate with the party’s New Deal values.

By contrast, Republican regimes since Ronald Reagan have always made a point of appointing thousands of young right-wingers to second-level government posts as the training ground for long-term governance. Dems still invoke sentimental rhetoric from the New Deal era, but the practical reality is that the party’s economic policy makers went to school on Wall Street, either before or after their public service (sometimes both).


And this is why a huckster like Rand Paul, someone who is directly targeting the new deal, gets traction from the young, and even many from the far left like Ted Rall and Madea Benjamin.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
9. Yep! I blame the DNC
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:05 PM
Mar 2015

The idea that we only have a handful
of potential Presidential candidates
and lackluster under-card candidates
is appalling.

Mary Landrieu, Allison Grimes

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. Agree...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

And, I think the problem, also, is that Rand Paul claims he's against the Wars (funding, etc. of Military Actions) we are engaged in. So even though he's truly disgusting there isn't anywhere else for those who prefer to fight for Peace and Diplomacy instead of War to go in the Dem Party these days--even within the Progressive Wing. So, if Rand Paul gives a voice against these "Endless Wars" then he's going to get support on that one issue.

Longtime Democratic Peace Activist David Swanson can't even be heard here on DU and Media Bejamin has long since vanished here along with "Veterans for Peace" and other sites trying to work to stop the MIC. So.....where do we go? I'm a Peace and Diplomacy Advocate but, there's nothing I can post here on DU about Peace efforts and how can one talk about Diplomacy being better than War when people are called "Putin Lovers and Pootie Ass Kissers" if one thinks demonizing Putin and threatening him is more productive than Hard Work/Constructive Diplomacy. Or, how about the latest demonizing of Venezuela's elected leader where Obama has now declared Venezuela a "Threat to the US" (and we all know what that means, by now.)

That's a big problem. And this all started when we elected a Dem President. When Bush was President "Anti-War" actions were very popular and voices for peace could be heard everywhere in Dem Circles.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
13. The very suggestion that Venezuela is a threat to the US is absurd.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:12 PM
Mar 2015

I guess after Iraq they now expect us to believe anything.

Some DUers wonder why we have questions about the President.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
15. Did you see this from DU "Good Reads" that Obama's Venezuelian Effort is about "TPP?"
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:17 PM
Mar 2015

I kid you not: Read Below or go to DU "Good Reads Forum" to see the OP and Replies. WTF?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016116524
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IN REPLY to this POST BELOW from DU "Good Reads" and to Poster Judi Lynn for Posting the Original Article:



http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/10/obamas-hard-turn-to-the-right-in-hemispheric-policy
Antagonizing Venezuela: Obama’s Hard Turn to the Right in Hemispheric Policy
March 10, 2015
Antagonizing Venezuela

Obama’s Hard Turn to the Right in Hemispheric Policy

by FREDERICK B. MILLS
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/10/obamas-hard-turn-to-the-right-in-hemispheric-policy

From the FULL Article:

Does the Bolivarian cause in Venezuela threaten U.S. foreign policy? Venezuela has been at the forefront of regional integration ever since Hugo Chavez was first elected president in 1998. Chavez argued that a necessary condition for any nation in the region to depart from the Washington Consensus and forge an alternative economic policy is the independence and sovereignty of the region from imperial domination. He also promoted the idea that in a multi-polar world, the region would be more likely to diversify its trade relationships, experiment with complementary types of commerce, and avoid political submission to any power block on the planet. These ideas have actually been put into practice, bringing about an epochal change over the past sixteen years, that has led to the formation of ALBA, UNASUR, MERCOSUR, CELAC and other associations of Latin American and Caribbean nations that do not include the U.S. or Canada.

The recent CELAC—China conference in January is an example of this exercise of independence and multi-polarity. But none of this poses a threat to the American people or the state. It does however, challenge one of Obama’s major policy goals, the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. This free trade accord would be much easier to sell at the Summit of the Americas next month in Panama should the Maduro Administration be ousted in time. But that would be a crude calculation.

The people of the United States can benefit from a partnership with the new Latin America and Caribbean that complements each peoples’ needs and resources; but it must be based on mutual respect for sovereignty, and that means a U.S. policy that does not resort to “arm twisting” to impose free trade and neoliberal economic policies on our neighbors to the South. This would take a re-evaluation of the present overall U.S. hemispheric policy and an immediate step back from the precipice.


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aspirant

(3,533 posts)
16. Let's start getting specific.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:45 PM
Mar 2015

The Md senate race; Chris Van Holland vs Donna Edwards. If we support Edwards, a draft Edwards campaign like EW's should start to roll

California; Is Kamala Harris our gal?

Florida; Is Alan Grayson our guy vs Blue Dogs Debbie or Murphy. And on and on

Why can't the DU's Loyal Left create a slate of candidates? Forget about the Corporate Dems, let them fight amongst themselves and use this safe haven as sacred ground to organize. If we are in a combative mood, we always have the choice to slip into GD.

Every vote is important no matter our size. We always have value.

Simultaneously, if we contact our fellow activists and emerging local, Grass Root groups ( David Swanson, Veterans for Peace, Media Bejamin, Chicago Alliance, etc) we are at least at the starting line.

Social media is an definite blessing.

After the primaries, we can still support our Democratic candidates because some will still be standing.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
17. We would have to build bridges back to those we bombed...with the Peace Activists...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:03 PM
Mar 2015

but...I think I understand where you are going. The "Left" as in "FireDogLake" and others tried with "Act Blue" to get Dem Candidates and were partially successful. But, if you mention "FireDogLake" the Website on DU these days you are laughed at...or derided in strongly worded terms....or ignored.

Maybe the Left can build on what we've learned through the years. And it will be through Grassroots and Underground efforts and not the Sites like DU/Daily Kos and the Blogosphere Pundits that thrived in the Bush Years. It will be something new...and not tied into the Media we helped build...that sadly just wasn't enough once we threw all our efforts behind Obama and were left with just being cheerleaders for whatever came next.

Something NEW will come. It can't come soon enough, imho.. But, it might take sorting out Hillary and Jeb before we get to the point where something NEW can get some traction. just my humble opinion of watching this all this since Windows 95 opened the gate for the Masses of us to be able to communicate with each other in huge numbers of old, middle and young who were not all that Computer Savvy but could now find a way to use the first Personal Computers with Browsers, E-Mail and the rest.

The Internet Explosion that took off with Stolen Election 2000 followed by "9/11" and the Iraq Invasion. Building the Grass Roots...we did and the Blogosphere that took out traditional established Newspapers and Magazines and made Information for the Masses available on the Internet.

NOW we transition as Ads and Click Bait takes over the Internet...and move somewhere else?

Response to KoKo (Reply #17)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. The Populist Movement is well underway. It's not being reported but in many, many small areas
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:52 PM
Mar 2015

people are starting to speak up. We may not get enough momentum to unseat the queen, but the corporatists can't hold us down forever.

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