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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:58 PM Jan 2015

Yes We Can...speak the Truth about Corporate Dems to reverse dangerous trend

Many Democrats seem set on Hillary Clinton getting a cakewalk to the party’s presidential nomination, but her neocon-style foreign policy and her cozy ties to Wall Street might give rank-and-file Democrats some pause, as Jeff Cohen suggests.

...I’ve never forgotten Clinton’s remark about representing banks because it tells us much about her worldview – both then and now that she’s even more embedded in the corporate elite (and had Rupert Murdoch host one of her Senate fundraising events).

More importantly, Clinton’s comment speaks to the decline of the Democratic Party as a force that identifies with the broad public, those who often get stepped on by big banks and unbridled greed. Her remark is an apt credo for a party leadership that has spent the last quarter-century serving corporate power (through Wall Street deregulation, media dereg, NAFTA-style trade pacts, etc.) as persistently as it spews out empty rhetoric about “the needs of working families.”

...In 2007, candidate Obama had taken on Hillary Clinton with campaign rhetoric like “I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists in Washington that their days of setting the agenda are over.” The day after his Inauguration, he promised to “close the revolving door that lets lobbyists come into government freely.”

Despite the long-forgotten oratory, Obama recently appointed superstar lobbyist Wheeler as his FCC chair, who promptly pushed a Net Neutrality proposal undercutting an open Internet. He was top lobbyist for not one but two industries (cable TV and cell phone) regulated by the FCC – “the only person inducted into both the cable industry hall of fame and the telecom hall of fame,” according to columnist Juan Gonzalez.

If you staff your administration with corporatists, many of those individuals will ultimately opt to exit the White House to make more money working directly for big business.

In the book “This Town” – an insider’s account of the permanent members of The Club in D.C. who oversee the corporate state whether Democrats or Republicans hold power – journalist Mark Leibovich tracks Obama grads who moved to greener pastures. For example, Obama budget director Orszag predictably took a high-level job at Citigroup. Leibovich also mentions:

ANITA DUNN – a key 2008 campaign strategist and then White House Communications Director, she assisted Michelle Obama’s anti-obesity campaign. After exiting the White House, she became a consultant for food companies working “to block restrictions on commercials for sugary foods targeting children.” Dunn went on to consult for TransCanada in its push for approval of the Keystone XL pipeline.

JAKE SIEWERT – he left his job as a top Treasury Department official to become head of global communications for Goldman Sachs, the bailed-out-firm central to the financial meltdown. (Before the Goldman job was announced, Politico had suggested Siewert might take the helm of the purportedly progressive Center for American Progress.)

GEOFF MORRELL – chief spokesperson for Defense Secretary Robert Gates under both George W. Bush and Obama, he left that job a year after the BP oil spill in the Gulf and became head of communications for BP America. As Leibovich writes: “Bloomberg News would later report that BP’s Pentagon contracts more than doubled in the two years after it caused the biggest spill in U.S. history.”

Two realizations must be faced.

First: Whether Republicans or corporate Democrats control the White House, economic elites largely control policy – and it’s this corporate power and corruption that threatens the economic and environmental future of our country and planet.

Second: Despite gains on issues like gay rights and pot legalization, the trend since the 1980s has been economic/environmental decline alongside the solidification of corporate power and economic inequality – a long-term downward trend that has persisted through the Bill Clinton and Obama years, though at a slower rate than with the GOP in the White House.

The only way to reverse this dangerous trend is to tell the truth about and challenge corporate Democrats – including Clintonites and Obamaites – whenever and wherever feasible....

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/14/hillary-clintons-corporatist-party/


The full article here by Jeff Cohen is really informative. Good talking points about FACTS showing our party is not representing us well, but doing a bang-up job representing Big Money, despite the rhetoric.



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Yes We Can...speak the Truth about Corporate Dems to reverse dangerous trend (Original Post) RiverLover Jan 2015 OP
We must speak about them and we must get them out of office. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #1
Well played Papa Paul Cryptoad Jan 2015 #2
Threatening us with Third Way "centrist" DLC or we get rethugs doesn't cut it any more. RiverLover Jan 2015 #4
It not a threat its a fact...... Cryptoad Jan 2015 #6
First of all you obviously don't know any progressive if you think they stay home. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #8
First off ,,,, I am a Progressive Elected County Offical Cryptoad Jan 2015 #9
I don't know you but I do know that it's easy to call yourself "progressive". rhett o rick Jan 2015 #16
Sorry, Cryptoad Jan 2015 #18
You are the one spreading the meme that progressives don't vote. Now why would rhett o rick Jan 2015 #20
You are so right. Repubs are not the same as conservative Dems. The Republicans rhett o rick Jan 2015 #7
I never said,,, Cryptoad Jan 2015 #10
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #11
If as you say the "progressives" stayed home; why is it that on every ballot that had them Vincardog Jan 2015 #13
+Millions!!!!!!!!!!! VERY well-said. Thank you. RiverLover Jan 2015 #14
Then dont whine about the all the policies Cryptoad Jan 2015 #15
I am confused. You claim to be progressive but don't understand the need to rhett o rick Jan 2015 #17
It not only a behavior of some progressive Cryptoad Jan 2015 #19
Papa Paul is a tool of the Oligarchs. The Oligarchs are running the show and they rhett o rick Jan 2015 #21
Like I said,,,, Cryptoad Jan 2015 #22
We have a problem getting the general public out to vote. Progressives rhett o rick Jan 2015 #23
Is it ok to bring up the bullshit Obama fed us before his election? It's ok by me. Truth is good. L0oniX Jan 2015 #3
Me too. He's the reason I feel so strongly about getting it right this time & not falling RiverLover Jan 2015 #5
Kicked and recommended a massive amount! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #12

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
2. Well played Papa Paul
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 05:06 PM
Jan 2015

equate non-progressive Democrats with Republicans..... makes it easier for the Progressives to stay home for the General Election!

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. Threatening us with Third Way "centrist" DLC or we get rethugs doesn't cut it any more.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jan 2015

Democrats will show up if they know there's a difference btn the parties & at least ONE of them will represent the them.

Here, Sherrod Brown explains it better than I do~





Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
6. It not a threat its a fact......
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 06:03 PM
Jan 2015

look at the number of progressives they dont vote in the General Election when their progressive candidates are defeated in the Primary...... Matter of Fact,,,Yes it does put Rethugs in Office

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. First of all you obviously don't know any progressive if you think they stay home.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:41 AM
Jan 2015

You guys that disparage the progressives should get your stories straight. Some of you say the progressive are too radical and turn around and say we are apathetical. Those that stay home are the general public that see a Republican-Lite vs. a Republican and figure it doesn't matter.

If you want Jeb in 2016, then nominate Clinton-Sachs. The Oligarchs don't care which.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
9. First off ,,,, I am a Progressive Elected County Offical
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:56 AM
Jan 2015

and speak with some voice of Experience , and it seems all the data doesn't support your premise that Progressives are not a subset of the General Public. Matter of Fact you dont have to dig to deep too deep here on DU to bring up testimonies of people proclaiming not to vote for in the General Election because their progressive candidates were defeated in the Primaries.... and I submit Papa Paul loves it!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. I don't know you but I do know that it's easy to call yourself "progressive".
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jan 2015

First of all I don't believe this: "Matter of Fact you dont have to dig to deep too deep here on DU to bring up testimonies of people proclaiming not to vote for in the General Election because their progressive candidates were defeated in the Primaries"

Secondly, why would a "progressive" disparage progressives? "and I submit Papa Paul loves it!"

I have stood in the rain, holding my sign side by side with others and not a conservative Democrat to be seen. One can't get away with calling the Left crazy-assed and then claim they are apathetic. That's a meme heard from the Conservative Democrats that want to split with the Left and elect conservatives.

Progressives don't support Republican Wars, Wall F'n Street, TPP type agreements, fracking, the Patriot Act, etc.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
18. Sorry,
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jan 2015

but people who dont vote for non progressives in the General election because their candidate didn't win the primary, do support everything Republican! It is only the Conservatives that support your "meme" to divide the Dems...... Conservative Dems have no need to support it they can just become Republicans if they wanted. the Conservative Democrats are just as guilty of the same when their candidates dont make General, allowing progressive candidates to be defeated in the General. only the Rethugs have anything to gain by this... that is why they are the ones who spin the meme.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. You are the one spreading the meme that progressives don't vote. Now why would
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jan 2015

you continue to say that? Do you think that ridicule will encourage the progressive to vote? It's not the progressive that stay home. It's the apathetic public that don't respond to the conservative Democrats that the Oligarchs support. The general public will vote for a Republican over a Republican-Lite. It's the general public that we need to get out to vote and we won't do it with candidates like H. Clinton-Sachs. The general public wants change and they recognize it that The Third Way Democrats won't bring change.

If you want to continue with this slide into economic disaster and fascism, then continue supporting non-effectual conservatives.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. You are so right. Repubs are not the same as conservative Dems. The Republicans
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:33 AM
Jan 2015

want to kill us and the Conservative Dems will settle for taking our wealth. And the Conservatives among us tell us that it's so much better to be poor than dead. Yeah!

If you really think that progressives stay home, you don't know any progressives.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
13. If as you say the "progressives" stayed home; why is it that on every ballot that had them
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:03 AM
Jan 2015

progressive issues from gay marriage to Marihuana legalization won handily?

If you want more liberal Democrats to show up - Get some LIBERAL CANDIDATES.

It is the Wishy washy TurD way campaigns depressing the voter turnout

Quit blaming the victims.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. +Millions!!!!!!!!!!! VERY well-said. Thank you.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jan 2015

(as in all of us +Millions who voted in the GE for someone who presented himself, rather convincingly,as a progressive & not a centrist.)

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
15. Then dont whine about the all the policies
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jan 2015

that those Republicans pass and enforce because you helped elected them by not voting in the General Election cause your progressive candidate didn't make it to the General

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
17. I am confused. You claim to be progressive but don't understand the need to
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jan 2015

have progressive candidates. You keep disparaging progressives. Why? Conservative Democrats can't beat Republicans, not because the Democrats don't get progressive help, but because the general public can't tell the difference. Those that aren't voting are the apathetic public that you put to sleep with your Third Way/Republican-Lite candidates.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
19. It not only a behavior of some progressive
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jan 2015

but some non progressive democrats.... Its not hard to figure out how Papa Paul wants us to vote (or not vote)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. Papa Paul is a tool of the Oligarchs. The Oligarchs are running the show and they
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jan 2015

support Republicans and Conservative Democrats. Don't support Oligarch supported candidates and maybe the general public will come out to vote.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
22. Like I said,,,,
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:35 PM
Jan 2015

it is not hard to figure out how Oligarchs want you to Vote [ or not vote]..... and that is what they will promote, their own interest. In the General election a non vote can be just as important as a vote. Those that refuse to see that are tools of the Oligarchs just as much as the Papa Paul.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. We have a problem getting the general public out to vote. Progressives
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jan 2015

work hard at manning GOTV. But the problem is that when the choice is Oligarch Thing 1 vs. Oligarch Thing 2, the general public stays home. It seems your solution is to disparage progressives. How does that help? Give the public a candidate that clear stands for them and Clinton-Sachs isn't that person.

I think your obsession with Papa Paul is misplaced. He is merely a tool of the Oligarchs. Goldman-Sachs is the real danger.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
3. Is it ok to bring up the bullshit Obama fed us before his election? It's ok by me. Truth is good.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jan 2015
“I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists in Washington that their days of setting the agenda are over.” The day after his Inauguration, he promised to “close the revolving door that lets lobbyists come into government freely.”


Oh and many have NOT forgotten the single payer Obama bullshit either.

Of course anyone who brings up the bullshit from Obama is a hater ...right? No I don't hate Obama ...I will never respect liars or people who make promises or say they will act of something ...and then turn right around and tell us or the "professional left" to STFU after they get elected. I consead that Obama is miles better than Rmoney or McInsane but wow I have never been so disappointed and felt like I was taken for a fool by any Dem candidate as much.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
5. Me too. He's the reason I feel so strongly about getting it right this time & not falling
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jan 2015

for well-delivered rhetoric with NO intention of following it through..

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