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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 05:12 PM Jan 2015

Sen. Chuck Schumer wants suggestions for Bold Ideas for the 2016 Election.

It's an odd question for a Democrat to ask imo. Such ideas should be coming naturally to our elected officials especially since the people HAVE been TRYING to let them know, see the last midterm eg, where Progressive issues passed though not always, elected officialswhat they want to see and hear from Democratic Candidates.

Look no further than some of the Democrats who have articulated, and some implemented, see FDR, some of these bold ideas.

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I watched Mario Cuomo's 1984 speech to the DNC and then read the transcript. .What a speech it was, and how prescient, see his references to what might happen if Reagan were to be given four more years! He spoke as if he could see into the future that night.

Gov. Mario Cuomo's 1984 Speech to the DNC

Here is my contribution to Sen. Schumer's request.

This comes after his vilification of Republican policies, Reagan and the crumbs that were supposed to 'trickle down' from their table.

These are some of the Bold Ideas outlined by Gov. Cuomo on that night which are as relevant if not more so today, than they were back then:

We Democrats still have a dream. We still believe in this nation's future. And this is our answer to the question. This is our credo:

We believe in only the government we need, but we insist on all the government we need.

We believe in a government that is characterized by fairness and reasonableness, a reasonableness that goes beyond labels, that doesn't distort or promise to do things that we know we can't do.

We believe in a government strong enough to use words like "love" and "compassion" and smart enough to convert our noblest aspirations into practical realities.

We believe in encouraging the talented, but we believe that while survival of the fittest may be a good working description of the process of evolution, a government of humans should elevate itself to a higher order.

We -- Our -- Our government -- Our government should be able to rise to the level where it can fill the gaps that are left by chance or by a wisdom we don't fully understand. We would rather have laws written by the patron of this great city, the man called the "world's most sincere Democrat," St. Francis of Assisi, than laws written by Darwin.

We believe -- We believe as Democrats, that a society as blessed as ours, the most affluent democracy in the world's history, one that can spend trillions on instruments of destruction, ought to be able to help the middle class in its struggle, ought to be able to find work for all who can do it, room at the table, shelter for the homeless, care for the elderly and infirm, and hope for the destitute. And we proclaim as loudly as we can the utter insanity of nuclear proliferation and the need for a nuclear freeze, if only to affirm the simple truth that peace is better than war because life is better than death.

We believe in firm -- We believe in firm but fair law and order.

We believe proudly in the union movement.

We believe in a -- We believe -- We believe in privacy for people, openness by government.

We believe in civil rights, and we believe in human rights.

We believe in a single -- We believe in a single fundamental idea that describes better than most textbooks and any speech that I could write what a proper government should be: the idea of family, mutuality, the sharing of benefits and burdens for the good of all, feeling one another's pain, sharing one another's blessings -- reasonably, honestly, fairly, without respect to race, or sex, or geography, or political affiliation.

We believe we must be the family of America, recognizing that at the heart of the matter we are bound one to another, that the problems of a retired school teacher in Duluth are our problems; that the future of the child -- that the future of the child in Buffalo is our future; that the struggle of a disabled man in Boston to survive and live decently is our struggle; that the hunger of a woman in Little Rock is our hunger; that the failure anywhere to provide what reasonably we might, to avoid pain, is our failure.


Now for 50 years -- for 50 years we Democrats created a better future for our children, using traditional Democratic principles as a fixed beacon, giving us direction and purpose, but constantly innovating, adapting to new realities: Roosevelt's alphabet programs; Truman's NATO and the GI Bill of Rights; Kennedy's intelligent tax incentives and the Alliance for Progress; Johnson's civil rights; Carter's human rights and the nearly miraculous Camp David Peace Accord.

Democrats did it -- Democrats did it and Democrats can do it again. We can build a future that deals with our deficit. Remember this, that 50 years of progress under our principles never cost us what the last four years of stagnation have. And we can deal with the deficit intelligently, by shared sacrifice, with all parts of the nation's family contributing, building partnerships with the private sector, providing a sound defense without depriving ourselves of what we need to feed our children and care for our people. We can have a future that provides for all the young of the present, by marrying common sense and compassion.

We know we can, because we did it for nearly 50 years before 1980. And we can do it again, if we do not forget -- if we do not forget that this entire nation has profited by these progressive principles; that they helped lift up generations to the middle class and higher; that they gave us a chance to work, to go to college, to raise a family, to own a house, to be secure in our old age and, before that, to reach heights that our own parents would not have dared dream of.

That struggle to live with dignity is the real story of the shining city. And it's a story, ladies and gentlemen, that I didn't read in a book, or learn in a classroom. I saw it and lived it, like many of you. I watched a small man with thick calluses on both his hands work 15 and 16 hours a day. I saw him once literally bleed from the bottoms of his feet, a man who came here uneducated, alone, unable to speak the language, who taught me all I needed to know about faith and hard work by the simple eloquence of his example. I learned about our kind of democracy from my father. And I learned about our obligation to each other from him and from my mother. They asked only for a chance to work and to make the world better for their children, and they -- they asked to be protected in those moments when they would not be able to protect themselves. This nation and this nation's government did that for them.

And that they were able to build a family and live in dignity and see one of their children go from behind their little grocery store in South Jamaica on the other side of the tracks where he was born, to occupy the highest seat, in the greatest State, in the greatest nation, in the only world we would know, is an ineffably beautiful tribute to the democratic process.

And -- And ladies and gentlemen, on January 20, 1985, it will happen again -- only on a much, much grander scale. We will have a new President of the United States, a Democrat born not to the blood of kings but to the blood of pioneers and immigrants. And we will have America's first woman Vice President, the child of immigrants, and she -- she -- she will open with one magnificent stroke, a whole new frontier for the United States.

Now, it will happen. It will happen if we make it happen; if you and I make it happen. And I ask you now, ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, for the good of all of us, for the love of this great nation, for the family of America, for the love of God: Please, make this nation remember how futures are built.

Thank you and God bless you.



You really need to LISTEN to the speech also. His delivery was excellent, passionate, rousing and inspiring, because I believe he meant every word he said.

You can see it here, and elsewhere in this group:



No fear of Republicans or what they might 'think' should a Dem attack them justifiably in that speech. And so much pride in what his/our Party has achieved, no running away from it.

Dems as everyone knows, didn't get the chance to implement the policies Cuomo so passionately believed in.

But he was right, right about the disaster of a second Reagan term.

I wonder if he had been the candidate, would we have suffered through that second term?

He didn't want to run.

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Sen. Chuck Schumer wants suggestions for Bold Ideas for the 2016 Election. (Original Post) sabrina 1 Jan 2015 OP
This is bold: tradewinds Jan 2015 #1
Or BACK them when they do run. That's a good suggestion for Sen. Schumer sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #13
Here's one: Schumer cedes his seat to an actual liberal Scootaloo Jan 2015 #2
That's a good idea. To someone who already HAS big ideas. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #6
+ swilton Jan 2015 #17
Dylan can tell him Demeter Jan 2015 #3
Can we just refer him to fellow Senator Sanders? Good grief! djean111 Jan 2015 #4
Really, He want's BIG IDEAS!?! That's his job! Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #5
Here's one dirtydickcheney Jan 2015 #7
Anyone on their knees servicing Wall Street for as long as he has, needs to come up whereisjustice Jan 2015 #8
LOL Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #9
Chuck Schumer wants to know what we want so they can match their rhetoric to it & GOTV RiverLover Jan 2015 #10
Excellent post as usual, River Lover. Of course Schumer is trying to figure out sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #11
He means convincing marketing strategies. TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #12
I got an idea for him. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #14
Until we have some Wellstone ruled Jan 2015 #15
No he doesn't. Doctor_J Jan 2015 #16
Has He Asked the Democratic House Progressive Caucus? swilton Jan 2015 #18

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. Or BACK them when they do run. That's a good suggestion for Sen. Schumer
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jan 2015

and the party leadership.

The party leadership seems to favor Corporate Candidates over Progressives every time.

See the NJ Race for Governor where we had a good Dem Candidate who could have unseated Christie. However, the Dems were enamoured of Christie for some inexplicable reason. I know he hugged Obama who probably saved his rear end at the time, as Christie's mishandling of Sandy was causing him real problems in that election.

So Dems in NJ ENDORSED the Republican!! In a Blue State! More than 60 of them!

And the leadership abandoned the race to Christie, leaving the Dem without support and without money.

THAT is what the problem is.

Not the first time either, that the Dem leadership seemed to prefer the Republican over the Dem.. Florida comes to mind.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Here's one: Schumer cedes his seat to an actual liberal
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jan 2015

Preferably one that doesn't giggle about strangling Arabs.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. Dylan can tell him
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 05:29 PM
Jan 2015


Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

ETC

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
5. Really, He want's BIG IDEAS!?! That's his job!
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jan 2015

Why did he run for election if he has NO IDEAS?

It's rhetorical.
Schumer is a schmuck.

Maybe he and Hillary can go on a "listening tour"...
sit, nod their heads and express faux empathy for the
destruction their policies have wrought on the working class.

 

dirtydickcheney

(242 posts)
7. Here's one
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 07:23 PM
Jan 2015

Anyone who has been an elected representative can never become a lobbyist.
Nor can any of that persons relatives.

For LIFE.

Start with that one.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
8. Anyone on their knees servicing Wall Street for as long as he has, needs to come up
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 07:55 PM
Jan 2015

for air every now and then.

I guess this is his way of asking "did I miss anything while I was gone?"

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
10. Chuck Schumer wants to know what we want so they can match their rhetoric to it & GOTV
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jan 2015

And then not do any of it once in office...Slick bast*rd.

Chuck Schumer and the Democrats' Identity Crisis: Economic Policy vs. Rhetoric
12/22/14

A populist message won't be enough to save the Democratic Party if its leaders continue to serve Wall Street.

Two weeks before New York Senator Charles Schumer once again delivered for Wall Street with the omnibus budget deal, he gave a major speech in which he sounded like a progressive champion. Schumer offered a stirring defense of government as the only force that can stand up to the private sector’s attack on the middle class, and argued that for Democrats to “roll to victory in 2016... First, we must convince Americans that government can be on their side and is not just a tool of special interests.”

...Unfortunately, Schumer embodies the contradictions that will tear the Democratic Party apart over the next two years. He understands the need to embrace a populist, progressive narrative and program, but his ties to Wall Street and big money lead him to blunt any real moves by Democrats to take a bold stand for working people against corporate power.

The budget proposal to allow more government bailouts of banks that gamble with their depositors’ money was a huge lost opportunity for Democrats to paint Republicans as being on the side of the big banks that wrecked the economy. That opportunity was negated by President Obama’s pushing for the budget and Senator Schumer’s stealth maneuvers (widely known in Congress) to keep the Wall Street deal intact. As a result, the leaders of both parties demonstrated, as they’ve done before, that government is in fact on the side of the rich and powerful.

Schumer knows that this is a problem if Democrats hope to win at the polls....

http://www.nextnewdeal.net/chuck-schumer-and-democrats-identity-crisis-economic-policy-vs-rhetoric



Mario Cuomo was great though. It was great reading your OP, sabrina. It's too bad he had to go. I wish we could clone the good ones.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. Excellent post as usual, River Lover. Of course Schumer is trying to figure out
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 12:27 AM
Jan 2015

what Des need to SAY in order to win.

But voters have demonstrated they are no longer fooled by campaign rhetoric.

'Watch what they DO, not what they SAY'!

The very fact he has to ASK for 'bold ideas' shows how out of touch he is.

He is my Senator, I met him once.

He needs to understand that the voters are not stupid.

And he needs to understand that campaign 'talk' will not get votes UNLESS it is backed up by a voting record.

Which kind of eliminates the current and ONLY candidate.

TheKentuckian

(26,006 posts)
12. He means convincing marketing strategies.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jan 2015

Realistically, whatever anyone is trying to do better be President/Senate centric for the next 7 or 8 years at least.

This means most serious legislation talk is hot air. The game to move the ball forward is in oversight, appointments, enforcement, defense (or not) of challenged statutes, forwarding prosecution (or not), foreign policy, use of the UN, military/security/clandestine services, implementation.

Operational stuff is what we can reasonable expect to have any real opportunity to influence so that is where the focus must be not in new programs and initiatives because you can't do those kind of things with a House dominated by wackos backed by a whole slew of corporate owned crooks.

Sure, overarching ideas have to be put out along with straight talk on why they cannot be executed but actually accomplishing anything is not seed in fertile ground in this direction.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
14. I got an idea for him.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jan 2015

Let's start primarying Corpodems like him with actual Democrats & put out a platform of policies that would actually help people live higher-quality lives.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
15. Until we have some
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jan 2015

semblance of a real News Media,real change ain't going to happen. Social Media will hopefully change the landscape and in the meantime,we have to keep pushing Politicians to represent the people and not the Business Roundtable or Chamber of Commerce. Some how or way,campaign finance has to happen along with a specific time table for campaigning,non of this continuous campaign crap.

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