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rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:44 PM Oct 2019

Wow. A Netflix movie about capitalism. What a cast. The Laundromat.

It’s about unbridled capitalism. It’s about laissez faire. The idea that corporations are the best regulators of their own greed is the dumbest idea I can think of. And this Netflix movie proves it.

One thing here in America, there has never been such a thing as unbridled socialism. That was in the Soviet Union, and never had anything to do with the New Deal.

It’s always been about capital vs. the people. I like the negotiating between the two. It’s a balance, and I hate extremes.

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Wow. A Netflix movie about capitalism. What a cast. The Laundromat. (Original Post) rusty quoin Oct 2019 OP
No, the Soviet Union did not have "unbridled socialism". TygrBright Oct 2019 #1
I didn't say, but that's okay. rusty quoin Oct 2019 #3
Meryl Streep's ending said it all. rusty quoin Oct 2019 #2
Agree! Silver Gaia Oct 2019 #5
Watched this last night. It's a MUST see film! Silver Gaia Oct 2019 #4
Excellent movie, loved it Beringia Nov 2019 #6

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
1. No, the Soviet Union did not have "unbridled socialism".
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 12:08 AM
Oct 2019

(A kind of weird notion anyway, since socialism by definition includes a certain level of "bridling" in the form of regulation.)

In its earliest days a case could be made for a proto-collectivist Marxism until the final Bolshevik takeover in the mid 1920s, at which point they swiftly reorganized into a totalitarian oligarchy with the "Communist" Party elites as the ruling class (quotes applied because there was actually very little resemblance between the operations of the Party in the USSR and any version of Communism as described by Marx and Engels).

To be fair, America's current version of capitalism would be as unrecognizable to Adam Smith as the USSR's version of communism would have been to Karl Marx.

Only a strong Constitution and a vigorous representative government with full adult franchise and regular elections, referenda, checks and balances, and institutionalized power-sharing protects a nation-state against the oligarchy of powerful interests.

When we set the money free with the Reagan deregulation, Citizens United, and the ongoing slow-motion GOP coup against democracy, we empowered our own little suite of oligarchs and their helots.

wearily,
Bright

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
3. I didn't say, but that's okay.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 12:15 AM
Oct 2019

My point was simple. Never had there been much socialism here. Only bits.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
2. Meryl Streep's ending said it all.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 12:10 AM
Oct 2019

And if you dismiss this Steven Soderbergh movie as just a little bit of something, then god bless you all and we are all fucked.

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