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Related: About this forum"No No: A Dockumentary" about pitcher Dock Ellison is now available on Netflix streaming
https://vimeo.com/104550737For those unaware of Dock Ellis, he was a top pitcher in baseball (Pittsburgh 1968-1975 before bouncing around the league until 1979) in spite of and perhaps because of his heavy drinking and abuse of LSD and amphetamines. He was extremely outspoken and advocated for the rights of players and African Americans.
malthaussen
(17,672 posts)"We gonna get down. We gonna do the do. I'm gonna hit these motherfuckers." (Dock before a Reds game in 1974)
-- Mal
FSogol
(46,525 posts)shit about you.
From Donald Hall and Dock's book:
As Rose bent down to pick up the ball, he had exchanged a word with Joe Morgan who was batting next. [ ] Morgan taunted Rose, He doesnt like you anyway. Youre a white guy. Dock hit Morgan in the kidneys with his first pitch. The next batter was Driessen. I threw a ball to him. High and inside. The next one, I hit him in the back. [ ] Bases loaded, no outs. Tony Perez, Cincinnati first baseman, came to bat. He did not dig in. There was no way I could hit him. He was running. The first one I threw behind him, over his head, up against the screen, but it came back off the glass, and they didnt advance. I threw behind him because he was backing up, but then he stepped in front of the ball. The next three pitches, he was running. . . . I walked him. A run came in. The next hitter was Johnny Bench. I tried to deck him twice. I threw at his jaw, and he moved. I threw at the back of his head, and he moved.
Which lead to:
The Reds said something in the paper, and Dock told me, Im going to knock everybody down. I just sat there and he threw the ball. He said, No matter what you do, Im going to throw the ball at them. No matter what you say, Im going to throw at them. Dock didnt care. When Danny came to the mound he asked, Dock, what happened? Dock told him, Nothings wrong chief, and Murtaugh asked him for the ball. Danny liked these kind of players. Fighters. You want to be on a club thats strong. That has respect.
malthaussen
(17,672 posts)Back when the Reds and Pirates were reliably competitive, there was no love lost between them.
The fun part is, the Reds only scored the one run in the first inning -- it finished with a pop up to Hebner and then a 5-2-3 double play. Unfortunately, the Bucs did lose, but Ellis or Murtaugh or somebody energized them, and they did go on to win the East. Too bad LA won the LCS.
-- Mal
teach1st
(5,966 posts)As a sixties and seventies (and, come to think of it, even into the eighties) experimenter, and as someone who loves baseball, especially during the years of my experimentation, this extraordinary documentary hit home. Thanks for posting!
RIP, Dock. You changed people.