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KoKo

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Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:26 PM Nov 2014

War with Isis: Islamic Militants Have Army of 200,000, Claims Senior Kurdish Leader/Patrick Cockburn

Published on
Sunday, November 16, 2014
by
The Independent

War with Isis: Islamic Militants Have Army of 200,000, Claims Senior Kurdish Leader

Exclusive: CIA has hugely underestimated the number of jihadis, who now rule an area the size of Britain

by
Patrick Cockburn

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/11/16/war-isis-islamic-militants-have-army-200000-claims-senior-kurdish-leader

The Islamic State (Isis) has recruited an army hundreds of thousands strong, far larger than previous estimates by the CIA, according to a senior Kurdish leader. He said the ability of Isis to attack on many widely separated fronts in Iraq and Syria at the same time shows that the number of militant fighters is at least 200,000, seven or eight times bigger than foreign in intelligence estimates of up to 31,500 men.

Fuad Hussein, the chief of staff of the Kurdish President Massoud Barzani said in an exclusive interview with The Independent on Sunday that "I am talking about hundreds of thousands of fighters because they are able to mobilise Arab young men in the territory they have taken."

He estimates that Isis rules a third of Iraq and a third of Syria with a population of between 10 and 12 million living in an area of 250,000 square kilometres, the same size as Great Britain. This gives the jihadis a large pool of potential recruits.

Proof that Isis has created a large field army at great speed is that it has been launching attacks against the Kurds in northern Iraq and the Iraqi army close to Baghdad at the same time as it is fighting in Syria. "They are fighting in Kobani," said Mr Hussein. "In Kurdistan last month they were attacking in seven different places as well as in Ramadi [capital of Anbar province west of Baghdad] and Jalawla [an Arab-Kurdish town close to Iranian border]. It is impossible to talk of 20,000 men or so."

The high figure for Isis's combat strength is important because it underlines how difficult it will be eliminate Isis even with US air strikes. In September, the CIA produced an estimate of Isis numbers which calculated that the movement had between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters. The underestimate of the size of the force that Isis can deploy may explain why the US and other foreign governments have been repeatedly caught by surprise over the past five months as IS inflicted successive defeats on the Iraqi army, Syrian army, Syrian rebels and Kurdish peshmerga.

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http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/11/16/war-isis-islamic-militants-have-army-200000-claims-senior-kurdish-leader


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War with Isis: Islamic Militants Have Army of 200,000, Claims Senior Kurdish Leader/Patrick Cockburn (Original Post) KoKo Nov 2014 OP
...and Santa is real too. Sorry. Can't and won't believe it. I'm not sure there is any source... L0oniX Nov 2014 #1
Well...BackAttcha..."I like you, too, very Much, KoKo Nov 2014 #2
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
1. ...and Santa is real too. Sorry. Can't and won't believe it. I'm not sure there is any source...
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 06:12 PM
Nov 2014

I would believe. I just have a hard time with it since being lied into a war. It's like the boy who cried wolf. I'm not even interested in believing it. I almost didn't even respond to the op ...although I like KoKo very much ....NO NO NO NOT THAT WAY!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. Well...BackAttcha..."I like you, too, very Much,
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 06:47 PM
Nov 2014

but "Not that Way."

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Yes, I wondered about this post from Patrick. Was he pointing out that the Kurdish Leader was "inflating the numbers" to get more money and weapons from USA? And, Patrick was, in a way, putting this out their to let "readers" come to their own conclusions?

Or, was Patrick warning "readers" that this is going to be a very long drawn out War with US and our Allies Taxpayers money being drained to defend the Kurds to fight ISIL.

One thing I "think" I know is that none of the Cockburn's have been Pro-War in their writing.

So....I'm thinking this is a warning that Kurds are asking for more Arms, Equipment, Money and he's wondering which countries will "step up to the Plate" for MORE...and what are the consequences.

That's my read...whatever......Who knows?.....we just deal with it..and, the consequences.

But, good to read reporting from other views.....always.

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