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JonLP24

(29,348 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 05:33 PM Mar 2019

Inside Biden and Warren's Yearslong Feud

He sided with the banks in Congress. She was a crusading law professor on the make. In 2020, are we about to get a rematch?

By THEODORIC MEYER March 12, 2019

February morning in 2005 in a hearing room in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Joe Biden confronted Elizabeth Warren over a subject they’d been feuding over for years: the country’s bankruptcy laws. Biden, then a senator from Delaware, was one of the strongest backers of a bill meant to address the skyrocketing rate at which Americans were filing for bankruptcy. Warren, at the time a Harvard law professor, had been fighting to kill the same legislation for seven years. She had castigated Biden, accusing him of trying “to sell out women” by pushing for earlier versions of the bill. Now, with the legislation nearing a vote, Biden publicly grappled with Warren face to face.

Warren, Biden allowed, had made “a very compelling and mildly demagogic argument” about why the bill would hurt people who needed to file for bankruptcy because of medical debt or credit card bills they couldn’t pay. But Biden had what he called a “philosophic question,” according to the Congressional Record’s transcript of the hearing that day: Who was responsible? Were the rising number of people who filed for bankruptcy each year taking advantage of their creditors by trying to escape their debts? Or were credit card companies and other lenders taking advantage of an increasingly squeezed middle class?

Warren blamed the lenders. Many credit card companies charged so much in fees and interest that they weren’t losing money when some of their customers went bankrupt, she said. “That is, they have squeezed enough out of these families in interest and fees and payments that never paid down principal,” Warren said.

Biden parried. “Maybe we should talk about usury rates, then,” he replied. “Maybe that is what we should be talking about, not bankruptcy.”

“Senator, I will be the first. Invite me.”

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/12/biden-vs-warren-2020-democratic-primaries-bankruptcy-bill-225728

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Squinch

(52,729 posts)
4. This is a policy discussion. Meanwhile, trump invents nasty nicknames for his fellow
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 05:39 PM
Mar 2019

republicans, and they never call THAT a feud.

Only Democrats having policy discussions.

Sick to death of it and Politico does it ALL THE TIME!

JonLP24

(29,348 posts)
3. I'm sorry
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 05:39 PM
Mar 2019

It was an article that was published today but not sure where to post it. Since I donated to Warren's campaign I felt it was at least appropriate for me to post in this forum.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
6. That's okay, I probably would have posted it here, too
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 05:46 PM
Mar 2019

I'm disappointed to read so many articles from publications that I view as "one of us" that have agendas like dissing one candidate or another because the author obviously has a preference.

But I agree with the others -- why stir up discord? That helps nobody. Except the Republicans.

JonLP24

(29,348 posts)
7. It was not my intention
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 06:02 PM
Mar 2019

If I wanted to sow discord I would post in GDP but the article does highlight a key policy difference as to why I would back Warren rather than Biden in the primaries. There has never been a consensus in the Democratic Party so I agree media reports of the party in disarray is overblown. If it comes down to it I will vote for Biden.

When the debates come I expect strong disagreements as long as it is respectful and based on policy I don't see a problem there. I see this as a highlight of Warren's career.

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