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Autumn

(46,397 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 05:13 PM Mar 2015

Warren Buffett Says Elizabeth Warren Is Too ‘Angry’ And ‘Violent’ With Rich People

“I think that she would do better if she was less angry and demonized less,” he responded. “I believe in hate the sin, love the sinner, and I also believe in praising by name and criticizing by category.”
He continued that while there are “plenty of other candidates” whose political style he doesn’t agree with, “I do think it’s — I think it’s a mistake to get angry with your, with people that disagree with you,” he said of her. “In the end we do have to work together… And it does not help when you demonize or get too violent with the people you’re talking to.”

But Buffett’s use of the emotional word “angry” may be a sign of some subtle sexism. Women are far more likely to be described with negative words describing personal attributes. News articles are far more likely to refer to women as bossy and pushy. College students are much more likely to call their female professors bossy and annoying and more likely to call male professors brilliant and knowledgable.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/03/02/3628454/buffett-warren-angry/



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Warren Buffett Says Elizabeth Warren Is Too ‘Angry’ And ‘Violent’ With Rich People (Original Post) Autumn Mar 2015 OP
did he mention anything about Bernie Sander's anger and violence? notadmblnd Mar 2015 #1
warren buffet ate babies to get his money and his persona is the effort of a good PR firm. He's just roguevalley Mar 2015 #7
Obviously the truth hurts. notadmblnd Mar 2015 #8
Yup yup. Buffet not worthy of the first name Warren - he should change it to "Pompous Ass". InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #44
Yep. Men are "strong." Women are "angry." Can't have that... CTyankee Mar 2015 #2
I work with some groups that challenge gender stereotypes. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #9
what great pics...went thru the whole lot...WOW! thank you! CTyankee Mar 2015 #18
STFU, Warren Buffett Demeter Mar 2015 #3
All men are to one degree or another, misogynists. randys1 Mar 2015 #4
I prefer to look at it another way and that is...........everyone is an asshole. cstanleytech Mar 2015 #16
Nonsense demwing Mar 2015 #22
I wish randys1 Mar 2015 #23
Greedy asshole by any other name ... GeorgeGist Mar 2015 #5
I thought he was such a great liberal and willing to give so much to society BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #6
Violent? What did she do??? cui bono Mar 2015 #10
You don't remember the basket full of banksters' heads in central park? That was her doing. Doctor_J Mar 2015 #20
I like it that she is "angry". Hell! I am angry! That is why I love her! Left coast liberal Mar 2015 #11
He should cite specific examples. pa28 Mar 2015 #12
The demolition of all their dynasty plans and lock on the puppet Demeter Mar 2015 #13
Perhaps it has to do with a lunch date. Autumn Mar 2015 #27
The wealthy have been winning their class war on the rest of the world for a long time and the merrily Mar 2015 #34
As much as I agree with some of his positions... blackspade Mar 2015 #14
I think he is taking it too personal azmom Mar 2015 #15
Leave Elizabeth alone, Warren. democrank Mar 2015 #17
lol, that asshat Buffet ain't seen nothing yet. Go get 'em Elizabeth! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #45
Buffett has yet to see my collection of torches and pitchforks. OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2015 #19
Lizzy scares the Shit out them folks,,,,,,,nt Cryptoad Mar 2015 #21
Fun to watch, isn't it? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #46
You ain't seen violence yet. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #24
You've not seen violent yet, Warren, but it's coming.... paleotn Mar 2015 #25
Sooner the better - more money-making opportunties will abound - for the weathy. jtuck004 Mar 2015 #40
Because if it wasn't for Warren's "attitude"... BobTheSubgenius Mar 2015 #26
Good! The rich have tipped the scales way too far in their favor. Initech Mar 2015 #28
Anger is a great motivator .. I say get angry, angry as hell. I'm angry .. everyone should be angry. YOHABLO Mar 2015 #29
Ahh the old Bartlet Mar 2015 #30
It makes him uncomfortable in his gilded home Phlem Mar 2015 #31
It's not just sexist. Remember how "angry" Howard Dean was supposed to be? RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #32
Yep. without knowing the number, I used to say "They had that video on a loop." merrily Mar 2015 #35
If he thinks she's angry, he ought to meet the rest of us. n/t FourScore Mar 2015 #33
Violent? Elizabeth Warren? Does he know what the word "violent" actually means? merrily Mar 2015 #36
yeah, Frederick Douglas, MLK, Susan B. Anthony were kinda fussy about their rights too . . . zazen Mar 2015 #37
FWIW, and tellingly, EW is more traditionally "feminine" in demeanor than HRC zazen Mar 2015 #38
Thank you!! RiverLover Mar 2015 #39
! L0oniX Mar 2015 #41
I had an epiphany today! Stainless Mar 2015 #42
Warren Buffett raven mad Mar 2015 #43

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
7. warren buffet ate babies to get his money and his persona is the effort of a good PR firm. He's just
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 05:56 PM
Mar 2015

another ass hat who needs shut up.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
8. Obviously the truth hurts.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:00 PM
Mar 2015

I think he should go lock himself in his safe room and don't come out for nothing lest he become a victim of Ms. Warren's anger.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. I work with some groups that challenge gender stereotypes.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:00 PM
Mar 2015

And your reply made me want to track down a animated video I saw at a very cool event last Wednesday called "We Day", but I haven't found it.

But I did find this post of stereotype challenging images: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/stock-photos-that-hope-to-change-the-way-we-look-at-women#.qkYgaEmW2

And this: http://banbossy.com/

This: http://banbossy.com/share/

And this, here:



 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. STFU, Warren Buffett
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 05:37 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:40 PM - Edit history (1)

or better yet, eat shit and die. You don't have a CLUE what real anger is...for that, we need pitchforks and torches.


edited to distinguish which warren i'm talking about

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. All men are to one degree or another, misogynists.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 05:40 PM
Mar 2015

Just like all white Americans are to one degree or another, racist.

Women are angry, men are passionate.

Women are emotional, men are forceful.


etc

cstanleytech

(27,073 posts)
16. I prefer to look at it another way and that is...........everyone is an asshole.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:50 PM
Mar 2015

Some are just bigger ones than others.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
6. I thought he was such a great liberal and willing to give so much to society
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

But stop kissing his ass and the sharp knives come out.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
20. You don't remember the basket full of banksters' heads in central park? That was her doing.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:11 PM
Mar 2015

Well, we can hope

Left coast liberal

(1,138 posts)
11. I like it that she is "angry". Hell! I am angry! That is why I love her!
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:31 PM
Mar 2015

But I think the article brings up a good point about the inherent sexism that creeps into the conversation. Especially from "men of a certain age"

pa28

(6,145 posts)
12. He should cite specific examples.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:31 PM
Mar 2015

Warren's public statements for the most part reflect his own. That the wealthy have been waging a class war on the rest of America for a long time and the wealthy have already won.

I think what we're really seeing here is a Hillary supporter campaigning against a potential rival. The fact so much "concern" has cropped up today over Warren's rhetoric makes me think some very important and serious people are worried about something.

What could that something be . . . ?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. The wealthy have been winning their class war on the rest of the world for a long time and the
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:15 PM
Mar 2015

wealthy have already won.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. As much as I agree with some of his positions...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:49 PM
Mar 2015

I think he is delusional if he thinks that Warren is 'angry.'
He hasn't seen angry yet.
He would be wise to pay attention to what Warren is saying rather than her 'tone.'

democrank

(11,250 posts)
17. Leave Elizabeth alone, Warren.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:53 PM
Mar 2015

If Warren Buffet thinks Elizabeth Warren is getting "too violent" with people she`s talking to, he`d better toughen up. The Real World is a far cry from the wink and handshake boardrooms Buffet is used to. Elizabeth Warren seems to be upsetting a number of people lately. The truth hurts.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
19. Buffett has yet to see my collection of torches and pitchforks.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:10 PM
Mar 2015

He thinks she's angry? I'm ready to start building Guillotines!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
24. You ain't seen violence yet.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:43 PM
Mar 2015
- She's the one you should be listening to if you don't want violence......

K&R

What an asshole........

paleotn

(19,298 posts)
25. You've not seen violent yet, Warren, but it's coming....
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:50 PM
Mar 2015

...hell, he said himself that his ilk started the class war.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
40. Sooner the better - more money-making opportunties will abound - for the weathy.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 11:26 PM
Mar 2015




"The time to make money is when blood is running in the streets"
Rockefeller

BobTheSubgenius

(11,796 posts)
26. Because if it wasn't for Warren's "attitude"...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:52 PM
Mar 2015

...the billionaires would be flocking to her office to "work together."

Leave the conciliatory, make-nice noises to others, as if they ever have a chance to succeed. Elizabeth Warren is sounding the alarm.

Initech

(102,106 posts)
28. Good! The rich have tipped the scales way too far in their favor.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:03 PM
Mar 2015

To the point where we're reaching unsustainable levels. It's about time we have a president who's not afraid to stand up to these greedy assholes.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
29. Anger is a great motivator .. I say get angry, angry as hell. I'm angry .. everyone should be angry.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:06 PM
Mar 2015

I don't get the '' violent '' statement.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
31. It makes him uncomfortable in his gilded home
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:09 PM
Mar 2015

up in the stratosphere where the filth can't reach.

I say F*^# him.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
32. It's not just sexist. Remember how "angry" Howard Dean was supposed to be?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:10 PM
Mar 2015

It's supposed to mean both unstable and threatening.

When the anger meme didn't stick with Dean, they had to make him crazy.

How can we forget "the Scream"?

Still one of the most mind-boggling media character assassinations of my lifetime:

The scream scene was shown an estimated 633 times by cable and broadcast news networks in just four days following the incident, a number that does not include talk shows and local news broadcasts.


And if that wasn't bad enough:

...those who were in the actual audience that day insist that they were not aware of the infamous "scream" until they returned to their hotel rooms and saw it on TV.


Take a moment to let that sink in.

If someone like Warren threatens the status quo, make no mistake: the media won't hesitate to do something equally outrageous. You can count on it. And the saddest thing is that many of us will fall for it. That's how pathetically manipulable most of us are these days.



merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. Yep. without knowing the number, I used to say "They had that video on a loop."
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:17 PM
Mar 2015

I was for Kerry then, but the media hatchet job made me mad.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. Violent? Elizabeth Warren? Does he know what the word "violent" actually means?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:23 PM
Mar 2015

Demonized? What did she say that was false?


These poor billionaire babies make me want to cry in sympathy for them. For millennia, they've exploited everyone else and been bowed down to. FINALLY, finally, finally, a small number of people are getting educated enough and fed up enough to stop bowing down to them in humble praise--and they yell violence and demonization.

I'm sure they've never demonized (or caused deaths of) the poor, so I totally get their deeply wounded attitudes.



The only thing I really don't get is how they can say shit like this with a straight face.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
37. yeah, Frederick Douglas, MLK, Susan B. Anthony were kinda fussy about their rights too . . .
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:55 PM
Mar 2015

This speaks volumes about Buffett's assumptions. We only call people angry/violent if we perceive they are violating our boundaries. Any demand is perceived as a violation of his ______ (body, property, values, accomplices).

How much of the goddamned planet does the oligarchy have to own that someone speaking out about the impoverished middle class is perceived as committing violence against them?




zazen

(2,978 posts)
38. FWIW, and tellingly, EW is more traditionally "feminine" in demeanor than HRC
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 09:03 PM
Mar 2015

Shows you how strategic their sexism is.

EW has always been softer spoken and warmer than HRC. None of this should matter because they're human beings and are entitled to their own demeanors, but had EW not been lasering in on the GD truth as well as she does, time and time and time again, the mainstream media would be all over her as so cuddly and soft-spoken. She raised a passel of children and wrote recipes and appears a lot more connected/concerned with people than HRC, who thank God (for her own sake, given the abuse heaped on her) has the steeliest demeanor I've seen on just about any politician.

That steely demeanor used to be used against HRC, but since she's towing the neoliberal line, those "standards" are tossed out the window and soft-spoken EW is pilloried for speaking a much steelier truth . . . I think precisely BECAUSE she delivers it so smoothly and warmly.

If the ever gets on a national campaign trail, millions of people are going to warm to her and her message. That's what terrifies them. She's very warm-cookies-grandmotherly, fiercely just, and open-hearted, and women and reasonable (non-threatened) men pick up on that.

Stainless

(719 posts)
42. I had an epiphany today!
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 11:57 PM
Mar 2015

Earlier today, Thom Hartmann was talking about the irrational greed of rich people in general and the Koch Bros. in particular. He explained how the Koch's are using their enormous wealth to ensure that their close minded vision for this country is realized and to accumulate even more wealth than they can possibly ever use. I suddenly realized that they are indeed insane. It is truly frightening to think that their tea-party cohorts are working diligently to see to it that the Koch Bros. are free to follow through with their insanity. Warren Buffett belongs in the asylum along side of them.

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