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billh58

(6,641 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:15 PM Jan 2014

America is becoming more liberal

The tide is turning in our favor in many different areas:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/american-politics-are-moving-to-the-left/2014/01/16/30161350-7885-11e3-af7f-13bf0e9965f6_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage

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"Not too long ago, everyone was declaring American politics a lost cause for progressives. The religious right supposedly had a stranglehold on elections. Then it was the tea party that had the political establishment — initially Democrats and Republicans — quaking. The media and the general public took hold of a narrative parroted by conservative candidates and opinion leaders: The United States was a “center-right” nation.

But after two consecutive elections in which the Democratic candidate for president garnered more than 50 percent of the vote — a one-two punch last achieved by Franklin Roosevelt — it is worth questioning that assumption. The country is getting more diverse, and as the proportion of white voters shrinks, so, too, does the conservative base. As demographics shift, so do political preferences — in this case, toward the left. A close examination of U.S. attitudes in the past decade-plus reveals that the United States is steadily becoming more progressive
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"In the November election in Virginia, issues well to the left of the “Old Virginia” (read: conservative) mainstream not only failed to hurt Democrats but might even have helped them. Gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe (D) was vocal about his support for expanding Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, while Republican Ken Cuccinelli harped on Obamacare to curry favor with voters unhappy with the law. In the end, of course, McAuliffe won, and there was little evidence that health care hurt him or helped Cuccinelli’s final numbers. In the attorney general’s race, Democrat Mark Herring defied long-standing conventional wisdom and played up his position on gun safety. Herring defeated his opponent by pointing out Republican Mark Obenshain’s weak record on common-sense gun legislation such as comprehensive background checks and closing the gun-show loophole."

The right-wing NRA/ALEC/Koch Brothers agenda is crumbling, and rational Americans are beginning to be not only heard, but felt at the voting booth. The gun lobby's argument that "gun control costs Democrats elections" is no longer valid, and is getting weaker by the day.

GOTV 2014!

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America is becoming more liberal (Original Post) billh58 Jan 2014 OP
It's certainly becoming more concerned about what is good for society, that excludes most gunz. Hoyt Jan 2014 #1
Yay! shenmue Jan 2014 #2
go wendy go (sorta) jimmy the one Jan 2014 #3
He told us last week he wasn't going to deny people their civil rights. ileus Jan 2014 #4
I find it strange billh58 Jan 2014 #5
I've read your proposols and I find them very reasonable. sked14 Jan 2014 #6
pendulum swings jimmy the one Feb 2014 #7
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. It's certainly becoming more concerned about what is good for society, that excludes most gunz.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jan 2014

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
3. go wendy go (sorta)
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:55 AM
Jan 2014
In the November election in Virginia, issues well to the left of the “Old Virginia” (read: conservative) mainstream not only failed to hurt Democrats but might even have helped them.

maybe it will extend to texas, where another decade all them minorities will overpower the white superiority rut: ... in a blazing red state like Texas, what’s an ambitious, take-no-prisoners, left-wing gal to do? Bring out the guns, of course. Last Tuesday, {Wendy, texas abortion filibusteress} Davis hastily “went country,” announcing her plans to strengthen gun rights by supporting, as the Associated Press reported, “legislation that allows workers to keep their guns in their vehicles at work.” Not bad, right? Well, no. Unfortunately for Wendy, similar legislation already passed in 2011—something she should know, as she voted for it at the time. (She also, for the record, pushed for gun control measures as a city councilor in Fort Worth, and told an interviewer last year she would do the same as governor. The NRA has given Davis an “F” grade.)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/01/27/wendy_davis__gun_clinger_121351.html#ixzz2rPzr4JUk


Anytime the nra gives out an F grade I kneejerk react & give the person at least a B.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
4. He told us last week he wasn't going to deny people their civil rights.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:02 AM
Jan 2014

So don't expect many gun bans...

Time will tell if he's a true progressive or not I suppose.

billh58

(6,641 posts)
5. I find it strange
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jan 2014

that Second Amendment absolutists and extremists appear to be the only ones talking about "gun bans" as if they apply to ALL guns, and that calls for gun registration are a forerunner to confiscation. Repeating an NRA scare tactic lie does not make it true.

Again, I would like to remind RKBA absolutists that this safe haven Group is for the discussion of HOW to implement reasonable gun control measures which are within the bounds of the Second Amendment, and not to argue the NEED for gun control.

Thanks for your understanding.

 

sked14

(579 posts)
6. I've read your proposols and I find them very reasonable.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:07 PM
Jan 2014

There has got to be a middle ground here and you seem to have found it, we need to ignore the extremists on both sides and concentrate on what's doable.
Thanks for a sensible voice in the heated debate which often turns into nothing more than I know you are but what am I.

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
7. pendulum swings
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 10:11 AM
Feb 2014
The country is getting more diverse, and as the proportion of white voters shrinks, so, too, does the conservative base. As demographics shift, so do political preferences — in this case, toward the left.

.. part of reason is just the political pendulum swinging as politicians of both sides hit the peter principle's rule of reaching their level of incompetence while serving, but if it hadn't been for republican gerrymandering districts the house could possibly be democrat. It's their rightwing acts of desperation, along with photo ID laws (election violations better handled after the fact, since relatively so few in number).
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