Illinois: Quinn expected to use amendatory veto powers on concealed carry bill

[Robb]

Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn intends to take action Tuesday on legislation that would allow guns to be carried in public, and he's widely expected to insert changes to the bill to try to put in place stricter regulations.

While Quinn would not say Monday what he plans to do with the concealed carry measure, sponsoring Rep. Brandon Phelps said the governor's office told him that Quinn would rewrite the proposal using his amendatory veto powers.

Quinn is a staunch gun-control advocate who has decried the federal appellate court decision that struck down Illinois' long-standing concealed carry ban. The ruling forced lawmakers to strike a compromise to set up rules on who can carry guns and where before a court-ordered deadline expired and left a lack of regulation on the books.

But the legislation lawmakers approved did not include a number of restrictions pushed by Quinn, including a statewide ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's unclear what changes Quinn plans to make, but Phelps said he believed limiting the number of rounds that could be carried in a gun is at the top of the governor's list.

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Other changes Phelps expects Quinn to make include limiting the number of firearms a person could carry to one — the bill has no limit — and requiring that the weapon be completely concealed, not just partially hidden. Phelps said he also believes the governor will ban guns from all places that serve alcohol, not just businesses where booze makes up the majority of sales. The governor also could strip out a provision that would allow people to store a loaded gun in their car and leave it there should they be banned from bringing it into a building.

Read More: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-quinn-gun-bill-0702-20130702,0,5126598.story

[BainsBane]

1. polling showed

people in Southern Illinois who support the bill don't care what Chicago does.

Glad to see the Governor is considering doing something. Murder Inc. is going to be all a tizzy with the news.

[BainsBane]

2. Evidently a veto is now anti-democratic

according to gun folk.

[Bolo Boffin]

3. What the hell is "amendatory veto powers?"

In going to go look that up, but it sounds like a signing statement on steroids. Why have a legislature if the governor can just rewrite the law to suit himself?

http://m.voices.yahoo.com/illinois-con-con-issues-amendatory-veto-power-1996595.html

An amendatory veto must be overridden by a three-fifths vote of both houses, or accepted by a simple majority vote. If the legislature takes no action on an AV, the entire bill dies.

OK, not as bad as I thought, but that's still stinky.

[ceonupe]

4. It won't matter

If the veto override goes thru (most belive it will as the bills passed originally with overwhelming support in both houses) Gov. Quinn will have made his position know but the orginal law will be enacted.

If veto fails and amended version does not pass then the default is concealed carry for all quite possibly due to court ruling.

[Bolo Boffin]

5. OK. Yeah, I looked it up and it's not that he just gets to rewrite the law.

It's a shot to have it his way or the original way. It gives the governor a taste of the powers of a prime minister, almost, because he can force a vote on his preferred legislation. But the legislature can override it. Thanks!