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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:56 AM Feb 2016

Consistent link between violent crime and concealed-carry gun permits

The first study to find a significant relationship between firearm crime and subsequent applications for, and issuance of, concealed-carry gun permits has been published in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence.

The paper, “Firearm Violence and Effects on Concealed Gun Carrying: Large Debate and Small Effects,” found there is a consistent link between violent crime — especially crimes that involve guns — and an increase in the number of people issued carry permits over two time periods examined in the study, said Jeremy Carter, an assistant professor in the School of Public and Environmental Affairs at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis.

While the link is consistent and robust, Carter said the magnitude of this association is relatively low.

“It seems the level of debate surrounding violence and concealed carrying far outweighs any observed effects,” Carter and his co-author, Michael Binder, an assistant professor at the University of North Florida, conclude. “We acknowledge that other factors are just as — if not more — important and highlight the need for more refined research to parse out any plausible relationships.”

“From a theoretical perspective, the finding of firearm crime as a predictor of concealed carrying is the first such demonstrable relationship and provides evidence that should solicit further investigation,” the study says.

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Consistent link between violent crime and concealed-carry gun permits (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2016 OP
I find it interesting monicaangela Feb 2016 #1
shall issue ccw, another bottle of snake oil jimmy the one Mar 2016 #2

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
1. I find it interesting
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:00 AM
Feb 2016

the fact that in this nation we incarcerate more people than any other nation around the world...because of crime...but our legislators will not remove on of the most prevalent causes of violent crime in the nation. I wonder if it has something to do with GREED, you know, Weapons lobbyist, Private Prisons, culling the population because lets face it some of our people sworn to protect and serve who are licensed to carry are committing murder on an almost daily basis. When will all of this stop? I wonder...

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
2. shall issue ccw, another bottle of snake oil
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016
The first study to find a significant relationship between firearm crime and subsequent applications for, and issuance of, concealed-carry gun permits has been published in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence.

Seems like which came first, chicken or egg; does increasing violent crime rate induce increase in ccw, or does ccw induce rising violent crime rates. The study indicates the former, that an increase in the violent crime rate causes an increase in ccw permits.
Also, seems this would tend to hold true for pro gun states, but not as much for the more liberal states such as in new England. On the premise that living in a redder state would indicate people tend pro gun, & armed fantasies therewith.

The research focuses on county-level data from all 67 counties in Florida, which has issued more concealed-carry permits than any other state. As of November 2015, there were 1.6 million valid concealed-carry permits in Florida.
The study measures violent crime using the Uniform Crime Reporting index offenses of violent crime, including homicide, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. The two time periods examined by the study are 2005 to 2012 and 1996 to 2012.


Well, case in point, study does not include 1987 - 1995. Florida enabled shall issue in 1987, and violent crime rate increased ~17% over the next 5 years. Begging the question whether its precipitate shall issue helped at all.
Reminds me of the old time con artist salesmen circa 1900's who sold snake oil to 'cure all that ails ye', and gullible people bought it, turned out to be largely quackery mixed in with some diluted flavored whiskey.
Obtaining a concealed carry permit in hopes of immunizing oneself from increasing violent crime, just another bottle of snake oil, peddled by nra quacks.
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