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Just got an email, completely new here and it says...
You have been blocked from posting in the Hillary Clinton group by Cha. If you believe this is an error, you may contact Cha for more information.
I think I only posted to one Hillary Group thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=92678
And for the most part I have just been trying to have calm source based discussions since it seems all sides are on the edge. I never said anything bad about Hillary in the group, I just wanted to know what the poster was talking about. I think I am too new to send emails to ask questions since it does not let me click on Cha's name to send an email? I don't think I broke any rules at all. Is it even worth it? Or can I just block the Groups so I don't see them in my thread?
Ptah
(33,493 posts)You almost made me think I was crazy for a second there. It does not give me the option, I am sure it has to do with ...
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I am sure I am not at 50 yet and like I said there are no reply options.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Says I am at 22, so now this will make it 23. Not sure If I want to spam up to get to 50. Since most of the news based threads are in general, can I just block the thread feeds so I don't see them under the newest tab? It seems the groups are mostly opinion threads so it would be healthier to just not even have to deal with them.
Loki
(3,826 posts)Why? You have it listed in your groups that you are following. I haven't followed your posts but I would suggest that you continue to post in discussions that you feel you can express your ideas and political interests. By the way, welcome to DU. I've been here since 2001 after the *selection. It's generally a really good place, but it can be difficult to deal with around elections. We are Democrats, after all.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)I wish there were more like you in the HRC group, I had also posted this in the General Primary section since I was not sure if it was primary related since it was about blocking a primary group. Here are some of the responses I got from the HRC group...
Now thats funny!!!!!!!!
So many NEW Hillary haters appearing on DU these days. So many nonposting lurkers suddenly posting. So many NEW MEMBERS becoming 'NAME REMOVED'.
You just got here and you're wanting to shut some things down?
It's a big internet, you might try finding someplace that has nothing but agreement with your perspective.
I was banned from the HRC group and not allowed back in for trying to have a reasoned discussion and telling a person they were getting off topic (not actually responding to my questions). The thread was about Sanders campaign trying to flip delegates, but the wording was thus that did not match any news I has seen. I know Sanders was starting to join in with his supporters calls for the super delegates to reflect the votes of the people of their states, but the post was making it sound like he was talking about getting them to flip regardless of the state's votes. I am not a fan of super delegates at all, I find it a symptom of corruption of power, where people are given a vote worth at least that of 10000-23000 eligible voters based on the state (I divided by three since democrat are on average 30%). The idea of the switching against the will of the people is not something I am a big fan of, even though their use by the press and every website in the vote totals to create a narrative of defeat for all other candidates is horrid in itself.
I had asked where the source was for the story, and I got...
As the pundits, talking heads, reporters, journalists and media wonder how he could possibly envision a path to victory, the Sander's campaign has to conjure imaginary ways to do it - or the money will dry up.
Part of our campaign election reform should include steps to prevent predatory solicitation practices exploiting the gullible and naïve when candidates have actually been eliminated except through fanciful manipulations.
This is corruption on a new scale. It's shameful and disgusting.
It had nothing to do with the question I posed, and I was a bit offensive in tone calling people gullible and naïve responded thusly...
Has anyone actually found if they are talking about wooing delegates even if they did not get the majority in that state? As for path to victory, they have meet the 538 stats so far so it does seem like there is zero reason to quit. I actually wonder if a mud slinging battle would be best? People react to new news and then once they have a chance to parse it they get a more down to earth response. Not sure what the effects of a full all out battle with all candidates would be like. We may get a better informed electorate at the end or fatigue from the political battle could repress voter turn out.
I got this back...
Democratic primary turnout was 70% Democrat, 27% independent.
Hillary won the Democratic portion of the primary. Hillary is standing tall against Republicans, independents, Hillary Haters and other fringe political groups of all manner.
Sanders will never be the Democratic nominee - his inability to answer basic questions about his own platform confirms his own recognition of this fact.
Now it's just about bringing in money for his campaign to continue.
I tried to get it back on topic...
This is about what the Bernie campaign is planning with superdelegates. Also not sure about your claim on her winning the majority of Dems? What are your sources? All I see is a 50/50 split. Did you look at the results before they fixed the couple rather large math errors? (the reason it jumped up to 56.6 for Bernie and only one county for Hillary) One interesting note is 28% of Indies voted for her, perhaps she should figure out what attracted them to her message.
Source:
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/wi/Dem
After that I was instantly banned for telling someone they were going off topic and even after an appeal I was still not allowed back in. (Heck I even provided the link about Indie's voting for her which is a good thing for Hillary, what the fizzlesticks!)
I my appeal to get back in the group I even asked how to block it because maybe it was for the best.
I had nothing against the HRC group, but since I had all feed turned on I was constantly getting their threads that at times were a bit offensive in tone to me (my opinion). Also since I could not respond to any of them even the good ones I really liked and I was getting tired of deleting the offensive ones I decided I just needed to turn them off. I honestly questioned why they would even want to be in a main feed if they block people that don't even break the rules and didn't want any discussion, it just causes people to become more derisive and fractured like the mainstream media where you can only listen and not respond.
Again thank you for the nice response, my mother was a Hillary supporter the last two elections until that Kos article last week, and our whole family had all voted for Bill. (I voted Obama because of the war in 2008, but I also had a college friend that saw his entire squad die in front of his eyes when his transport was destroyed...and every time he accidentally talks about it you see such pain in his eyes as he almost collapses with tears streaming from his eyes)
Loki
(3,826 posts)There has been a lot of name calling and not much reasoned debate, but I have hope that we will return to that once the primary season has ended. I have to ask about the Kos article. It must be something I missed. My 98 year old mom will be voting for Hillary, nothing will keep her from it as well as my husband, our 23 year old son and myself. Our 25 year old daughter supports Bernie, but she has been asking her brother a lot of questions lately, so that makes me think she is starting to pay closer attention to what is really being promised and what can actually be accomplished. I'm really concerned that the cult of personality is just as dangerous for us as it is for the Republican Party. The down ballot race in Wisconsin suffered with the drop off of voters who cast their vote for Bernie and some for Hillary, and allowed a very right wing candidate be appointed to the Wisconsin Supreme Court that is against everything progressives stand for. I'm a realist, a survivor of the 60s and one who experienced the Nixon Rat Fuckers up close in the 1972 election. I survived living in Texas for 16 years as a Democrat, so nothing can or will phase me for this round. Still glad you are here. Keep posting.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Not sure how bad the Bernie group is, the one time I posted for a Bernie guy to tone down I didn't get blocked, and in the post I got blocked on one person mentioned they may go Puma as their fall back (I didn't even hear about them in 2008).
I am sure the recent race stuff would have put them over the edge, my father helped the Black Panthers a little when he was younger and got investigated by the FBI for it...so I am sure he would be upset knowing the some of the people we put in to office help damage the Black community. I know they did not have a problem with drugs (thought they should be legal) and hated the way our black communities were treated by the laws. But the whole Bernie Bro calling supporters racist, which would include me started wearing on them a bunch. We are from the south and know our voice does not count, they know when people were saying the south is electing our president they were talking about areas that sadly almost never get a voice in the general elections (until the day the go to popular votes). They started seeing the news favoring one party, saw Bill blocking the voters (I may have passed them that story under the email title "Bills being a bad boy" . Not sure how my father voted, but my mother and most of her liberal ex hippie hillbilly friends voted for Hillary for two reasons, they wanted a woman (which it is long long long past due) and they were afraid Bernie would lose (I don't know about in Texas, but in Arkansas Democrats are very timid voters for president...they are afraid to do anything that may be called remotely liberal because they will get shot down by the majority conservative population). I think she was realizing that all the polls had been proving that Bernie could beat Trump, and the news was obfuscating it. Then Kos posted that article on the "Social Democrat" that was ranting against Bernie and voting for Hillary. She got it from another site some how, Salon or Stones, that basically called it out on the merits. The Kos article left such a bad feeling in her mouth since it seemed beyond fake (Like a very straight laced cop under cover asking kids where to get the marijuana grass at) that she felt there was too much deception from the HRC camp to be forgiven. I am sure seeing Bill having his discussion with the BLM people is going to be very unpleasant for them. I watched it and I thought he was doing amazing until the end where he doubled down on his views. Bill just needs to admit he was played by the system like so many others. For f@cks sake we have stories about the cops that systematically planted durgs on kids because they were black for 20 some f@cking years. That was starting in 1996, Bill was still president then, argh that upsets me...
http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/12/01/leaked-documents-reveal-dothan-police-department-planted-drugs-on-young-black-men-for-years-district-attorney-doug-valeska-complicit/
http://www.innocenceproject.org/news-events-exonerations/2015/leaked-documents-show-alabama-police-planted-drugs-guns-on-innocent-black-men-in-decades-long-scheme
Thanks again for the reply.
Loki
(3,826 posts)Just an FYI, since the beginning of the campaign launches, we have had an influx of low count posters who come here with only one intent, and that is to disrupt conversations and exchange of ideas and to foment distrust and disinformation between the Sander's and Clinton camps. We have seen this so many times in the past elections, especially in 2008 and even after the 2001 selection. There is an interesting story from the past year from the NYT that I will post a link to and it tells the story that we are all very familiar with. Anything related to Karl Rove involves dirty tricks and sabotage, you can bet the farm on that one. The one good thing that happened while I lived in Texas, was I got to see Tom Delay dethroned and sent to the woodshed. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving toady.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/politics/the-right-aims-at-democrats-on-social-media-to-hit-clinton.html
Also, this week the former Nixon aide admitted that the war on drugs was meant to specifically harm AA communities. Like we didn't know that one either.
On edit: I posted once in the BS group and was banned, it was a very innocuous post, but they want to live in their little bubble, so be it.
That is messed up. I must have been lucky on my post or it was in the general forum where I told the guy to tone down. THen again with your icon, they may have cared less about what you said and just attacked. The groups seem like such a bad idea, or seem to people that ban for bad reasons and create bubble worlds that can only hurt us (like Fox news did before, and all of them seem to do now). I would complain but saw a guy get banned for calling out the group...which is why I tried to be on my best.
I do wonder if there are people on the forums, Whenever there is an attack that seems like a right wing attack, like attacking Hillary for Whitewater (not saying if there is or is not truth in it, but not something someone would attack with unless they had been listening to talk radio too much), attacking Bernie as a Communist or a non democrat, or attack Jane Sanders as is the recent one I do think they may be a plant. That story matches what I have feared, and the shallow lines like the image of Marge in money always bug me like the Pinocchio WaPo ones, they are shallow attacks. That is why I think the groups need better mods, or need to get locked, or hidden, they are the places you will find these people, not in the open where they can have the light shined on them.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Thanks to two users on a thread requesting blocking. If anyone else wants to know how to block a group see below.
immoderate (20,058 posts)
13. To block a group
Click on the folder for the forum you want to block
The button to block the group is in the header
Punch the button.
--imm
"In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." ― Yogi Berra
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Response to northernsouthern (Original post)Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:47 PM
Star Member think (8,569 posts)
14. On the left side you will find the Topic "Democrats" Click on that & then click on Hilllary Clinton
at the top you will see a button to "trash this forum". That will block the feed for you.
You can always go to your account and undo this later.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)The trick to keeping these habitual banners from showing up on your computer screen is the ability to identify them. Do you know which ones they are? I don't and I've been here 12 years.
But the ones that have banned me are the Hillary Group, The Bernie group and the Obama group. These groups can ban you for simply misspelling their name. So you may want to ignore all three of them. But there may be more out there. Hay, if I get banned again I'll tell you which groups are habitual banners. Maybe we can keep a list so we don't waste time reading these silly group's posts.
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northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)I know who banned me, Cha, but I am not sure if that person made the decision or just approved it. Only got one email from said person and they never replied to my question or unbanned me. I have argued with a couple of people on the Bernie thread and if I do get banned they too will get deleted. Have not had an issue on the Obama one yet...but not as many posts there.