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Related: About this forumWhy Men Want to Marry Melanias and Raise Ivankas
This dynamic seems to play out in the Trump family: Mr. Trumps wife is professionally attractive, anecdotally nice and by her own telling fairly traditional, while his elder daughter is a strong, independent and well-educated businesswoman who was mentored by her father and rose to prominence inside his companies. Ivanka has been more publicly involved in the campaign than her stepmother, serving as something of a surrogate spouse to Mr. Trump by defending his treatment of women and emphasizing his good character. And it is Ivanka, not Ms. Trump, who is slated to introduce Mr. Trump as the Republican Party nominee on Thursday night.
This female empowerment narrative of the daughter, not the wife is one Americans are more ready to accept. A man who says hes never changed a diaper and is on his third marriage to a former model may appeal to a resentful male minority, but will look unfamiliar and unappealing in much of the country. A successful child, though thats relatable and desirable. When men have daughters, their attitudes shift and they begin to adhere less stringently to traditional gender roles; no similar effect happens to mothers of girls. Fathers of daughters are also more likely to support reproductive rights than men who dont have girls.
Men have often given their female offspring more opportunities than their female partners, perhaps seeing their children as extensions of themselves. Even today, many men find themselves newly appalled at sexism after having a girl, a reaction apparently not stoked by being born of a woman, married to a woman or simply seeing women as human. In our reluctantly feminist America, one question this election poses is whether weve evolved enough to value women as individuals instead of assessing them relationally, as an attractive wife supporting her husband or as a high-achieving daughter reflecting a flattering light back on her parents.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/opinion/campaign-stops/why-men-want-to-marry-melanias-and-raise-ivankas.html
4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)What Father is going to say their daughter is attractive? That is creepy.
New Flash- "Man marries Woman he finds attractive. " Really?
"A man who says hes never changed a diaper": is either rich, or an asshole, or a rich asshole.
"and is on his third marriage to a former model": See answer above.
So if men raise their Daughters to be smart, strong, and independent but do not "White Knight" these things for their FULLY grown Adult wives we are some how doing society a disservice? Is it not patronizing that a Wife success and failure are eve associated with her Husbands actions (IE: giving her opportunities)?
Yes who would think that a man would have a deeper affection and infinity for his own Daughter vice his Third wife.
Nitram
(24,625 posts)he also praises her intelligence, achievements and values. Trump actually said he'd like to date her if she wasn't his daughter. That goes way over the creepy line.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)is that he finds her bangable.
Nitram
(24,625 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)I hadn't really thought about it, but it does make me think.
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