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Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:36 AM Oct 2013

What Might Occupy’s Nonviolent Militia Look Like?

Over the past few weeks activists with OWS have been reflecting on the last two years of struggle. Some are quick to call out others’ mistakes and lambast each others’ ideas as either too liberal or too crazy. Some people’s thoughts are more reflexive and highlight their own successes and failures. During a discussion over an email list, Justine Tunney, an admin of the Occupwallst.org (which also includes large followers on Twitter and Facebook), proposed diversifying the form for street protest by building an “Occupy Militia.” During the same week at the EcoSocialist Conference in LA, a similar discussion was held about “raising armies” stirred by former Occupy LA participants engaging a panel on electoral reform. Seeing these similar proposals spark conversation in NYC and LA suggests that there are others having analogous ideas in-between the coasts. Here, I explore how Americans perceive talk about militias and juxtapose it to the emergence of the White Overalls brigades in Italy, who managed to tactically innovate during heavy police repression.

In NYC, Tunney called for a “nonviolent militia” that would put their bodies between the protesters and police. The militia would be trained in protest tactics and outfitted with body armor. She estimated that it would take one million dollars to organize, equip, and compensate those willing to put it all on the line. The cash and the militia would crowd sourced. In LA, debate about the extent of the climate crisis prompted activists to discuss building communes to encourage sustainable living practices as well as form an ‘army’ organized with ‘a singular and unified mindset.’

Tunney was met with varied response on the email thread. While some supported this idea, others called it “illegal” and “crazy.” All discussion ended when a moderator asked that the topic be moved to another email list so that those worried about legalities would not leave the group. In LA, the discussion about raising an army devolved into shouting as some griped, “Surely, you do not mean with guns?” and “Are you calling for civil war?” In both cases, the paranoia is certainly related to activists’ use of military-style vocabulary. When the words militia and army arise in serious conversations, common points of reference are visions of bullets, bombs, and death. From the US Army to the Michigan Militia, these words feel ugly to say because of the destruction caused by these groups. But, why do Americans equate the idea of an ‘army’ or ‘militia’ with weapons?

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What Might Occupy’s Nonviolent Militia Look Like? (Original Post) Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2013 OP
I like some of the protest tactics discussed, LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #1
interesting idea.... dtom67 Oct 2013 #2

LuvNewcastle

(17,022 posts)
1. I like some of the protest tactics discussed,
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:45 AM
Oct 2013

especially the use of inner tubes and plastic shields and other barriers to put between protesters and police. That way, protesters can't be accused of attacking cops and cops can't get hold of protesters. I think that could be effective in a lot of places. Ultimately, though, fighting police in the streets is a losing battle because of all the weapons they have at their disposal. If they hit back too hard, though, they'll certainly get a lot of hate from the public.

dtom67

(634 posts)
2. interesting idea....
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:07 AM
Oct 2013

the problem, of course , is the presence of the police state. Any organized activity that included equipment meant to circumvent police tactics would probably be a green light for full blown surveillance.
If such a group were formed, it would be assumed that each member was willing to be arrested in the performance of the groups' actions. With that assumption in mind , I would also assume " guerrilla tactics " as common place. Perhaps small unannounced protests or protests on private property. Imagine a thousand protesters throwing quarts of used motor oil onto David Kochs' front yard!

I'm also assuming that they wouldn't just shoot everyone and bury them in a mass grave.

or maybe this is just conspiracy to commit terrorism.

you know what DHS thinks ....

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