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Related: About this forumIn Deference to Great Men: Aaron Sorkin vs. the Occupy Movement
That is essentially the lesson that Sorkin gave to the Occupy movement through his mouthpiece, the stubborn, but well-intentioned news anchor Will McAvoy. If this sounds ridiculous, that is because it is...
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Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)as a Sorkin substitute. There is nothing in the piece that supports seeing the McAvoy character as a proxy for the author's actual feelings and opinions. McAvoy is a Republican, Sorkin a Democrat. And from there it just goes on and on. If McAvoy sounds stubborn but well intentioned but ridiculous, it is Sorkin who made him sound that way.
In the episode the author references part of the point of the story had to do with the fact that the older and more cynical/pragmatic McAvoy and his producers do not handle the Occupy story well, in fact McAvoy's attack on the Occupy member on air fucks up their contacts for a major story, they lose a lead and will eventually regret this greatly, because they will wind up reporting a false story using their own sources. Younger characters on the show practice a new sort of method which the older and more powerful characters do not understand.
The author of this piece creates the 'Great Man' premise to avoid substantiation of his views of the McAvoy character. The reality of the piece is more complex than this author cares to admit, so he says 'Sorkin does the Great Man thing'. The actual moral centers of this show are women, and female characters are carrying the Sorkin voice far more than McAvoy is.
GeorgeGist
(25,430 posts)I'm too cynical to see "Newsroom" as anything but another Sorkin fantasy.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)But also I just read bluenorthwest's reply #1, so maybe the show is actually a little deeper than this review suggests. I wouldn't know because I haven't seen it.
But in any case, the writer here does a good job of rebutting some of the dumbest anti-occupy arguments that were spewed by cable news windbags during those months -- arguments that continue to be repeated.
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)malthaussen
(17,672 posts)... to believe that anything can be done or achieved without the influence and "leadership" of some "great man" who will stand at the fore, draw all the accolades, and impose his will on his bumbling opponents.
Or in other words, how can anyone in show business even conceive of the utility of a system in which there are no stars?
-- Mal
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)it is difficult to see where Sorkin is taking the OWS story. It appears that with the depiction of Will's shortsightedness re: leaders in a movement, Sorkin is attempting to reveal how badly the MSM missed the whole point of the Occupy movement.
Again, we haven't seen how he intends to resolve this story, but Sorkin has often shown McAvoy as someone that reflects conventional wisdom who can come to regret his initial failings and striven to correct the damage done.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)It has promise but I know nothing more about it. I'm glad the Occupy message is being brought forth for more consideration hopefully in a respectful light. Hopefully we will not become yet another plot point. Thanks for the OP!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)Sorkin's stuff is always well worth watching.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)And the fallout
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)The first does depict the smarmy and dismissive response taken by too many, and some of the specific media behavior and destructive context shifting done to us; for that, the interviewee is sympathetic and some of the insular, self-responding nature of the corporate-owned media aptly depicted. Her heated reaction off-screen...did it truly have to go that far?
The second flatly mentions specific corporate abuse which many may not be aware so that is brilliant.
On a deeper level, it's good the conversation is being had at all as the issue is as fresh today as ever, most unfortunately. I am wary of where it may end; HBO are owned by Time/Warner; take a look at Time/Warner's owners:
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Edit: Thank you for posting it for myself and those not yet familiar!