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erpowers

(9,356 posts)
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 11:40 AM Jan 2017

Lack of a Message and Overconfidence are Reasons Hillary Clinton lost in 2016

I agree with Vice President Joe Biden that Hillary Clinton did not know why she was running for President. I do not think she felt obligated to become the first female president, but I do think she probably ran just because her last name was Clinton. I think her lack of a real reason for running for President caused her to not have a clear message. Yes, she had good ideas and good policies, but not a clear way to explain those policies and ideas.

Overconfidence is the second reason Hillary Clinton did not win the electoral college vote. There were just too many people who believed that Donald Trump could not and would not win the election. Those people thought they did not have to vote for Hillary Clinton. Remember, there were a number of people in blue states who were saying they were not going to vote for Hillary Clinton because they lived in a safe blue state so they could either not vote for President, or they could vote for a third party candidate for President. The problem is too many people refused to vote for Hillary Clinton and as a result Donald Trump won. If the election was held again Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide.

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Lack of a Message and Overconfidence are Reasons Hillary Clinton lost in 2016 (Original Post) erpowers Jan 2017 OP
What were you listening to? rurallib Jan 2017 #1
Milking it to the very end WhiteTara Jan 2017 #2
Please Explain Your Post More erpowers Jan 2017 #6
The 2016 Postmortem Forum Will Close on Friday 1/20 WhiteTara Jan 2017 #7
Biden quote? bettyellen Jan 2017 #3
Here is the Quote erpowers Jan 2017 #9
Time to come together democrank Jan 2017 #4
Another thread ignoring reality. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #5
She had a clear and powerful message and it was largely about job creation. The media refused StevieM Jan 2017 #8

rurallib

(63,166 posts)
1. What were you listening to?
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jan 2017

I heard a very distinct, very democratic message.
But the fucking media refused to carry any of it or give her any time while giving her opponent unlimited airtime and fawning coverage.

erpowers

(9,356 posts)
9. Here is the Quote
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jan 2017

"I don't think she ever really figured it out. And by the way, I think it was really hard for her to decide to run. She thought she had no choice but to run. That, as the first woman who had an opportunity to win the presidency, I think it was a real burden on her."

StevieM

(10,539 posts)
8. She had a clear and powerful message and it was largely about job creation. The media refused
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jan 2017

to cover it. They gave Trump more airtime and they talked endlessly about her emails.

I don't know whether the voters were overconfident, but HRC certainly wasn't. She was fighting for every vote. She even had Al Gore do an event with her in Florida, to remind people how close an election can sometimes be.

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