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Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 08:56 AM Jan 2017

N.Y Times article this morning

"Trump is never going to admit his win was anything but a record-shattering triumph. But his preening, and his whining about being persecuted by the intelligence services, really twists the knife.

Since the election, the media and many Democratic politicians have wrung their hands over their failure to pay attention to the legitimate anger in the Trump-tilting parts of the country. And good for them.

But it’s time to remember that there are about 66 million Clinton voters who have a right to be angry, too."


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/opinion/trump-sex-and-lots-of-whining.html?_r=0

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N.Y Times article this morning (Original Post) Va Lefty Jan 2017 OP
K & Fking R JHan Jan 2017 #1
Ditto SticksnStones Jan 2017 #11
Thank you! kcr Jan 2017 #2
66 million Clinton voters who have a right to be angry, too! UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #3
And those 66 million voters Butterflylady Jan 2017 #8
1 of 66 million here, sister. mobeau69 Jan 2017 #14
+1 ExtraGriz Jan 2017 #23
Welcome to DU!! I expect that he will last for 4 years. Why wouldn't he? Trump is already StevieM Jan 2017 #31
As one of those, I intend to mention that voter total as often as possible. calimary Jan 2017 #33
Very true. gademocrat7 Jan 2017 #4
"Trump, Sex and Whining" would be a great title for an unauthorized Trump biography. yellowcanine Jan 2017 #5
K & R SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #6
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #7
Well, our party didn't exactly rise to the occasion. PatrickforO Jan 2017 #9
The entire State of Wisconsin is a pile of Greybnk48 Jan 2017 #15
Yes, for all those here who posted "Wis. gets what they voted for three times" LakeArenal Jan 2017 #16
100% agreement from down here in Kenosha Big_K Jan 2017 #32
Those confederate flags and swastikas were ALL about jobs, weren't they? ehrnst Jan 2017 #19
Just like "grab 'em by the pussy" was. calimary Jan 2017 #34
This one definitely only cared about fair v free trade issues Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #42
I will reply! cilla4progress Jan 2017 #20
Starting with Reagan? Seriously? needledriver Jan 2017 #22
Guess I don't my history that well. cilla4progress Jan 2017 #24
Certainly. needledriver Jan 2017 #25
Excellent! I try to reread Zinn's PatrickforO Jan 2017 #40
Stealing is OK when the Rs do it and steal big. Do some petty shoplifting, though, Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #26
K&R nt lillypaddle Jan 2017 #10
Love me some Gail Collins. mobeau69 Jan 2017 #12
and the Libertarians and Green Party peeps ain't too thrilled either vlyons Jan 2017 #13
Why wait? CCExile Jan 2017 #29
Welcome to DU, CCExile! calimary Jan 2017 #35
Yes! I don't give a FUCK about Trump voters or their demands! mreilly Jan 2017 #17
Damn right! K&R radical noodle Jan 2017 #18
waiting for the audit to release the tax returns... HopeAgain Jan 2017 #21
Welcome to DU, HopeAgain! calimary Jan 2017 #36
Spot on! LisaM Jan 2017 #27
kick Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #28
I loved this and I wrote a comment to it adigal Jan 2017 #30
The only reason Trump won GETPLANING Jan 2017 #37
about damned time somebody in the press remembers that HRC WON THE POPULAR VOTE, and niyad Jan 2017 #38
Imagine that. 66 million of US Hekate Jan 2017 #39
yes, thank you barbtries Jan 2017 #41

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
3. 66 million Clinton voters who have a right to be angry, too!
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jan 2017

That is very important to remember. We all voted and we did not vote for the Trump pie we are being fed!

ExtraGriz

(488 posts)
23. +1
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jan 2017

Blame it on my ACT-UP years but i would have added "FIGHT".... we didn't give a shit as our friends and family were dead or dieing.

StevieM

(10,540 posts)
31. Welcome to DU!! I expect that he will last for 4 years. Why wouldn't he? Trump is already
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jan 2017

committing impeachable offenses right out in the open.

calimary

(84,310 posts)
33. As one of those, I intend to mention that voter total as often as possible.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 07:27 PM
Jan 2017

I'm NOT letting that one go. NOT.

yellowcanine

(36,337 posts)
5. "Trump, Sex and Whining" would be a great title for an unauthorized Trump biography.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jan 2017

Just sayin.' Feel free to use.

PatrickforO

(15,109 posts)
9. Well, our party didn't exactly rise to the occasion.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:34 AM
Jan 2017

I'm a Clinton voter, and I'm angry that the Democratic party hasn't done a MUCH better job of being a workers party.

You know, I posted an article on here about how Boeing threatened to leave WA unless it was allowed to gobble up its union workers' pensions - you know, STEAL money that the honest workers had bled for, year after year after year? And how the WA Democratic party machine had...............................caved in totally and allowed Boeing to screw these workers?




And you know what??????????????????


NOBODY ON THIS SITE EVEN REPLIED TO IT.


Tone deaf, anyone?

Greybnk48

(10,392 posts)
15. The entire State of Wisconsin is a pile of
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 10:14 AM
Jan 2017

smouldering ashes and the DNC basically said, over and over, "we fart in your general direction." Now Trump will do nationally what we've had done here in Wisconsin, by the Kochs, Bradleys, de Vos family, and the rest of that white trash, and now they're finally paying attention (the DNC).

I really resent the sit back attitude by "our party" that we were forced to suffer with a great big "tough shit." And we're not the only State that was treated that way. I was a Bernie supporter because he spoke to us, sincerely. However, I did support and vote for Hillary like a good little soldier. But my resentment is still strong.

So I hear ya PatrickforO.

LakeArenal

(29,797 posts)
16. Yes, for all those here who posted "Wis. gets what they voted for three times"
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 10:43 AM
Jan 2017

Now it will happen to the rest of the US.. Not that that is any comfort for sure. I also was a Bernie supporter who dutifully voted for Clinton. As I dutifully voted against Walker time after time.

Big_K

(237 posts)
32. 100% agreement from down here in Kenosha
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

Paul Ryan's district.

Sigh.........................................

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Those confederate flags and swastikas were ALL about jobs, weren't they?
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jan 2017

And the TPP and Wall Street....

cilla4progress

(25,901 posts)
20. I will reply!
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:28 AM
Jan 2017


I agree. The degradation of unions starting with Raygun is shameful and can be pointed to for the beginning of the end for the middle class


I don't know why progressives are asleep at the wheel on these issues at times? Or more likely it's simply that the forces of greed, regression, and concentration of wealth and power just take such gargantuan continuing effort to stave off... it's a full time job in itself...most people don't have the time or energy. They've successfully turned us from citizens into consumers...of cheap toxic Chinese junk.

I became woke on worker's unions reading Zinn's A People's History. Should be required reading.

Thanks for your post.
 

needledriver

(836 posts)
22. Starting with Reagan? Seriously?
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jan 2017

Taft-Hartley was passed by a Republican congress over President Truman's veto. And we wonder why union membership started to decline in the 1950s.

cilla4progress

(25,901 posts)
24. Guess I don't my history that well.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jan 2017

Would you agree that Raygun amped it up in his middle finger to the air traffic controllers?

 

needledriver

(836 posts)
25. Certainly.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jan 2017

He had the gall to claim that he was the only presidential candidate who had ever been president of a union.

Which is true - he was president of the Screen Actors Guild.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,026 posts)
26. Stealing is OK when the Rs do it and steal big. Do some petty shoplifting, though,
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jan 2017

you just might get shot.

Our country has been co-opted by the 1%.

I'm certainly not excusing the Dems for caving in so many cases, but I wonder what the reality is in terms of how much they really can resist the powers that be. I think they could do more, be stronger, but I don't know exactly what they're up against.

mobeau69

(11,587 posts)
12. Love me some Gail Collins.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jan 2017

She once wrote "He's (donald dick) everything your mother told you not to be."

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. and the Libertarians and Green Party peeps ain't too thrilled either
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 10:00 AM
Jan 2017

As Traitor Trump and his criminal pals try to lead this country down a rat hole of filth, we are, all of us paying attention. Once the Republicans get finished destroying the middle class and selling off everything of value, a whole lot of hurt and chaos will descend on this country.

Let's stop playing nice and call them what they are - criminals.

calimary

(84,310 posts)
35. Welcome to DU, CCExile!
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 07:36 PM
Jan 2017

YES. YES! Why wait? No reason I can see! Hey, did James Comey wait? As conventions and the expert advice of HIS BOSS made clear he should do? No! Since he didn't wait, neither should we. Good for the goose? Then good for the gander, too.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
17. Yes! I don't give a FUCK about Trump voters or their demands!
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jan 2017

76% of elegible voters chose not to vote for Trump. The other 24% are sniveling racist crybabies whining that it's not always about them 100% of the time. Fuck them and their infantile demands. I'm working with the 76%.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
21. waiting for the audit to release the tax returns...
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:02 PM
Jan 2017

(and its friends call it Gadot).

I love that line. In fact, this whole surreal scenario feels like something out of existentialist literature.

I brag, therefore I am...

calimary

(84,310 posts)
36. Welcome to DU, HopeAgain!
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jan 2017

Well, it looks as though we'll be waiting til Doomsday, since he's now declared he will NEVER release his tax returns.

This is such a horribly sucky precedent (fitting - for a horribly sucky so-called "pResident&quot - because future Mitt Romneys and the rest of 'ems who'd rather not have to show everything can point to him and say "SEE? HE didn't do it and he went all the way to the top. So why should I?" Or as my friend the GOP loyalist insisted to me - "there is no LAW that a candidate has to produce his/her tax returns..." Well, I don't give a fuck about whether there's a law or not. It's a long-running, long-understood, and long-complied-with convention that candidates do so, for transparency's sake, so it's all out in the open what kinds of conflicts or funky stuff or corner-cutting may be in there that will - repeat - WILL (not would. WILL) compromise a potential Commander-in-Chief.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
30. I loved this and I wrote a comment to it
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:37 PM
Jan 2017

I am furious, and I will be heard.
I'm going to the Million Women March and I hope others are too.

GETPLANING

(846 posts)
37. The only reason Trump won
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jan 2017

was Interstate Crosscheck. Period. He is not a legitimate president. Look at what has happened since the election. Congressional Republicans have launched their agenda, Trump doesn't have a clue what they are up to. Historians will come to refer to this as the Business Coup of 2016.

niyad

(119,893 posts)
38. about damned time somebody in the press remembers that HRC WON THE POPULAR VOTE, and
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jan 2017

we all got screwed.

barbtries

(29,777 posts)
41. yes, thank you
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:17 AM
Jan 2017

i am sick of being told to be understanding of these people many of whom are crowing as they drag us all down. maybe it's time they start to understand us. but it's hopeless; they have no empathy and they don't care about anyone but themselves and their own. apparently this lack of empathy is so ingrained that they think it's normal and attribute it to everyone else, so that our grief and angst at this catastrophic turn of events is construed as a simple temper tantrum.

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