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BBC: there is more compromising material on Trump, several sex tapes + audio - multiple sources. (Original Post) factfinder_77 Jan 2017 OP
Bring it on! flamingdem Jan 2017 #1
Question hollowdweller Jan 2017 #2
Good question:Trump has been in russia several times. - Long Romance With Russia factfinder_77 Jan 2017 #4
Release the damn tapes already. Tired of rumors. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #3
The allegation is that Russia has the tapes. LisaL Jan 2017 #6
I understand. I guess my hope is that someone who is anti-Trump has access. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #7
I think they will later after Trump is deposed just to sow more conflict and ridicule. Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #16
I'm hoping that whoever archived them Mr. Evil Jan 2017 #24
I just have a feeling that if anything is ever going to be released at all kcr Jan 2017 #15
I'm still waiting for someone to release the Apprentice tapes . . . EffieBlack Jan 2017 #25
These aren't just 1/2 ass rumors. They are warnings. These are covert messages AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #27
I'm sure Wikileaks will be all over that! True Dough Jan 2017 #51
Is there a reason to release the tapes? GeoWilliam750 Jan 2017 #55
K&R sheshe2 Jan 2017 #5
they need to put up Skittles Jan 2017 #8
Yeah, what happened to that? C Moon Jan 2017 #11
my guess is, he is waiting for someone else to go first Skittles Jan 2017 #12
Roll it out quickly. democratisphere Jan 2017 #9
Sniffles will probably get ahold of the tapes elmac Jan 2017 #10
Pretty sure i'll never stay at the Ritz Carlton Moscow now. miyazaki Jan 2017 #13
A week to get one out... lame54 Jan 2017 #14
If they actually exist, they will come out Loge23 Jan 2017 #17
I don't believe we'll see the tapes. Qutzupalotl Jan 2017 #18
What type of sex tapes would actually embarrass Trump? NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #19
There's only one thing that would embarrass the short fingered vulgarian Brother Buzz Jan 2017 #23
The audio was him bragging about sexual assault. A video of him doing embarrasing stuff Amaryllis Jan 2017 #52
well, if there are additional audio/video tapes out there NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #54
Fuck this. We needed this shit before the election Thrill Jan 2017 #20
"Bring it on" oasis Jan 2017 #21
Well we know Trump. He'll just deny and call everyone a liar liar liar. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #22
It was . . . Richard D Jan 2017 #28
bring it on MFM008 Jan 2017 #26
Well I hope they aren't in Al Capone's vault next to the "real" Obama birth certificate jberryhill Jan 2017 #29
Chris Christie was too ethical for this bunch. Just think on that one for a minute. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #31
Christie was instrumental in putting President-in-law Jared Kushner's felonious father behind bars. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #42
Of course there is....Where there is smoke, there is fire. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #30
Please find that tape of him being with a man kimbutgar Jan 2017 #37
Please find the tape of him molesting a little boy meow2u3 Jan 2017 #38
If he swings both ways it is likely with himself. LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #45
You mean for the multiple personalities? AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #47
As someone has said here, what difference does it make? Trump has already proven himself to be Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #32
As others have alluded to renegade000 Jan 2017 #41
No wonder dump is tweeting up an anti-twitter storm denying it. Cha Jan 2017 #33
Drip, drip, drip..... MaeScott Jan 2017 #34
Trump is a classic sociopath who is also a sexual deviant Johnny2X2X Jan 2017 #35
I see his supporters shrugging this off kimbutgar Jan 2017 #36
But remember his supporters do not make up the majority of voters Grammy23 Jan 2017 #39
Thank You Britain! We need allies now. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #40
According to the dosier: The tapes go back sveral years..2013 magical year... factfinder_77 Jan 2017 #43
I sure hope the videos show the prostitutes laughing at him for being impotent!! Lucky Luciano Jan 2017 #44
treason. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #46
knr triron Jan 2017 #48
Bring it on, PLEASE! K&R VOX Jan 2017 #49
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #50
So DO something about it already meadowlark5 Jan 2017 #53
 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
2. Question
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 11:00 PM
Jan 2017

So has Trump ever actually stayed in those cities? Has he ever stayed in the same room where Obama stayed? I mean is there actually any chance this could be true?

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
4. Good question:Trump has been in russia several times. - Long Romance With Russia
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 11:08 PM
Jan 2017
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-03-15/trump-s-long-romance-with-russia

What Trump rarely talks about is his decades-long effort to do business in the Soviet Union and post-Soviet Russia. Good U.S.-Russian relations are potentially very lucrative for the Trump Organization. The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

In the 1980s, Trump was often seen on news shows offering his services to negotiate with the Soviets. "Why don’t you negotiate the SALT talks for Reagan, Donald?” a man on the street once yelled at Trump, according to a 1990 profile of Donald and Ivana Trump in Vanity Fair. In 1987, Trump traveled to Moscow and Leningrad to discuss building hotels there. He even met with the Soviet ambassador to the U.S.

"It's a totally interesting place,” Trump said at the time. “I think the Soviet Union is really making an effort to cooperate in the sense of dealing openly with other nations and in opening up the country."

In a 1997 New Yorker profile, Trump talked about his trips to Russia to explore having the Trump Organization take part in skyscraper and hotel development projects in Moscow, including the reconstruction of the Moskva and Rossiya Hotels.



Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. Release the damn tapes already. Tired of rumors.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 11:02 PM
Jan 2017

Of course, they won't be aired on TV, but if they're released and appear on the Internet, the media will start talking openly about them and the implications of blackmail.

But if all we ever hear are rumors that Trump will continue to deny, we're nowhere.

LisaL

(46,668 posts)
6. The allegation is that Russia has the tapes.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 11:23 PM
Jan 2017

So who do you expect is going to release the alleged tapes?
If these tapes exist, there is no motive right now for Russia to release them.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
7. I understand. I guess my hope is that someone who is anti-Trump has access.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 11:34 PM
Jan 2017

But not even his alleged reality TV show tapes have been released, so I'm not all that hopeful tapes controlled by Putin will be released.

If nothing else, an intelligence agency official could release some solid information.

Mr. Evil

(2,995 posts)
24. I'm hoping that whoever archived them
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:24 PM
Jan 2017

also thought to make copies and secured them away from any government control... just in case.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
15. I just have a feeling that if anything is ever going to be released at all
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:41 AM
Jan 2017

it won't be till after he's sworn in, or we would have seen it by now.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
27. These aren't just 1/2 ass rumors. They are warnings. These are covert messages
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:59 PM
Jan 2017

Entities are speaking to each other. We just don't have the decoder ring.

True Dough

(20,596 posts)
51. I'm sure Wikileaks will be all over that!
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 04:52 PM
Jan 2017


But seriously, where's Anonymous? I realize that group is a splintered and fractured bunch of "hactivists," but I wish they could make a breakthrough on this (as well as Drumpf's taxes).

GeoWilliam750

(2,540 posts)
55. Is there a reason to release the tapes?
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:03 AM
Jan 2017

Part of America will believe that the tapes exist; part of America will believe it is a lie. If America turns upon itself, and is divided against itself, Putin has won.

Thus, whether the tapes actually exist or not, is completely irrelevant. It would be hardly strange for rumours of many more tapes to come out, as well as questionable past relations with many things Russian. There is every incentive to keep the pot boiling without actually releasing any evidence.

To simply sow doubt, distrust, and hatred between Americans would seen a major win for Russia.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
10. Sniffles will probably get ahold of the tapes
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:38 AM
Jan 2017

and sell them as pay per view on various cable networks.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
17. If they actually exist, they will come out
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jan 2017

There no way that some enterprising scoundrel will pass on the opportunity to bring down the POTUS.
..and if trump continues to escalate his tiff with the IC, that possibility will become much more realistic.
Spies trade secrets like kids used to trade baseball cards.
Can't look too far ahead, but then we'll have our hands full with Ayatollah Pence.

Qutzupalotl

(15,159 posts)
18. I don't believe we'll see the tapes.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:22 PM
Jan 2017

They are too important to Putin, who would lose leverage if they "leak." Just having the story in the media lowers their value to him.

You can bet the tapes are in the FSB under lock and key. Only agents would have access, and none will be willing to risk their life to piss off Putin.

NewJeffCT

(56,840 posts)
19. What type of sex tapes would actually embarrass Trump?
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jan 2017

embarrass him enough to be blackmail-able? "Grab 'em by the pussy" only hurt him temporarily and did not cause him to drop out of the race.

I think some speculation would be in order.

Trump in diapers? Trump beating/abusing a woman? Trump being beaten by a dominatrix?

Amaryllis

(9,819 posts)
52. The audio was him bragging about sexual assault. A video of him doing embarrasing stuff
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jan 2017

would be a different story.

NewJeffCT

(56,840 posts)
54. well, if there are additional audio/video tapes out there
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 05:14 PM
Jan 2017

as some European & Israeli intelligence agencies say, it could be worse than that... underage girls and/or a girl or woman that was sent to his hotel room that had been through a child trafficking ring could be big. ("she didn't look 12&quot

If he beat women, it could be big as well.





 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
22. Well we know Trump. He'll just deny and call everyone a liar liar liar.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jan 2017

If people make these allegations and don't put forth the tapes, then we got nothing. I agree with the above, why wasn't this made transparent before the election?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. Well I hope they aren't in Al Capone's vault next to the "real" Obama birth certificate
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 10:39 PM
Jan 2017

But as long as they are useful to the Russians, then they will remain that way.

The "you want nice Russian girl" thing was a staple of KGB and Russian Mafia hi-jinks going all the way back the Cold War. Any American business person with minimal briefing would know this.

Putin was head of the KGB, for crying out loud. What he has done by merging the Russian criminal element and its interests into what is essentially Russian national interest, and bringing the Russian Orthodox Church along for the ride has put him right up there with Peter the Great.

He directly drew that connection between himself and Peter the Great in the Sochi Olympics opening ceremony.

They have got Donald and his whole crew just where they want them.

Chris Christie was too ethical for this bunch. Just think on that one for a minute.
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
31. Chris Christie was too ethical for this bunch. Just think on that one for a minute.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:21 PM
Jan 2017

I thought about that for exactly one minute and my mind drew the sort of weird blank one gets after pondering a Zen koan.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,036 posts)
42. Christie was instrumental in putting President-in-law Jared Kushner's felonious father behind bars.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 02:02 AM
Jan 2017

Excluding Christie from the Rape & Pillage Party's major coup is about vengance in that arena.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
30. Of course there is....Where there is smoke, there is fire.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:05 PM
Jan 2017

Hell, at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if Trump swings both ways and there is video of it. Ha! Wouldn't that be something!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,036 posts)
32. As someone has said here, what difference does it make? Trump has already proven himself to be
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:26 AM
Jan 2017

a crass, intemperate, racist, misogynistic, lying, cheating, thieving bully and his supporters are still there for him. What will it matter if multiple recordings prove him to be more of the same?

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
41. As others have alluded to
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:18 PM
Jan 2017

the tapes would likely confirm that he has small hands... which for a narcissist like him...well

Johnny2X2X

(21,834 posts)
35. Trump is a classic sociopath who is also a sexual deviant
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jan 2017

I have little doubt there is evidence of absolutely disgusting behavior from Trump. He is all about dominating and degrading others, his appetites surely reflect this. And he's probably physically harmed young women, maybe even killed one for kicks. We are dealing with evil.

Grammy23

(5,909 posts)
39. But remember his supporters do not make up the majority of voters
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:25 PM
Jan 2017

and since the election his approval numbers have sunk. So that means even some of his boot lickers are starting to get the drift that their man is not what they thought he was. Of course, he will have some of his faithful followers who believe until he is run out of DC, but once the tide turns he is toast. And there is not much he can do to restore his followers after the Russians or whomever has the tapes puts them out publicly. The emperor really will be naked before the world. Now somebody get me some bleach for my eyes....

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
53. So DO something about it already
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jan 2017

I'm tired of getting all of these reports. Until they are released, they mean nothing.

And - if they wait until after Friday, releasing anything from any credible source (like CIA or any other govt agency) will be next to impossible once Trump is sworn in.

A lot of talk and speculation does nothing, means nothing. Put up or shut up about it already because it does nothing but draw attention away from the real horrors of Trump and his mob family.

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