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UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:01 AM Jan 2017

Intel Expert: Trump 'One Step Away From Treason'

Malcolm Nance took to Twitter today to slam Donald Trump after the torrent of love from Trump to Julian Assange and Putin.

1. Held my suspicions but now convinced Trump is fully aware that both Russian intelligence & Assange elected him. Praise=Pay back.

2. Trump was an unwitting Russian asset until July 27th when he asked for Clinton emails he acknowldgd they were working in his interest.

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/intel-expert-trump-one-step-away-treason


Have Trump put under oath and testify officially.

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Intel Expert: Trump 'One Step Away From Treason' (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jan 2017 OP
"... giving aide and comfort...", I don't know what else to describe this shit uponit7771 Jan 2017 #1
Nance wants to nail his ass. I saw him on TV talking about the perfect personality to compromise. PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #2
TRUMP. IS. A. RUSSIAN. ASSET... Raster Jan 2017 #3
My thoughts exactly True_Blue Jan 2017 #8
*wins* the internet. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #10
... treestar Jan 2017 #19
That's a keeper. CentralMass Jan 2017 #26
A modern day Manchurian Candidate.. pangaia Jan 2017 #28
Well, I hope he crosses that trip-wire before January 20th. n/t woodsprite Jan 2017 #4
+1 2naSalit Jan 2017 #5
One step away from treason? meow2u3 Jan 2017 #6
Yep. I have little doubt he already crossed the line. GoCubsGo Jan 2017 #9
knr triron Jan 2017 #7
I think he's stepped well over that line. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #11
One step away only triron Jan 2017 #12
Do you support Democrats in Congress introducing a formal declaration of war against Russia? onenote Jan 2017 #13
The United States cannot go to war with Russia, First the GOP has to admit the US is under attack UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #14
That doesn't answer the question onenote Jan 2017 #15
Ok, we'll just go with sediton then. Treason is next. brush Jan 2017 #31
knr triron Jan 2017 #16
Why isn't he up over his eyeballs in Treason? Cha Jan 2017 #17
The media is complicit triron Jan 2017 #18
Because Treason has a very specific, very narrow Constitutional definition onenote Jan 2017 #21
Thanks Cha Jan 2017 #22
Thanks for this triron Jan 2017 #23
There absolutely needs to be a full investigation and charges brought if Trump is shown to have onenote Jan 2017 #24
Thanks onenote yodermon Jan 2017 #29
Gadahn actually wasn't convicted. He was indicted in absentia onenote Jan 2017 #33
We'll settle for sedition then. brush Jan 2017 #32
How is that different from treason legally? triron Jan 2017 #34
Sedition is doing or saying something to overthrow established authority very serious. Treason ... brush Jan 2017 #35
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #20
+1 triron Jan 2017 #25
But there will be no one to prosecute the orange turd. liberal N proud Jan 2017 #27
THAT is his intent... pangaia Jan 2017 #30
And that step is more like a very short ramp with a low slope. tanyev Jan 2017 #36
Trump seems to always escape punishment UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #37
Charmed? triron Jan 2017 #38
knr triron Jan 2017 #39

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
2. Nance wants to nail his ass. I saw him on TV talking about the perfect personality to compromise.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jan 2017

Stooge DJT fits the bill, like putty in Pooty's hands. Nance wants the tax returns now!

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
12. One step away only
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jan 2017

in terms of not being in a declared war
which only Russia apparently declared
but we (congress, MSM) pretend not there.

onenote

(44,621 posts)
13. Do you support Democrats in Congress introducing a formal declaration of war against Russia?
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jan 2017

And demanding that all diplomatic relations with Russia be severed?

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
14. The United States cannot go to war with Russia, First the GOP has to admit the US is under attack
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:04 PM
Jan 2017

You have half the country still not believing the Trump deception.

The Democratic members of congress are going to be steamrolled by the Trump administration with GOP helpers.

onenote

(44,621 posts)
15. That doesn't answer the question
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:48 PM
Jan 2017

There is nothing that would prevent Democratic members of the House and Senate from introducing a resolution formally declaring war on Russia.

For Trump to fit the Constitutional definition of a traitor, he must either have been levying actual war (i.e., taking up arms) against the United States. Or he must have been giving aid and comfort to an enemy. While enemy is not defined in the Constitution, it is defined elsewhere in the United States Code: the term "enemy" means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States." The term "hostilities" is defined as "any conflict subject to the laws of war."

So if you want to go after Trump for "treason" the first step is for the US to make Russia an enemy for purpose of the treason clause by engaging in a conflict subject to the laws of war. And the clearest way to do that is for Congress to declare that a state of war exists with Russia.

I should add that a question that has been debated without clear resolution is whether a president could veto a declaration of war...

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
18. The media is complicit
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 06:37 PM
Jan 2017

Dem response seems wimpy to me regardless.
Republican leadership is obstructing big time!

onenote

(44,621 posts)
21. Because Treason has a very specific, very narrow Constitutional definition
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jan 2017

Something that is important to those of us who have been labeled traitors in the past for refusing to serve in the Vietnam War, or counseling others not to serve, or even for protesting the war and blocking the entrance to military bases etc.

Crimes likely were committed by the Russians and it would be no surprise if Trump was somehow complicit in those crimes. But whatever his participation was in those crimes, it won't constitute treason under the Constitution.

I've explained it elsewhere, for those that care.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8416159

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2671875


 

triron

(22,240 posts)
23. Thanks for this
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:12 PM
Jan 2017

But seems he is likely guilty of some law (perhaps the Logan act?) and could be shown by a thorough investigation?

onenote

(44,621 posts)
24. There absolutely needs to be a full investigation and charges brought if Trump is shown to have
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jan 2017

participated in criminal activity. The history of Logan Act prosecutions makes it an unlikely vehicle for charges against Trump.

onenote

(44,621 posts)
33. Gadahn actually wasn't convicted. He was indicted in absentia
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:29 PM
Jan 2017

and then killed by a drone while in Pakistan.

brush

(57,477 posts)
35. Sedition is doing or saying something to overthrow established authority very serious. Treason ...
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:14 PM
Jan 2017

is even more serious. It overlaps with sedition in doing and saying things to overthrow the government and adds working with a foreign enemy.

Treason is punishable by death, don't know about for sedition.

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