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I think we're really well-positioned (Original Post) cilla4progress Jan 2017 OP
You realize that they will be 71 and 79 years old respectively? LisaM Jan 2017 #1
Let please keep Ageism out of the discussion. Joe941 Jan 2017 #15
Oh for heavens' sake. LisaM Jan 2017 #19
I like your thinking, and your positioning. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #2
If I were you I would stop worrying about 2020, pangaia Jan 2017 #3
Fuck 2020...what is wrong with folks obsession with the presidency Dream Girl Jan 2017 #4
OK, Dream Girl cilla4progress Jan 2017 #5
No. Too old. EL34x4 Jan 2017 #6
I know.... cilla4progress Jan 2017 #7
Ridiculous. MoonRiver Jan 2017 #8
It's not just the age of the body that matters! cilla4progress Jan 2017 #9
There are many great, and young, potential candidates out there. MoonRiver Jan 2017 #10
Please share! cilla4progress Jan 2017 #11
Corey Booker, Kristen Gillabrand, and Kamala Harris for starters. eom MoonRiver Jan 2017 #13
Yes - cilla4progress Jan 2017 #17
Ageism! Joe941 Jan 2017 #16
Realityism MoonRiver Jan 2017 #18
Nope. nt LexVegas Jan 2017 #12
Non-starter. The country just leaned right (or leaned stupid) either way Persondem Jan 2017 #14

LisaM

(28,564 posts)
1. You realize that they will be 71 and 79 years old respectively?
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jan 2017

They obviously are very vital and I was especially surprised to learn that EW is 67 (I would have easily placed her 10 years or more younger), but that's a pretty old ticket.

LisaM

(28,564 posts)
19. Oh for heavens' sake.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jan 2017

I just don't see it as a balanced ticket. Anyway, Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat again.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
3. If I were you I would stop worrying about 2020,
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 08:26 PM
Jan 2017

and start worrying about tomorrow and Jan 20, 2017...

There may BE no 2020!!

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
4. Fuck 2020...what is wrong with folks obsession with the presidency
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 08:33 PM
Jan 2017

Are warren and Sanders going to come to the rescue and sprinkle magic fairy dust on everything? Do the mayhem and misery fought by the republicans and Trump. What about local and state elections.? Congress...2018. Sometimes the naïveté is simply astounding.

cilla4progress

(25,862 posts)
5. OK, Dream Girl
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 08:58 PM
Jan 2017

I'll bite.

1) Looking for something hopeful and positive to look forward to. Not mutually exclusive with attention to present electoral politics.

2) Not said but implied if you have intuition is that these are the national leaders of the Dem party NOW, with statuture to head our ticket in 2020. They will lead our opposition on a federal level to trump NOW.

3) We are all essentially on the same side. I choose to try to be nice.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
6. No. Too old.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:40 AM
Jan 2017

We need fresh faces, younger, with stamina and energy. After Trump, America will have likely soured on Baby Boomer leadership anyways. It's time to pass off the baton to a younger generation.

And this is where losing a thousand seats at the state level is going to bite us in the ass as the GOP fills their ranks with hungry, young lawmakers in their 20s and 30s who are now building the networks and campaign machines they'll use to pursue higher office.

cilla4progress

(25,862 posts)
7. I know....
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:53 AM
Jan 2017

I shudder a little when I hear Schumer talk and make his lame puns. I hope Keith Ellison becomes DNC Chair.

Who do you see as the up and comers in the Dem party?

cilla4progress

(25,862 posts)
9. It's not just the age of the body that matters!
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:00 AM
Jan 2017

I hear you, but...do you hear anyone but Bernie challenging our very economic system of capitalism? He successfully rallied millennials around his radical ideologies, specifically, socialism.

Think of Mandela, Gandhi ... it doesn't take youth alone to harness great change.

MoonRiver

(36,974 posts)
10. There are many great, and young, potential candidates out there.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jan 2017

Age DOES matter, and I say this as someone who is closer to 70 than 60.

Persondem

(2,085 posts)
14. Non-starter. The country just leaned right (or leaned stupid) either way
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jan 2017

pedantic lefties are not the answer.

I do want them to be involved in the national conversation pulling things leftward and shining lights on GOP lunacy (witness Sanders yesterday with Trump's medicare/SS tweet), but they are ill suited to winning a national election.

Besides, Democrats have a tough map in 2018; we need focus and energy on those races or we could be looking at another midterm disaster.

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