Hillary .... Fighting for the 99%

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In a rare post-election tweet, Hillary Clinton says she's "delighted" by New York governor Andrew Cuomo's proposal to offer free college tuition to students of families making under $125,000 a year.

http://thehill.com/homenews/312596-hillary-clinton-backs-cuomos-free-tuition-plan

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[oasis]

1. ImStillWithHer.

[pbmus]

3. 110%....

[HopeAgain]

21. Thats fine, now let's move on.

it's simply not about Hillary anymore. if we keep her in the conversation, the Repubs will respond to all Trump criticism as if there's still a campaign going on and do same ole dodge by deflection. I have no interest in the moot discussion of Hillary v. Trump.

Now when I discuss Trump with a supporter, I ask "Yes I know how you hate Hillary. But can you defend, without considering Hillary who is now out of the picture, Trump's (insert stupid Trump thing here)? Turns out most of them haven't any justification for his stupidness when they can't just say he's better than Clinton.

[BainsBane]

34. No, it's about Bernie 24/7

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How dare anyone mention the Democratic nominee when we are supposed to be idolizing Bernie?

[HopeAgain]

40. Not about Bernie for me, its about moving on from the 2016 election cluster f*ck

You mean the FORMER Democratic Nominee? Hillary lost to a human nightmare and we need to at least admit she was not the answer. I doubt the answer is Bernie, but we either make some changes or go extinct.

[triron]

2. Good to hear from Her!

[HoneyBadger]

4. $125k is an odd cutoff for NY

I could see it as a national cutoff, but in NYC $199k for a family of 4 qualifies you for rent control and $175k occasionally for subsidized city housing lotteries.

[onecaliberal]

5. The neediest folks will easily qualify.

Hoping California will follow suit

[George II]

16. All of New York STATE is included, not just the NYC. Not many families...

...north of the metropolitan area that are as high as $175-199K.

And those dollar limits are for rent stabilized apartments, not rent controlled apartments, two entirely different things.

[HoneyBadger]

38. NY is really NYC with a little NYS

That is who runs things. Stabilized vs controlled is a valid distinction, you are right, but as far as them being entirely different, it is not apples vs oranges, more like Fuji vs Honey Crisp, they both fall under rent regulated.

[George II]

42. If that were true we wouldn't have a republican majority in the NYS Senate or...

...have had to deal with the likes of George Pataki for 12 years and Al D'Amato for 18 years.

Here's an interesting map of NYS from the recent election:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_York_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg

Even Suffolk County has historically gone republican in elections.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. $125k out side city is still a lot of money

[FreakinDJ]

6. OK - its snowing in Hell now

All I remember is Hillary saying something about Unicorns and Bernie was completely unrealistic for even suggesting such a thing.

But just to be "Factual" here

No where in that article did it suggest or state Hillary was fighting for the 99%

Ok, ok ... I concede .. She might be in fact fighting for them just a little bit - But no way in Hell are they getting one of those speeches

[triron]

7. This is an unfair and uncalled for jab

at Hillary imo. Perhaps I am misreading you.

[SaschaHM]

10. Nope.

They're just being petty and conflating what the federal government can realistically do with a republican controlled house and what a Democratically controlled state can do with amenable houses. I can't remember whether Bernie was running for Gov of NY or for President.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

30. It's also dumb and incorrect, as this proposal has an income limit

Which were central to all her college arguments

[FreakinDJ]

46. Point being the anouncement was made with Bernie Sanders not HRC

and the thread was titled "Hillary fighting for the 1%"

Stupid

Petty

Factually inaccurate

YES

It was Bernie Sanders making the announcement and Bernie Sanders accredited with fighting for the 1%

and its President Elect Donald Trump

The sooner folks accept reality the sooner meaningful progress can be made to take back our country

[SaschaHM]

9. Petty. nt.

[Tavarious Jackson]

12. perhaps Vermont should take note and follow?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. Cuomo is enacting a Hillary plan for college

With income restrictions not a Bernie plan

Maybe try to remember their actual plans

[George II]

14. Is there anywhere you can direct us to this quote or sentiment:

"All I remember is Hillary saying something about Unicorns and Bernie was completely unrealistic for even suggesting such a thing."

[George II]

19. Clinton is a NYS resident, has been for 16 years. This is a New York STATE proposal by Cuomo.

Perhaps Senator Sanders should be up in Vermont proposing such a program in HIS state?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

29. Yup. Plus we love here in ny, which is why she beat sanders so handily here

[Tatiana]

33. Let's just embrace the change, shall we?

There are many people who started off on the wrong side of an issue, only to come around to the right side sometime later. We should encourage people to manifest this type of change.

[BainsBane]

36. That would require actually caring about education

As opposed to personality. There is a reason we see dozens of threads a day about certain individuals and few about issues or policy.

[BainsBane]

35. Too bad you didn't bother reading

Her policy positions on education. That's no ones responsibility but your own. As she said repeatedly during the debates, the main difference between her and Sanders was that she didn't believe middle class tax payers should pay for the education of the wealthy. Her proposal was debt free public college for incomes up to $250k and tuition free community college.

She isn't giving a speech? So how can she possibly support the 99% when she isn't on TV or giving arena speeches? She also didn't swoop in to take credit for a NY State law she had nothing to do with passing.

It's telling that your definion of fighting revolves around giving a speech to fans. That bill became law through hard work by lawmakers and citizens of NY, not because of a speech in a stadium. Your standards are too low.

[betsuni]

37. I thought the speech remark was a weak attempt to insinuate that Hillary only gives speeches

to the 1% on Wall St. or wealthy donors, so the 99% would never hear her speeches.

By the way, I've figured something out. I thought it strange the way Hillary is blamed for things Bill did as president, but now I understand that Bill/Hillary is one entity: the dreaded Clinton Machine. They are not individuals, let alone human.

[HoneyBadger]

47. Actually I prefer her plan ($250k etc)

Makes way more sense for NY

[bahrbearian]

43. "No we can't " "Pie is the Sky"

[baldguy]

8. K&R

[Tavarious Jackson]

11. New York is WAY ahead of VERMONT!

[George II]

15. Indeed.

[LS_Editor]

17. She should not go to Trump's inauguration.

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18. Country over party..

[LS_Editor]

20. Because Trump gives a shit about either party...

Or the country...

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22. We all know the Big Con is a moronic idiot,

That does not mean she and Bill want to sink to his level...

This is a national event...it is not just the Big Cons event.

[LS_Editor]

23. Dems need to wake the fuck up.

They - the Republicans - are not playing by the same fucking rules. Will there be a lack of resolve to defend Social Security and Medicare because of country over party? Such a bullshit excuse to appease the orange man baby. We're losing already.

[pbmus]

24. Read ..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512673349

[LS_Editor]

25. I've read it.

You and Chuck and Trump and 'bipartisanship.'

Swell.

[pbmus]

26. We will see ....

[LS_Editor]

28. Dem behavior during GWB years is not a good precedent.

[bahrbearian]

44. Like voting for War? And starting new wars Like Obama?

[LanternWaste]

41. What Trump gives a shit about is wholly irrelevant and does not reflect on Clinton in any way.

What Trump gives a shit about is wholly irrelevant and does not reflect on Clinton in any way. Be rational.

[LS_Editor]

45. Be rational?

Attendance is tolerating intolerance and tacit approval of the hate he uses to get elected.

[oasis]

27. "When they go low, we go high"---M. Obama

[democratisphere]

32. HRC always has, always will.

[Starry Messenger]

39. K&R