2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"But...don't you want to support the President for the good of the country?"
What example do I have to follow? The Republicans didnt want Obama to be a great President; they succeeded in obstructing a good deal of his agenda, then when he managed to take a giant (if not perfect) step forward in providing healthcare for Americans who didnt have it, they spent $87 million dollars petulantly trying to vote to repeal it over fifty times.
They stole a Supreme Court nomination from him by not even voting on his completely reasonable nominee. During his term. For a year.
Republicans gleefully frame the Obama years as a complete failure; an outright string of lies that serves to set the bar low as possible for the inevitable next Republican President.
And then they give us Donald Trump, who won the election despite being the most inappropriate candidate qualification-wise, and a reprehensibly spoiled, narcissistic, antipathic human being in general, who bullied his way into the nomination. For doing so, they win both houses and complete control of the government.
Cooperation with the opposing party is apparently not how you win elections. Lets come together in our desire to destroy all the progress weve made in the 20th century is not an acceptable olive branch.
No. I dont want to support Trump and his policies, and by proxy the Republican agenda in any way. The Republicans have shown us that you dont support a President who isnt from your party even when they desire to move humanity forward. If they state the sky is blue, you engage in 24-hour news-channel propaganda to flood the concept that their truth is a lie. You sabotage them via obstruction, outright lies, and throwing broken glass in the path of every piece of legislation that benefits their agenda. Their agenda is screwing America for the benefit of the rich and privileged. My preferred agenda is improving the quality of life for all.
Id be sullenly relieved to be proven wrong if America thrives in the next four years in some strange reverse-psychology ploy, but Im not going to give Trump or his ilk any help or support with their blatantly inhumanitarian goals and methods that I disagree with "for the good of the country".
The Republicans have taught me that's how you win.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)If he does anything good for the country, I will support that.
forgotmylogin
(7,674 posts)But I'm not holding my breath, and good things do not necessarily negate evil things.
jack69
(163 posts)but am not holding my breath. It had better be really spectacular and self sacrificing on his part, which won't happen.
DFW
(56,520 posts)Supporting the president and the good of the country are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
jack69
(163 posts)because we all know the welfare of the country is not the main concern of the Trumpets or the Tea partiers. However, if they go beyond their petty concerns and show they are truly invested in the lowest of all of us, I might give them a kudo. We know that will never happen, only to save their political chances.
DFW
(56,520 posts)If Trump should end up making a gesture to acknowledge the plight of "the lowest of all of us," as you aptly put it, it won't be for the purpose of saving anyone's political chances, but rather to preserve the ego-boosting accolades he hopes to garner for his greater self-aggrandizement.
Paladin
(28,758 posts)I want my country back.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)MFM008
(20,000 posts)Maggot.
jack69
(163 posts)they gave Obama.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)However i don't see that happening.
hamsterjill
(15,507 posts)I'll first have my head examined, and then I'll wait a while for all of the facts to come out. Because I don't trust anything that he does unless it is something that is good for Trump. Just like the Carrier deal, what appears to be at first is not necessarily what the real deal is.
jeffreyi
(2,053 posts)NEVER.
Bettie
(17,081 posts)is served by resisting this piece of trash and all the things that he (well, Ryan/McConnell) wants done.
He did not really win and is no more qualified for this job than the average person on the street. This is a travesty.
Wounded Bear
(60,682 posts)and certainly will not support what the Repub Congress wants to do.
As an American I reserve the right to disagree with people whose intent seems to be to turn this country into a 3rd world oligarchy.
meow2u3
(24,918 posts)Zero, zip, zilch, and nada!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I don't expect to see much of that under Trump.