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Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:15 PM Jan 2017

Jack Pine nuts jobs rooted for Trump and...

when Trump won, Jack Pine nut jobs jumped for joy. It was the happiest night of their life. Trump is LOADED with corruption, so are all the people in his cabinet! Millionaires and wall street! To root for this crap is NOT progressive. NOT AT ALL, so NO I will NOT see them as a credible or meaningful part of the democratic party. Go to their site now and you will see them now praising Putin.

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Jack Pine nuts jobs rooted for Trump and... (Original Post) Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 OP
They worthless, selfish, asses, and I hope they are never allowed back here still_one Jan 2017 #1
they are here. Look for if we hadn't nominated Hillary posts. boston bean Jan 2017 #72
Agreed-many of the bernie would have won threads show this Gothmog Jan 2017 #74
I have to believe that those that are here did vote for Hillary in the general election still_one Jan 2017 #80
Yes, They are obvious. cwydro Jan 2017 #91
I think a lot of them are sadly mistaken that the country is going to slingshot the other way... Ace Rothstein Jan 2017 #2
I gotta ask ...what's your obsession with JPRs Ellipsis Jan 2017 #3
I think it's important to remember who they are and what they stand for... Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #4
Please articulate for me what you think that that is. Ellipsis Jan 2017 #7
People who will root for corruption (Trump) Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #9
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #10
I do not like repeating myself. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #13
I'm glad you're exposing their fucked up priorites over Cha Jan 2017 #14
Yes. I am deeply disturbed. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #15
In their dreams. Cha Jan 2017 #17
If the Democratic Party became more liberal, more populist, this would be a good thing. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #77
What you describe was taken pracically word for word from the Tupamaros DFW Jan 2017 #89
You and DFW are spot on. One has to be a certain age AND observant, or a student of history.... Hekate Jan 2017 #101
They care only about themselves and their ego. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #16
Exactly.. extremely self-centered.. no wonder they like dumbshit Cha Jan 2017 #19
They have a lot on common with Trump Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #20
The JPRs are indeed very much like Trump Gothmog Jan 2017 #141
I'm waiting... who are they? What do they stand for for? Ellipsis Jan 2017 #8
Ahhh . . . who exactly are you to be waiting and demanding? brush Jan 2017 #33
Numerous members there are white nationalists. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #108
the person you are harrassing has ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. trueblue2007 Jan 2017 #153
Is this true? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #156
I do too, TJ.. they stand for the fascist, treasonous, perverted regime Cha Jan 2017 #12
A lot of these fuckers were on du undermining the obama La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #31
The JPR idiots really disliked President Obama Gothmog Jan 2017 #142
I noticed that and it ticked me off constantly. montana_hazeleyes Jan 2017 #177
And I gotta ask ... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #38
You hit it again Nance. I went there during DU's down time and could not believe what I read. Lochloosa Jan 2017 #62
My theory is that some of the DUers that are now on that site really are RWers who were on DU.... George II Jan 2017 #119
True enough. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #131
Whatever. I'm glad he's here.. it's a great contribution to DU.. Cha Jan 2017 #55
Thank you Cha. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #60
We will miss this great man when he leaves office Gothmog Jan 2017 #143
I gotta ask... why do you confuse the words "concern" and "obsess?" LanternWaste Jan 2017 #170
And Obama is the problem not the Russians also our government is the problem not trump lunasun Jan 2017 #5
They were Trolls that the Admin allowed to shit all over OBama and other Democrats for the past 8 JI7 Jan 2017 #6
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #26
Jeesh! Turbineguy Jan 2017 #11
Hey, "little red book" jargon. Did you forget the sarcasm gif? brush Jan 2017 #35
I just wish they'd keep it there BainsBane Jan 2017 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #21
you mean those that called Hillary the "c" word, or President Obama a "POS", or those still_one Jan 2017 #32
And calling many of us here (not knowing our background or upbringing) "anti-Semitic"! George II Jan 2017 #98
absolutely. This is the flavor of what was going on at the time: still_one Jan 2017 #100
That one garnered 314 Recs, too Hekate Jan 2017 #102
A who's who of ......................... George II Jan 2017 #118
Oh yeah Hekate Jan 2017 #121
Yawn. Some people here called Bernie a racist. Just as much of a disgusting slur yet I dont see jack_krass Jan 2017 #120
I didn't see him called a racist. Maybe I missed it. Have an example? George II Jan 2017 #147
I must have missed it too, George mcar Jan 2017 #157
I saw quite a few posters calling him a racist. Separation Jan 2017 #167
I saw a lot of that too. PotatoChip Jan 2017 #168
I like to pretend thing exist only if I perceive them as such as wel LanternWaste Jan 2017 #171
So a response in the form of rooting for trump is okay? What claptrap. brush Jan 2017 #36
The electorate chose Clinton BainsBane Jan 2017 #97
I think some have snuck back here to blame Hillary for not being the Party's Great Resistance Leader Hekate Jan 2017 #22
I've noticed some VERY familiar posting styles in the low post count newbies. cwydro Jan 2017 #93
Those half baked "patriots" were never true Democrats. Screw 'em. oasis Jan 2017 #23
I must object... chwaliszewski Jan 2017 #24
Thanks for injecting a note of reality. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #25
If you can stand to be on a site that speculated that bill La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #28
JPR, a site that relishes in those that referred to Hillary with the "c" word, or every other still_one Jan 2017 #41
They were salivating at the pizza gate crap. nt Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #45
Here's the truth. (Trigger warning: Some people may find their bubbles burst in this post.) Jim Lane Jan 2017 #58
Not right away... Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #59
I don't know the exact dates, and you apparently don't either, or you would've linked. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #63
But every other anti-Clinton conspiracy theory is still fine there. yardwork Jan 2017 #65
There are some subjects on which JPR allows both sides to post where DU allows only one. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #66
"If reading criticism of Hillary bothers you ..." NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #117
Great post Gothmog Jan 2017 #144
.... yardwork Jan 2017 #149
GREAT POST. i have never frequented that horrible site. trueblue2007 Jan 2017 #154
Thanks Nance! NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #162
So far, no one has. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #163
Good post Nance. tammywammy Jan 2017 #165
Closing the barn door, after the horses have left...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #67
So impressive they banned stupid idiotic Pizzagate. Cha Jan 2017 #68
Once it illustrated them as fools without question or qualifier, it was an efficient decision to mak LanternWaste Jan 2017 #172
Bullshit, they hid all posts defending Hillary. That was literally their only hard rule. They allow bettyellen Jan 2017 #34
That is an absolute lie. L-I-E lie. Not even a question of interpretation. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #56
I definitely didn't dream it - I saw the rule posted there. yardwork Jan 2017 #64
Sorry, I just can't keep up with all the bullshit being thrown around here. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #69
And damn near every response is people OPPOSED to what you are saying. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #71
Isn't the DUer JPR deceased? dionysus Jan 2017 #110
Yes. Nt Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #114
Looks like the Glorious Revolution isn't going according to plan. yardwork Jan 2017 #78
I read it all there. Saw original members quit over both issues after discussing in details. bettyellen Jan 2017 #82
JPR is not open to a variety of opinions. Not sure where you're getting that. LonePirate Jan 2017 #70
Do you buy the JPR party line that there are no Russian trolls trying to influence US elections? Gothmog Jan 2017 #75
Agreed 100% Arazi Jan 2017 #109
They allow trump win jubulation on that site.. we don't. Don't believe me.. Cha Jan 2017 #27
Remember the bill Clinton has aids thread? La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #29
No, thankfully I didn't see that bullshit that's par for their Cha Jan 2017 #30
I haven't seen anyone there rooting for Trump. Liberty Belle Jan 2017 #37
I completely agree with your post chwaliszewski Jan 2017 #39
It was more prevelent in the months before the election, but they can still be found still_one Jan 2017 #49
I guess your point is how could someone... chwaliszewski Jan 2017 #54
I meant to reply to the poster you had responded to. I believe that anyone here at DU, still_one Jan 2017 #81
Beware posts written in Republicanese DFW Jan 2017 #92
There are numerous tells, both on JPR and here. yardwork Jan 2017 #95
You would think they would know better DFW Jan 2017 #96
I intentionally did not correct any spelling errors, and did not identify still_one Jan 2017 #99
I am only too aware of that DFW Jan 2017 #104
Thanks for bringing us this, still_one. There are those whose denials and accusations that DUers... Hekate Jan 2017 #107
I have.. I know what he's talking about and so have others.. it's been Cha Jan 2017 #40
Thank you Cha. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #44
According to Skinner ... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #42
Gawd! Thanks for some REALITY, Nance! Jeebus, I get tired Cha Jan 2017 #47
The primaries were hell over here for anyone supporting Hillary. Amazing how that still_one Jan 2017 #50
This is not about Bernie. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #43
Some of them I used to enjoy on other topics ucrdem Jan 2017 #46
Yes it is. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #52
Do you approve of the JPR types applauding the booing of John Lewis at the national convention Gothmog Jan 2017 #76
But not surprising, considering that several JPR stalwarts were banned from DU for bigotry. yardwork Jan 2017 #79
No, Lewis is one of the great Congressmen of our time. Liberty Belle Jan 2017 #112
Agreed Gothmog Jan 2017 #113
There was plenty of Trump supporters, then they purged them after the election. Saw the threads bettyellen Jan 2017 #83
Thanks sfwriter Jan 2017 #103
That's why I call them WhiteTara Jan 2017 #48
I know... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #51
It's super selfish. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #53
They are all posers. They are GOP and maybe Putin posers acting as if they are Democratic party UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #57
I love this post! MyNameGoesHere Jan 2017 #61
There a number of former DU members who are very happy at Trump's win Gothmog Jan 2017 #73
Is crazy Nadin still over there? RonniePudding Jan 2017 #86
I saw that she banned over there Gothmog Jan 2017 #87
Well they've still got Others, Demeter, Hifi Guy and many other pathetic, sad little cranks RonniePudding Jan 2017 #88
And others. cwydro Jan 2017 #94
I am amused by Ida's posts over there Gothmog Jan 2017 #145
They banned NADIN??!! NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #169
I was amazed Gothmog Jan 2017 #175
"She was always my favorite"? According to your profile, you've only been here since last July. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #122
Ohhhhhh inspector Closeau is on the case. RonniePudding Jan 2017 #123
So that's your explanation, then? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #124
They cheered the thought of a bunch of men pissing on her head. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #84
Your post is the literal truth. yardwork Jan 2017 #111
Thanks for the reminder. SaschaHM Jan 2017 #85
I never go there BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #90
went there once heaven05 Jan 2017 #105
Yes. That describes them perfectly. nt Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #106
Hey...they do give Putin a valuable platform! Pholus Jan 2017 #115
They should not ever be given any credibility. Tavarious Jackson Jan 2017 #116
that was possibly the vaugest thing ive ever read on the internet. can you give names? links? jack_krass Jan 2017 #127
Don't want to go afoul by a callout. PM coming. Pholus Jan 2017 #130
sorry, not buying this characterization... jack_krass Jan 2017 #125
Your acceptance ("buying") is not required. RonniePudding Jan 2017 #128
Here's one of the "Hillary is a Cunt" threads you claim don't exist. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #132
wrong website. and I ddnt claim they dont exist, only that I havent seen them. I have seen worse jack_krass Jan 2017 #133
"Wrong website"? Um no. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #134
You linked jpr.ORG. jpr.COM is JPR. Dont know what the org site is/was jack_krass Jan 2017 #135
Nope, same site. .org was the original site address, it was changed to .com. Link: emulatorloo Jan 2017 #137
how about the "not good enough, bernie" slander: jack_krass Jan 2017 #139
Umm, nothing in that post is remotely comparable to calling Hillary bigoted slurs. DanTex Jan 2017 #152
Um, no Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #138
JPR was named as a promoter of russian fake news Gothmog Jan 2017 #146
that list was roundly criticized and never taken seriously. nt m-lekktor Jan 2017 #148
I know that the JPR idiots disliked it Gothmog Jan 2017 #150
Horseshit, Your "fake news callout site" is itself, fake news jack_krass Jan 2017 #155
Well they've been high fiving each other over there ever since Trump won the election. George II Jan 2017 #158
Did you get this from JPR? Gothmog Jan 2017 #160
Yeah they're Trumpeters True_Blue Jan 2017 #126
Just had a look at JPR......still batshit. IADEMO2004 Jan 2017 #129
Both sites. Snackshack Jan 2017 #136
Nobody roots for trump here.. that's a deal breaking. Cha Jan 2017 #174
That so many of those creeps were members here for years, ought to give admin pause.. one would hope boston bean Jan 2017 #140
I think at this point admin has a good idea of who, precisely, most of us are & what we're about. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #159
Like I say. One would hope. boston bean Jan 2017 #161
Don't tell me folks are surprised to learn this... Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #151
DU is a better place because those who wouldn't vote for HRC in the GE are not allowed to post hrmjustin Jan 2017 #164
The Bernie or Bust crowd decided to choose BUST! Joe941 Jan 2017 #166
I wish we could ban those traitors from this board liquid diamond Jan 2017 #173
They must be off their rockers ailsagirl Jan 2017 #176
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
91. Yes, They are obvious.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:16 PM
Jan 2017

Don't seem to be able to let go.

Kinda pathetic. I've only looked at that site once. Geez, I'd rather hang out at the cave than there.

Ace Rothstein

(3,299 posts)
2. I think a lot of them are sadly mistaken that the country is going to slingshot the other way...
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:27 PM
Jan 2017

...after 4 years of Trump.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
9. People who will root for corruption (Trump)
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:57 PM
Jan 2017

People who root for Putin, People who root for Billionaires and wall street in government office more than ever before in history. That is who they are. They rooted for this Trump and why did they do that? Selfishness. I think that is enough to dismiss anything they have to say here on forward and forever.

Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #9)

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
13. I do not like repeating myself.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:26 AM
Jan 2017

I have answered your question. Yes, they absolutely rooted for Trump. Go there now and see for yourself. Yes, they love Putin more than Obama and Yes, they seemed concern over Hillary not being trust worthy but believe Trump is better. They're selfish. They ROOT for the death of our democracy just so they can feel righteous. It's sick.

Cha

(305,391 posts)
14. I'm glad you're exposing their fucked up priorites over
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:29 AM
Jan 2017

supporting the Planet and the ones in our Country who will go hungry and be without shelter with the rw taking over our government.

Not to mention the rw take over of SCOTUS.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
15. Yes. I am deeply disturbed.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:38 AM
Jan 2017

These are the same people who say they want to take over the Democratic party.. ??

Eliot Rosewater

(32,536 posts)
77. If the Democratic Party became more liberal, more populist, this would be a good thing.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:41 AM
Jan 2017

But to do that there has to be a viable, functioning society for that or any party to exist in and be a part of.

Their approach seems to be destroy the society so that nothing can function, then pick up the pieces. It might ultimately work, but many will suffer or die, many.

I guess if you are not in any of the categories of people who will suffer first or the most, it is easier to say "let's elect Trump and see what happens."

I will tell you what happens, it will be so bad and it will happen so quickly, you wont be able to keep up with the incoming stories of chaos and destruction.

The only question will be will nuclear weapons be involved at any point, and I think for the first time since 1962 the likelihood of that is about 50/50.

DFW

(56,520 posts)
89. What you describe was taken pracically word for word from the Tupamaros
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:02 PM
Jan 2017

They were a (supposedly) leftist terror group in Uruguay. They figured their antics would cause a right wing crackdown (correct so far), and a popular backlash that would overthrow the neo-fascists and install a leftist gobierno popular (people's government), which never occurred. Oh, they got their fascists, alright, but that's as far as they got.

Any self-declared leftists thinking they would accomplish that goal in the USA by supporting Trump are probably in for a similar let-down. I know one. She still uses terms like "Killary" and thinks she is a people's hero, and is proud of her "efforts (internet armchair warrior)" to see Trump elected, positive it is the next best outcome to seeing Bernie Sanders inaugurated. She is slightly physically handicapped, and is in for a rude awakening when she finds that what little medical care she can get will soon either be paid for out of her disability or not paid for at all. I will not be contributing to any "go fund me" that she may set up, since she has been actively promoting "go fuck you" with her Trump support.

Hekate

(94,626 posts)
101. You and DFW are spot on. One has to be a certain age AND observant, or a student of history....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:57 PM
Jan 2017

...to see these arguments for the delusions they are. The 18th through 20th centuries are replete with blood-soaked examples too numerous to mention.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
108. Numerous members there are white nationalists.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jan 2017

Some were banned from this site for their racist behavior.

Many on that site called for the killing of Clinton. Others exclaimed their joy at the thought of a bunch of men pissing on her head.

They stand for hate. Racism, sexism, bigotry, etc. It's a part of every fiber of their being. Ignorant hate.

There you go. Now you aren't waiting anymore.

They are sick fucks. Clintons plans on expanding mental healthcare in this country would have greatly benefited many of them. They are Trump Humpers.

trueblue2007

(18,112 posts)
153. the person you are harrassing has ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jan 2017

stop being so belligerent.

if you want to harass the OP, take it to email

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,289 posts)
156. Is this true?
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 04:17 PM
Jan 2017
Many on that site called for the killing of Clinton. Others exclaimed their joy at the thought of a bunch of men pissing on her head.


I find that disturbing on so many levels. Do you?

I also find it a disturbing paraphilia. Do you?

Cha

(305,391 posts)
12. I do too, TJ.. they stand for the fascist, treasonous, perverted regime
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:23 AM
Jan 2017

of the rigged in selection of trumputin. They are rwingers.

They care nothing about our Planet or our country.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
31. A lot of these fuckers were on du undermining the obama
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:45 AM
Jan 2017

Presidency for years.

Hence my 'obsession' with them

Had they not routinely disrupted at du I wouldn't give a shit. Lot of crazy losers on the internet I don't care about.

Gothmog

(154,427 posts)
142. The JPR idiots really disliked President Obama
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jan 2017

The same JPR idiots who supported Sanders were the ones attacking President Obama

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
177. I noticed that and it ticked me off constantly.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 01:59 AM
Jan 2017

They would post something negative about President Obama in every thread. Even threads that had nothing to do with him or the primaries at all.

I saw it all and it was sickening. And many of the posts about Hillary were downright obscene.

And the racist posts were obvious, though they denied they were racist.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
38. And I gotta ask ...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:03 AM
Jan 2017

... why some people think that any reference to JPR constitutes "obsession".

DUers have been discussing RW sites for years - and no one ever felt compelled to label such discussion as an "obsession" with those sites.

What makes JPR particularly interesting to many of us is the fact that it's a RW site posing as a "progressive" site, full of comments from alleged "progressives" who spew RW talking points, link to RW sources, and are obviously led-by-the-nose by RWers.

Lochloosa

(16,401 posts)
62. You hit it again Nance. I went there during DU's down time and could not believe what I read.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:13 AM
Jan 2017

I kept waiting for a post from Jimrob....

George II

(67,782 posts)
119. My theory is that some of the DUers that are now on that site really are RWers who were on DU....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:37 PM
Jan 2017

...to "promote" a candidate merely to weaken the ultimate candidate. Once their job was done here they drifted over there to compare notes and pat each other on the back, "Well done!"

Sadly on November 8 we found that their destructive activity worked.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
131. True enough.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:34 PM
Jan 2017

It was no coincidence that certain DU posters who did nothing but bash Dems 24/7 wound up over there - posing as "progressives" on JPR, the same way they posed as Democrats on DU.

Cha

(305,391 posts)
55. Whatever. I'm glad he's here.. it's a great contribution to DU..
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:09 AM
Jan 2017

calling out those who are supporting the asshole pervert trumputin and the rw agenda's to take over the country.

Our very Planet's life is at stake... this is nothing to crap around with.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
170. I gotta ask... why do you confuse the words "concern" and "obsess?"
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jan 2017

I gotta ask... why do you confuse the words "concern" and "obsess?" Is that confusion your donation to the English language?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
5. And Obama is the problem not the Russians also our government is the problem not trump
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:46 PM
Jan 2017

Trump is not status quo ! Yeah!

JI7

(90,524 posts)
6. They were Trolls that the Admin allowed to shit all over OBama and other Democrats for the past 8
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:47 PM
Jan 2017

years .

Response to Tavarious Jackson (Original post)

still_one

(96,523 posts)
32. you mean those that called Hillary the "c" word, or President Obama a "POS", or those
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:46 AM
Jan 2017

that wished that "cosmic fate would give Hillary a stroke"

It's not misdirection. They are SCIUM




 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
120. Yawn. Some people here called Bernie a racist. Just as much of a disgusting slur yet I dont see
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jan 2017

Anywhere near the level of outrage. Funny that.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
167. I saw quite a few posters calling him a racist.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jan 2017

I dont have any links to the threads, but they are there. To be honest I cant really remember why he was being called a racist, I do know that it was sometime late summertime though.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
168. I saw a lot of that too.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 12:11 PM
Jan 2017

Some of it was outright stated, but the majority was repeatedly implied. Strongly implied.

Additionally, many who could not get enough of that also resorted to implying that even Bernie's supporters were racist (and sexist, xenophobic, indifferent to the plight of others, and violent, ect. ect.)...

It was almost as if Bernie and his supporters were being equated to Trump and his despite Left and Right wing Populism being the polar opposites of each other.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
171. I like to pretend thing exist only if I perceive them as such as wel
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:00 PM
Jan 2017

I like to pretend thing exist only if I perceive them as such as well. Our shared use of irrational thought and our denial of critical thought in this instance is most convenient, yes?

Funny that, part doo.

BainsBane

(54,768 posts)
97. The electorate chose Clinton
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jan 2017

By 3.8 million votes. Bernie lost, and JPR chose to support Trump out of hatred for Clinton and the millions of voters who supported her.

Some of those people have never voted Democrat. There are Paulites and Reaganites, in addition to particular resentment toward people of color and women.

Hekate

(94,626 posts)
22. I think some have snuck back here to blame Hillary for not being the Party's Great Resistance Leader
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:51 AM
Jan 2017

Just sayin' some of the rhetoric coming from low post count noobs seems awfully familiar

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
93. I've noticed some VERY familiar posting styles in the low post count newbies.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:20 PM
Jan 2017

I agree. I'm pretty sure I've identified at least a couple of them.

oasis

(51,703 posts)
23. Those half baked "patriots" were never true Democrats. Screw 'em.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:55 AM
Jan 2017
Let them enjoy each other. Those types never have a place to call home.

chwaliszewski

(1,528 posts)
24. I must object...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:09 AM
Jan 2017

I'm a member of that site in addition to this one. I don't support Trump. I voted for Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general. I see things I like and dislike at both sites.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
25. Thanks for injecting a note of reality.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:35 AM
Jan 2017

The fact is that JPR, like DU, is open to a variety of opinions. A broad-brush characterization of JPR is like saying that, in the primaries, "DU supported Bernie Sanders" or "DU supported Hillary Clinton." Each of those statements about DU would be an oversimplification.

During the general-election campaign, JPR, like DU, was open to posts advocating a vote for Clinton. A difference between the sites is that JPR was also open to posts advocating a vote for Jill Stein, as DU was not. Since the election, JPR has seen discussions between, on the one hand, progressives stress the flaws of the Democratic Party and who think we should be looking instead toward the Green Party or a new third party, and, on the other hand, those of us who reject third-party politics and advocate working to reform the Democratic Party. That's another debate that's not permitted on DU. Maybe instead of posting on DU to throw mud at JPR, some folks could consider joining the debate there. Yes, if they do that, they'll run the risk of reading posts they disagree with, but that happens on DU as well.

You write, "I see things I like and dislike at both sites." I'm completely on board with you on that point (and on everything else in your post).

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
28. If you can stand to be on a site that speculated that bill
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:40 AM
Jan 2017

Clinton had aids, says a lot more about you than any false equivalence between du and jpr.

And incidentally that was only locked after it was roundly mocked on du.

still_one

(96,523 posts)
41. JPR, a site that relishes in those that referred to Hillary with the "c" word, or every other
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:13 AM
Jan 2017

vulgar name in the book.

For all the curses that they threw at Hillary, President Obama, and anyone who supported them during the primaries, I throw it right back at them with extreme prejudice.

Hillary lost in Wisconsin by .3%. Jill Stein received 1.1% of the vote in Wisconsin. Similar things in Michigan, and other critical swings sates. How many of those over there, and with the same mindset voted third party?

Russ Feingold and Zypher Teachout lost, along with every Democrat running for the Senate against the ESTABLISHMENT, repulbican, INCUMBENT. How many of the 47% who didn't vote were from that mindset.

They knowledge that they will get exactly what they deserve over there from a trump presidency, will brings little satisfaction to the millions who will be suffering at their selfishness:

Noam Chomsky perhaps said it best:

'Progressives who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton made a ‘bad mistake’

.......

"“I think they [made] a bad mistake,” said Chomsky, who reiterated that it’s important to keep a “greater evil” from obtaining power, even if you’re not thrilled with the alternative. “I didn’t like Clinton at all, but her positions are much better than Trump’s on every issue I can think of.”

Chomsky also attacked the arguments made by philosopher Slavoj Zizek, who argued that Trump’s election would at least shake up the system and provide a real rallying point for the left.

“[Zizek makes a] terrible point,” Chomsky told Hasan. “It was the same point that people like him said about Hitler in the early ’30s… he’ll shake up the system in bad ways.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/noam-chomsky-progressives-who-refused-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake/







 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
58. Here's the truth. (Trigger warning: Some people may find their bubbles burst in this post.)
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:00 AM
Jan 2017

The JPR admins have banned Pizzagate posts. For a while there was a banner up on the site to make sure the message got across. The policy is still in effect but the banner's gone, so I can't link you directly to it, but it's quoted in the first two lines of this post:

All pizzagate CT posts will automatically be removed. Period.

Anyone who continues to post this particular conspiracy theory takes the chance of being suspended.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
63. I don't know the exact dates, and you apparently don't either, or you would've linked.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:31 AM
Jan 2017

The basic problem, though, is the methodology that pervades this thread. It's to look at a discussion board (which by definition is open to different viewpoints), find a few posts that can be derided, and use them to smear the whole site.

The best way for me to illustrate that fallacy would be to adduce examples from DU, but that would probably be alerted, so I must regretfully decline to spread any more wisdom on this topic. Happy New Year to you and yours.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
66. There are some subjects on which JPR allows both sides to post where DU allows only one.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:00 AM
Jan 2017

If reading criticisms of Hillary Clinton bothers you, may I respectfully suggest that you not read JPR.

Some people, such as chwaliszewski (#24) and myself, read both sites. Nevertheless, I'm not urging that course on other people, for their tastes may differ from mine.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
117. "If reading criticism of Hillary bothers you ..."
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jan 2017

Enlighten us all as to how the following constitutes "criticism":

Posting a photoshopped pic of Hillary with a shit-stain on the back of her skirt.

Posting that the Clintons personally directed the murder of dozens of political adversaries.

Posting that Clinton "thugs" beat-up Bernie the night of the Convention in order to force him to concede.

Posting that Clinton "thugs" threatened the lives of Bernie's grandchildren if he refused to campaign for HRC.

Posting that HRC was dying of Alzheimer's/ Parkinson's/ epilepsy (and various other diseases) and was lying to the public about her condition.

Posting that HRC was using a body-double at campaign appearances to hide her illnesses and/or her deranged mental state due to the meds she was taking for her many (non-existent) health conditions.

Posting that HRC had a teleprompter embedded in her podium at debates because she was too mentally "out of it" or "strung out on drugs" to answer questions without pre-written answers being provided.

And posting that "pizzagate" was a FACT - the ban on which only came about after JPR was repeatedly ridiculed for buying into such a preposterous story.

The above is just a small sampling of what's been posted there - and they aren't one-off posts. They were posts that garnered a LOT of attention, replies, and RECs.

A LOT of people, who post here on DU and elsewhere, saw those posts and aren't about to forget them. There is no point in denying them, or denying how many JPR posters glommed onto those stories and spread them.

Maybe THAT is your idea of "criticism". For most people, it is pure, unadulterated Hillary-hate and serves no purpose other than to fabricate lies and proffer them as truth. We also won't forget the Obama hatred, and the hatred for the Democratic Party, that was posted on JPR on a daily basis. Any Dem who didn't support Bernie was tossed under the bus - ridiculed and demeaned regardless of their long-standing records as front-line fighters for progressive causes.

" ... their tastes may differ from mine."

Yeah, no kiddin'. Most people who are interested in intelligent political discussion don't have a "taste" for hate sites. Most Democrats don't have a "taste" for sites that so blatantly have no other agenda than to besmirch the Democratic candidate with out-and-out lies, and urge voting AGAINST that candidate in order to ensure the defeat of Democrats in the GE. Most Democrats don't have a "taste" for sites that pose as "progressive" while constantly quoting, linking-to, and praising RW sources in order to sway people from voting FOR the Dem nominee simply because they are hanging onto their butt-hurt that their candidate-of-choice failed to win the nomination.

Defend JPR all you want. We who have seen it KNOW what it is - a hate site designed to defeat Democrats.

Well, you all got what you wished for - pResident Donald J. Trump. Hope y'all are happy as you lose your rights, your freedoms, your healthcare, etc. - because, as so many JPR posters said, he'll be SO MUCH BETTER than having Hillary in the White House.

Edited to add: I notice that the "HRC is dying from ____ disease" posts pretty much disappeared after election night. So did she have a miraculous recovery - or is this JPR's way of admitting those stories were all bullshit to begin with, but they posted them anyway?

trueblue2007

(18,112 posts)
154. GREAT POST. i have never frequented that horrible site.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 04:08 PM
Jan 2017

i just glanced at a couple posts. THEY SPEW HATRED AGAINST HILLARY.

Why were those people allowed to post their hate here? Never should have happened!!!

DU should NEVER allow hatred to Democrats be posted. Never again

Thanks Nance for going into detail about the hate directed to President Hillary so we can make sure we knew what was going on in the background.
I'm pretty naive about all that stuff.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
162. Thanks Nance!
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jan 2017

Although predictably there will be those DEMANDING links to each and every post and whining when you don't provide them. When in reality a cursory reading of that site will show them each and every one of your examples.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
163. So far, no one has.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:06 PM
Jan 2017

That's because so many people have already looked at the site, and need no further proof of what it is. They've seen it firsthand.

Even those I know as the staunchest Bernie supporters lasted less than 48 hours there - realizing at once that JPR is full of RWers posing as "Bernie-supporting progressives".

JPR is a great site for those who think Alex Jones is too subtle, and doesn't advance enough ludicrous CTs to keep the mentally deranged entertained.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
172. Once it illustrated them as fools without question or qualifier, it was an efficient decision to mak
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:05 PM
Jan 2017

"The JPR admins have banned Pizzagate posts..."

Once it began illustrating them as fools without question or qualifier, it was an efficient decision to make. No doubt, you'll rationalize it as something else... bias often forces us to do as much.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
34. Bullshit, they hid all posts defending Hillary. That was literally their only hard rule. They allow
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:51 AM
Jan 2017

C*nt and n$@@er but not anything pro-Hillary.
They are trolls running a literal hate site.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
56. That is an absolute lie. L-I-E lie. Not even a question of interpretation.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:50 AM
Jan 2017

Pardon my direct language, but this whole thread has exhausted my patience.

Like chwaliszewski, I voted for Bernie in the primary and for Clinton in the general. I posted several times on JPR defending the latter choice and refuting specific attacks on Clinton. Since the election, some people on JPR have posted general attacks on the Democratic Party, and I've posted with my reasons for thinking that progressives should stick with the Democratic Party instead of looking to the Greens or a new third party.

Not one of those posts of mine has ever been hidden.

yardwork

(64,329 posts)
64. I definitely didn't dream it - I saw the rule posted there.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:40 AM
Jan 2017

Posters were not allowed to suggest that Bernie wouldn't win the nomination. Posts were either removed or "edited" by site moderators. This was a published rule.

I saw things on JPR that were so disgusting they turned my stomach. Photoshops of Hillary Clinton made to look like she was incontinent. Dozens of threads promoting the false narrative that she was sick - with AIDS, Parkinson's, "seizure disorder," and so on and so on.

I'm sure that JPR is funded with money from Putin. The narratives are all the same.

The site helped elect Trump. I hope you're proud.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
69. Sorry, I just can't keep up with all the bullshit being thrown around here.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:24 AM
Jan 2017

To recap, bettyellen said (in #34) that JPR "hid all posts defending Hillary. That was literally their only hard rule." I said that was a lie. Your response is to say that you "saw the rule posted there," but your reference is to a different subject, namely Bernie's prospects in the primary.

I said that bettyellen's assertion was a lie. Here's just one of numerous posts on JPR that urged a vote for Clinton and that was not hidden.

Now you add a whole bunch of new stuff, the most laughable of which is that "JPR is funded with money from Putin." If JPR members decide to do a parallel thread to this one, maligning all of DU based on pointing to specific posts, that knee-slapper will deserve pride of place.

But, really, I've been enough of a killjoy. People on DU are understandably despondent over the impending inauguration of Trump and the prospect for four horrible years. If some of them find that JPR-bashing is a welcome distraction from the unpleasantness of the real world, the rest of us should probably just let the hatefest go on.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
71. And damn near every response is people OPPOSED to what you are saying.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:57 AM
Jan 2017

Hell, one said that Trump would be 4 years of "comedy" while implying Clinton would be worse.

The worst part is the real JackPineRadical would NOT have liked that site at all. They appropriated his handle for RW causes.

yardwork

(64,329 posts)
78. Looks like the Glorious Revolution isn't going according to plan.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jan 2017

Guess what? The country isn't going to suddenly wake up and embrace Bernie. Instead, you're just as out of luck as the rest of us.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
82. I read it all there. Saw original members quit over both issues after discussing in details.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jan 2017

Not shocked someone is using false information to defend them. Fake news was definitely popular there.

LonePirate

(13,893 posts)
70. JPR is not open to a variety of opinions. Not sure where you're getting that.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:25 AM
Jan 2017

Go over there and make a post about technology/automation (and not trade deals) as being the primary and future cause of blue collar manufacturing job loss and your post will be deleted and you will be accused of pushing talking points they do not agree with. Or better yet, post a critical Bernie topic such as how he failed to appeal to minority voters which is why he lost the primary and you will have the wrath of a thousand keyboards descend upon you.

JPR is the left's version of a conspiracy-filled hate site that loves Russia and the incoming president more than they love America and the current outgoing president. That place is a sewer not much different than 4chan.

Cha

(305,391 posts)
27. They allow trump win jubulation on that site.. we don't. Don't believe me..
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:39 AM
Jan 2017

I've seen trump apologists on here but they didn't last long.

That would be promoting the rw bullshit agenda.

Liberty Belle

(9,610 posts)
37. I haven't seen anyone there rooting for Trump.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:57 AM
Jan 2017

I've only visited a few times, but it seemed most people there were originally for Bernie, and some later voted Green Party, or wrote in Bernie. Both before and after the election the posts I've seen there were all negative about Trump.

If you're going to make an accusation that they're praising Putin and supporting Trump, you should link to the specific post. Also just because an individual or two may have posted something pro-Trump doesn't mean that reflects the thinking of the majority at the site, just as the occasional troll here will post something outrageous.

I disagreed with them censoring pro-Hillary posts just as I disagreed with DU censoring pro-Sanders people.

It's too bad there's no site on the Net that seems to allow honest discussion and differing viewpoints among liberals/progressives/Democrats. Sometimes Dems are their own worst enemies, dividing instead of uniting.

still_one

(96,523 posts)
49. It was more prevelent in the months before the election, but they can still be found
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:02 AM
Jan 2017

Here are one example from a thread that is interspersed with folks so glad they didn't vote for Hillary, which essentially was a vote for trump by the way:

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/i-am-glad-to-finally-have-so-many-in-my-camp/


"I had so hoped Bernie would have been the one to run against Trump but when that didn’t happen I backed Trump because it was the biggest FU I could give both parties."

.....


"AnnieL, I'm SO sorry I didn't vote for Hillary!

NOT!

I live in a swing state and I voted for Jill Stein and I’m glad I did!"

....

"I live in a swing state and proudly wrote in Bernie. I will never regret it!"

......

"Reregistered Green, voted Dr. Stein. Happy."

.......

"By "in my camp" I meant wanting a third party.

I have no hope of the Democratic Party changing anything. Pelosi said it outright. They are mad at us for supporting Bernie. They still expect us to get in line. They won’t learn so we have no choice but to build a third party. Try doing that if Hill was in power. That is why I chose Trump over her. He doesn’t have us in his sites. She would have. If you can’t understand that I can’t make it more clear."

.........

"
30. Clinton would have been far far worse than Trump.

In addition we dissenters would have been silenced or sentenced as basement dwellers or worse. At least with Trump we can dissent, we can protest, we can complain and we can vote without shame.

Clinton would have led us to full-blown war and threatened us all with nuclear war. No I will never regret my vote and I would never had help my nose…in the event that Trump’s presidency is a full-blown disaster I would still NEVER believe that Clinton would have been better.
"

.........

These types of comments are not difficult to find over there. Neither is the President Obama and Hillary hate comments


chwaliszewski

(1,528 posts)
54. I guess your point is how could someone...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:52 AM
Jan 2017

condone comments like that on JPR. I don't, that's why I don't make them. I don't support Trump (I detest him, actually), do not bash Hillary, and do not agree with everything Bernie has suggested. I actually would like to see Al Franken run for the Dem-Nom in 2020.

still_one

(96,523 posts)
81. I meant to reply to the poster you had responded to. I believe that anyone here at DU,
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jan 2017

including those who may frequent that other place. did vote for Hillary in the General Election.

Bernie himself encouraged his supporters to vote for Hillary in the general. While losing the Presidency was bad enough, losing the Senate was a disaster for us.

I realize that no one here would argue with that.

The Post Mortem group has just become another place to re-fight the primaries.

In my view a better use would be a group whose purpose is the best way either stop trump from doing the damage he seems intent on doing, or at least delaying, and doing whatever is necessary to protect those programs so vital to so many.

Unless we can convince three republicans in the Senate to protect some of the programs, it is going to be very hard though



DFW

(56,520 posts)
92. Beware posts written in Republicanese
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jan 2017

"That is why I chose Trump over her. He doesn’t have us in his sites." Really? Which websites might those be, anyhow?

Using "sites" instead of "sights" is like using "your" instead of "you're," "loose" where "lose" was meant, or using an apostrophe to form a plural. These are classic indications of a Republican posing as one of us, the same way they use "Democrat" instead of Democratic.

yardwork

(64,329 posts)
95. There are numerous tells, both on JPR and here.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jan 2017

The day the White House stated that intelligence agencies had concluded that Russia meddled with our election, I saw immediate posts here questioning the evidence. Then I saw Putin himself quoted in the media, using the same exact wording. It was clear that talking points went out.

Some of the posters who repeat the talking points are useful tools, repeating what they receive. Others are paid contractors.

There are probably numerous little sites like JPR, not to mention zillions of Facebook pages. I believe that seed funding for those sites comes from the same source, supplemented by pocket change from the useful tools.

It's pathetic. People should know better.

DFW

(56,520 posts)
96. You would think they would know better
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jan 2017

But then, you would think someone like Trump wouldn't get more that 20% of the vote in a country with mandatory education, too.

As for JPR, "veni, vidi, satis (I came, I saw, I had enough)."

still_one

(96,523 posts)
99. I intentionally did not correct any spelling errors, and did not identify
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jan 2017

the posters

I have no idea if some of the posters over there are trolls or not. I don't frequent that forum, but what happened during the primaries over here was disgusting.

DFW

(56,520 posts)
104. I am only too aware of that
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:16 PM
Jan 2017

This past year was the first time since joining DU that I took a long leave of absence. It was voluntary, not forced. I had a post hidden for the first time ever, being accused of equating Bernie Sanders with Hitler (I didn't, although I did equate the fanaticism of some of his supporters, to that of fanatic NSDAP supporters--but that wasn't mentioned as the reason for the hiding). When I saw the reasons for the hide, it was clear to me who was running the asylum here, and I left from February until after the convention in Philadelphia.

The primary season at DU became one long I-Hate-Hillary fest, with a few--far too few--exceptions. I didn't make up my mind for a while after that, and my first contribution, as a matter of fact, was $150 to the Sanders campaign. I wasn't yet convinced one way or the other, but I figured his was a voice that needed to be heard. The vitriol on DU got to be too much, and I said I don't need this, so auf Wiedersehen. I had heard about JPR, and so took a look. There were enough mixed nuts on DU already, and JPR just was a bigger jar, so I hung out at DFP when at all. It's small, but has 99% level heads, which was more my speed.

As for the spelling, it appears to be an almost standardized rule in some right wing circles to have a certain way of spelling things. I'm not talking about Russians, who are easy to spot for the most part. Russian does not have articles (a, an, the) and Russians tend to leave them out when writing English, or use them in the wrong places. Also, Russian does not have the verb "to be" in the present tense, so they are unsure how to use "is" or "are" until they are very practiced in English. "Vladimir Putin is a great leader" in Russian becomes "Vladimir Putin great leader." But the right wing in America seems to have gone beyond just "Democrat" instead of "Democratic." It seems to have started with the random incorrect use of an apostrophe to form a plural (e.g. "I hate the Clinton's&quot . That is a telltale BS perversion of English, as there isn't a school in the world that instructed school kids to use an apostrophe to form a plural in English where English has never used one--ever. Why Republicans do that, as well as using "there" for "they're" as so on, is beyond me. Maybe it's just a case of monkey see, monkey do. Maybe someone just saw a typo on a Fox Noise post, and figured since it was from Fox, it must be correct, and every other text in English for the last 300 years has been wrong.

Hekate

(94,626 posts)
107. Thanks for bringing us this, still_one. There are those whose denials and accusations that DUers...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:26 PM
Jan 2017

...are lying about that place need to be forcefully countered. What better way to counter them than with their own words?

Cha

(305,391 posts)
40. I have.. I know what he's talking about and so have others.. it's been
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:07 AM
Jan 2017

reported on here.

It's disgusting and I'm glad the OP is exposing it.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
44. Thank you Cha.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:31 AM
Jan 2017

Yes, we must expose and remember who they are. They have no credibility to speak about anything progressive.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
42. According to Skinner ...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:18 AM
Jan 2017

... who is in a position to know such things, 85% of the posters on DU were pro-Bernie during the primaries. So let's not even go there with the "censoring pro-Sanders" bullshit.

The only "censoring" the Bernie supporters experienced was when HRC was declared the nominee, and they could no longer bash her 24/7 on DU.

It was the Bernie supporters who established their own website where they were free to call Hillary a "c*nt", accused her of literally murdering her political adversaries, and claimed she was dying of a dozen diseases and was lying to the public about her fatal condition.

So don't even talk about "dividing instead of uniting". And if you didn't see anyone there rooting for Trump, you obviously didn't bother to have a good look around.

Cha

(305,391 posts)
47. Gawd! Thanks for some REALITY, Nance! Jeebus, I get tired
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:39 AM
Jan 2017

of the attempts to rewrite history to suit some agenda.

still_one

(96,523 posts)
50. The primaries were hell over here for anyone supporting Hillary. Amazing how that
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:05 AM
Jan 2017

seems to be forgotten by some.

Thanks Nance

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
43. This is not about Bernie.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:29 AM
Jan 2017

This is about ROOTING for Trump which essentially means rooting for what he is doing and what he stands for. Yes, they rooted for Trump and had a grand fiesta when he won. There is Putin praise there right now EVERYWHERE.

ucrdem

(15,703 posts)
46. Some of them I used to enjoy on other topics
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:38 AM
Jan 2017

But some of them were so completely deluded by their bogus "progressivism" that they went on like the hateful-est trolls on the skeeziest sites for years and nobody here could shut them down. Well, they finally self-exiled, and it's a big improvement.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
52. Yes it is.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:22 AM
Jan 2017

There are still a few left. We must not forget what they stand for. They should never have any credibility regarding electing our officials.

yardwork

(64,329 posts)
79. But not surprising, considering that several JPR stalwarts were banned from DU for bigotry.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jan 2017

Trolls appropriated the name of a beloved DUer who is probably rolling in his grave at the disrespectful misuse of his name on a site that promotes bigotry of all stripes and pushes conspiracy theories and Putin propaganda funded by people who are literally destroying the U.S. and the earth.

Liberty Belle

(9,610 posts)
112. No, Lewis is one of the great Congressmen of our time.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jan 2017

Booing him is disrespectful and wrong, even if you disagree with him on some issue.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
103. Thanks
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:12 PM
Jan 2017

I agree with your post and have had several like it removed in the past after being flagged. It seems like DU used to be more tolerant. I have not checked out JPR, but doubt very much that it would all be my cup of tea if they banned pro-Clinton posts.

So frustrating.

Mike Nelson

(10,282 posts)
51. I know...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:01 AM
Jan 2017

...one on Facebook who wants Trump to succeed in all his plans. He believes the horrific outcomes will, as a result, make people regret not voting for Bernie and we'll have a bigger shakeup resulting in some greater good. They don't see real people will be casualties. It's tragic, but I do believe these people are a small minority.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
61. I love this post!
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:12 AM
Jan 2017

Much like tRump they just can't keep their egos in check. Bravo on your fishing expertise. You caught quite a few. Now back to my spreadsheet with this.

Gothmog

(154,427 posts)
73. There a number of former DU members who are very happy at Trump's win
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:23 AM
Jan 2017

The JPR posters are really sad people

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
86. Is crazy Nadin still over there?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jan 2017

She was always my favorite. Madder than a box of frogs, but thought of herself as a genius.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
122. "She was always my favorite"? According to your profile, you've only been here since last July.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jan 2017

So how exactly is it that you're so intimately acquainted with so much of the drama and so many past personalities here, including someone whose last post was a full month before you signed up?

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
123. Ohhhhhh inspector Closeau is on the case.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:53 PM
Jan 2017

Tell me inspector, is it possible to view this forum without being a member?

Madder than a box of frogs she was...

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
84. They cheered the thought of a bunch of men pissing on her head.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jan 2017

They also cheered the thought of her death. They are truly mentally ill people. I don't say that lightly. Many of them need serious help.

yardwork

(64,329 posts)
111. Your post is the literal truth.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jan 2017

Thread after thread there with vile memes and photoshops of Hillary.

A thread with feces photoshopped on her skirt suit as "proof" that she was deathly ill.

Images of men urinating on her face. Fantasies of raping and beating her.

These threads were not locked by the site owners. On the contrary, they bragged that posters could use any word - no matter how vile - to describe the Democratic nominee.

No conspiracy theory was too bizarre. It's only recently that threads about the pizza parlor were banned.

THIS is what people here defend.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
85. Thanks for the reminder.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:19 PM
Jan 2017

It's sad that folks are still trying to normalize what was happening over at JPR during the primary/general election. It was the worst of the worst.

BlueMTexpat

(15,496 posts)
90. I never go there
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:07 PM
Jan 2017

and insofar as I recognize one here for a post most often bemoaning the fact that Hillary was our candidate, it is straight to my Ignore List with that abomination.

I consider them traitors. It's as simple as that. F*ck them!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
105. went there once
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jan 2017

seemed like a Libertarian meeting place for right of center individuals whose view on social/cultural matters were suspect in many ways....not a progressive or truly liberal group of people. Mostly, if not all, white people I suspect.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
115. Hey...they do give Putin a valuable platform!
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jan 2017

Last edited Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:04 PM - Edit history (1)

One JPR poster in particular has a nice soapbox over there. Was booted from DU AND DI (even the pre-Trump conservatives knew he was a troll) for lots of Kremlin-favorable disinformation. I saw JPR had an appreciation thread for that troll and at that point....well they just weren't worth a lot of thought anymore.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
125. sorry, not buying this characterization...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:58 PM
Jan 2017

I browse JPR sometimes (I was introduced to it by a thread like this on DU), I don't post there though.

There are some good liberals there, some very very smart people, and some assholes. Its got a little more "wild west" feel... to each their own.

Its NOT a Trump friendly site.

Its NOT a rightwing site.

I have never seen the fabled "Hillary is a C word" thread

emulatorloo

(45,562 posts)
132. Here's one of the "Hillary is a Cunt" threads you claim don't exist.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:43 PM
Jan 2017
http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?10687-Hillary-nicknames

Jenny, the poster who complains about the use of the word got banned soon after.
 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
133. wrong website. and I ddnt claim they dont exist, only that I havent seen them. I have seen worse
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 12:18 AM
Jan 2017

Right here on DU... I've seen Bernie slurped as a racist, which is just as bad or worse than the C word, and just imagine, to my shock.... no "outrage" from the DU intellegencia

emulatorloo

(45,562 posts)
134. "Wrong website"? Um no.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 12:35 AM
Jan 2017

It is JPR.

The thread is about JPR. Your post is about JPR. The link I provided you is from JPR.

"I've seen Bernie slurped as a racist". Link?


emulatorloo

(45,562 posts)
137. Nope, same site. .org was the original site address, it was changed to .com. Link:
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 12:46 AM
Jan 2017
http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php

All members: New site is up. Please go to JackpineRadicals.com This site, .org, is shut down. Eventually, the new site will be both .org and .com If you ever registered here, at the new site you'll need to do a password reset. Please try the FAQ If you have an issue, pm me, Marym625, here.


Gothmog

(154,427 posts)
150. I know that the JPR idiots disliked it
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jan 2017

Did anyone in the real world attack it? Remember that JPR is full of russian trolls

Gothmog

(154,427 posts)
160. Did you get this from JPR?
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jan 2017

Do you have any authority for this claim? I know that the JPR idiots dispute this report

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
126. Yeah they're Trumpeters
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:01 PM
Jan 2017

I went there once . They were downright mysogynic in their hatred of Hillary. The site design is a really bad ripoff of DU.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
136. Both sites.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 12:42 AM
Jan 2017

Have their own pros/cons. There are comments there I disagree with same as comments here and on others sites. I visit many different sites that lean both right and left.

Setting aside emotions and listening or reading comments of those whom you disagree with can help broaden ones pov and perhaps find common thread. As much as I despise trump and the Republican Party they are very good at putting up a unified front which is something the Democratic Party needs to do also in order to pushback and fight their agenda. If we are going to survive the next four years this has to happen.



boston bean

(36,487 posts)
140. That so many of those creeps were members here for years, ought to give admin pause.. one would hope
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 08:41 AM
Jan 2017

anyhow.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
159. I think at this point admin has a good idea of who, precisely, most of us are & what we're about.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 07:39 PM
Jan 2017

When people pull the exact same shit year after year after year after year, I suspect they notice.

Blue_Tires

(55,778 posts)
151. Don't tell me folks are surprised to learn this...
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 01:12 PM
Jan 2017

They were pretty fucking clear which side they were on...

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
164. DU is a better place because those who wouldn't vote for HRC in the GE are not allowed to post
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:27 PM
Jan 2017

here.

DU is a better place because those banned and flagged here migrated there.

It turned into exactly what I thought it would and let them have it.

Miss a few people who don't post here anymore but that is life.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
166. The Bernie or Bust crowd decided to choose BUST!
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jan 2017

After Bernie lost the Bernie or Bust crowd decided to go scorched earth and bring us all down. They decided if Bernie can't win then HRC won't be the winner either! It was very childish. I still can't fathom they would root for Trump but those individuals do exist. I did vote for Bernie in the primary, but I was not a Bernie or Bust - I was a Bernie or Hillary person. They chose BUST and now we call get tRump.

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