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"Calling it for what it is" unusual these days... (Original Post) pbmus Jan 2017 OP
Too little, too late. dhol82 Jan 2017 #1
Oh gee, they called someone a shill. CrispyQ Jan 2017 #2
I'll believe that when I see it. Binkie The Clown Jan 2017 #3
They are no less ambitious than Republicans. Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #14
MoveToAmend.org PDittie Jan 2017 #19
Oh, goodness, a sterny worded statement. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #4
And what should they do? Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #15
That's what they wonder, unfortunately. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #21
oh my MFM008 Jan 2017 #5
The GOP have all three branches of government and will soon have the courts... Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #16
Wow, calling out a press secretary! hibbing Jan 2017 #6
I guess if we really wanted liberal policy... Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #17
Bingo! nt oasis Jan 2017 #23
WHEN excatly kcdoug1 Jan 2017 #32
Always... Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #43
ah! the death of unilateral "post-partisan" political prostration? Can't come too soon! Bill USA Jan 2017 #7
Where is our FDR? elmac Jan 2017 #8
He lost in the Primary. jalan48 Jan 2017 #9
really?! This shit again?! Yaw out yah selves constantly uponit7771 Jan 2017 #11
Shit yeah! jalan48 Jan 2017 #13
Yep portlander23 Jan 2017 #26
and why is it that the implication of male genitalia is the byword for courage? niyad Jan 2017 #10
This is what gives political correctness a bad name. jg10003 Jan 2017 #31
really?? asking a question about ingrained and thoughtless sexism is pc? niyad Jan 2017 #33
What is political correctness? jg10003 Jan 2017 #39
I think it's a good thing to point out sexism in the words we choose. DLevine Jan 2017 #42
what's next, will Obama tell them to cut it out? Skittles Jan 2017 #12
Spine would be much better awoke_in_2003 Jan 2017 #20
shhhh, don't you know that pointing this out is what gives political correctness a bad name????? niyad Jan 2017 #34
a pair of what???? fantase56 Jan 2017 #18
Let this be the beginning of a trend. nt Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #22
I really don't like broadbrushing Dems with "finally growing a pair".. Cha Jan 2017 #24
Where did you say they have been hiding... pbmus Jan 2017 #25
There you go again.. who says they're "hiding"? I am sick of all Cha Jan 2017 #27
Ok, we are listening right now to the Big Con and his ties pbmus Jan 2017 #28
Just because the media doesn't report it.. doesn't mean DEMS Cha Jan 2017 #29
OMG...Cha, they should be screaming there lungs out.... pbmus Jan 2017 #30
If you are going to talk "pair" in this manner. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #35
Ok, I will try to become more politically correct...but pbmus Jan 2017 #36
I agree with this. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #37
Understood, And that is why I changed the title of the op...thank you for your input. pbmus Jan 2017 #38
wimpy triron Jan 2017 #40
Agreed..shill is all we get, WTF pbmus Jan 2017 #41

CrispyQ

(38,172 posts)
2. Oh gee, they called someone a shill.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 04:17 PM
Jan 2017

Let's see how they hold up when McConnell/Ryan start slashing the safety net.

Dustlawyer

(10,518 posts)
14. They are no less ambitious than Republicans.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jan 2017

When they keep silent or cave to Republicans it is because their Donors told them to. Calling them weak only plays into the scam.

We need to fight and push them to attacking the root problem, campaign contributions/bribes. Until we do we will keep coming up short. Our legislators spend all their time raising money instead of working on our problems.

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
19. MoveToAmend.org
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jan 2017

"We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling and other related cases, and move to amend our Constitution to firmly establish that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons entitled to constitutional rights."

https://movetoamend.org/

It's headed up by the guy who helped Jill Stein organize the recounts (and was also the Green Party's 2004 nominee), David Cobb. But another board member, Egberto Willies, is a member of DU and a Clinton Democrat in 2016. So there's some multi-partisanship going on..

Demsrule86

(70,995 posts)
16. The GOP have all three branches of government and will soon have the courts...
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:08 PM
Jan 2017

The day Trump won the election was a dark day for the progressive movement...we took a giant step backward...and there is little the Democratic elected can do. I am sure criticising them will really help our cause...really.

hibbing

(10,401 posts)
6. Wow, calling out a press secretary!
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:06 PM
Jan 2017

That certainly is showing some backbone! See how many Democrats vote for even lower tax rates for the ruling class.


Peace

Demsrule86

(70,995 posts)
43. Always...
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jan 2017

She had a liberal voting record in the Senate too...and she was the only liberal candidate running in the general election...and spare me lamentations about Sanders...you have to win the primary to be the nominee...and his refusal to concede and endorse in a timely fashion was horrifying.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
7. ah! the death of unilateral "post-partisan" political prostration? Can't come too soon!
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:10 PM
Jan 2017

Let the unilateral practice of "Post Partisan" politics (i.e. prostrating yourself in hopes of gaining a deminimis of cooperation) die in with the passage of the current administration. People are confused when Democrats don't commit themselves to democratic objectives and fight for them. THis had a definite impact on the last presidential election.


With the arrival of 2017, let Democrats act and speak like Democrats.

 

portlander23

(2,078 posts)
26. Yep
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:57 AM
Jan 2017
Sanders on billionaire class: ‘I welcome their hatred’
Kevin Hardy
The Des Moines Register
Aug 15, 2015

Sanders, an independent, is seeking the Democratic nomination for president. On Saturday, the second day of a three-day Iowa swing, he pointed out how FDR called the wealthy protectors of the status quo “economic royalists.”

“He said, ‘They hate my guts. Never have they hated someone as much as they hate me. And I welcome their hatred,’ ” Sanders said.

“And let me echo that today: If the Koch brothers and the billionaire class hate my guts, I welcome their hatred. Because I am going to stand with working families.”

niyad

(119,674 posts)
33. really?? asking a question about ingrained and thoughtless sexism is pc?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jan 2017

pointing these things out is pc? wow. . . .just. . . .wow.

jg10003

(1,026 posts)
39. What is political correctness?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jan 2017

Some words are clearly offensive and are meant to denigrate women and minorities and must not be tolerated. However, when someone uses an expression such as “it takes a lot of balls to…” they are not trying to be sexist or denigrate women. This is simply a common, albeit crude, expression for saying that a person has a lot of audacity. Any sexist connotations that the expression may have had originally have long since faded from the public consciousness. What gives political correctness a bad name is equating that which is truly offensive and that which is simply common language used by people who have no intention of being offensive.

DLevine

(1,789 posts)
42. I think it's a good thing to point out sexism in the words we choose.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:29 PM
Jan 2017

A brave person has balls. A coward is a p***y. Just because an expression has become commonplace, doesn't mean it isn't sexist. Pointing out the sexism in that expression is not "giving political correctness a bad name".

Skittles

(158,669 posts)
12. what's next, will Obama tell them to cut it out?
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:31 PM
Jan 2017

and by the way, male body parts are not required for courage

enough of that sexist expression

niyad

(119,674 posts)
34. shhhh, don't you know that pointing this out is what gives political correctness a bad name?????
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jan 2017

Cha

(305,181 posts)
24. I really don't like broadbrushing Dems with "finally growing a pair"..
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:32 AM
Jan 2017

They are plenty of brave Dems.

pbmus

(12,438 posts)
28. Ok, we are listening right now to the Big Con and his ties
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:13 AM
Jan 2017

To an Indonesian business..definitely a conflict of interest ... Are there any democratic statements on this or literally 50 other hill reports. Please point them out to me..

pbmus

(12,438 posts)
30. OMG...Cha, they should be screaming there lungs out....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:26 AM
Jan 2017

Grab a reporter and make a statement for the people...I see Bernie , Elizabeth , and Nancy , where are the rest of them?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
35. If you are going to talk "pair" in this manner.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jan 2017

Clinton has a big brass pair with a lifetime of accomplishments and fighting the right wing to back her pair up.

Then again, I think equating toughness with the sensitive little jigglies of men is nothing more than a bunch of crap.

This is small potatoes.

pbmus

(12,438 posts)
36. Ok, I will try to become more politically correct...but
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jan 2017

When the WSJ says they will not call lies, lies...I believe we are sliding down a very slippery slope.

When our reps do not call out lies and misinformation, we are more than sliding, we are colluding.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
37. I agree with this.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jan 2017

"When the WSJ says they will not call lies, lies...I believe we are sliding down a very slippery slope.

When our reps do not call out lies and misinformation, we are more than sliding, we are colluding."

I disagree that I am asking you to be PC by requesting you not use a phrase that insinuates the soft little jigglies of men as a portrayal of societal toughness. I'm requesting you not be sexist. It has nothing to do with political correctness.

Thank you for the edit.

pbmus

(12,438 posts)
38. Understood, And that is why I changed the title of the op...thank you for your input.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:10 PM
Jan 2017

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pbmus

(12,438 posts)
41. Agreed..shill is all we get, WTF
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jan 2017

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