2016 Postmortem
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Democrats called incoming Trump press secretary Sean Spicer a "shill" for Putin after he claimed there was "zero evidence" Russia interfered with the 2016 presidential election.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312398-dems-trump-spokesman-a-shill-for-putin
dhol82
(9,431 posts)CrispyQ
(38,172 posts)Let's see how they hold up when McConnell/Ryan start slashing the safety net.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)We keep losing because the Dems in charge are wimps and cowards.
Dustlawyer
(10,518 posts)When they keep silent or cave to Republicans it is because their Donors told them to. Calling them weak only plays into the scam.
We need to fight and push them to attacking the root problem, campaign contributions/bribes. Until we do we will keep coming up short. Our legislators spend all their time raising money instead of working on our problems.
PDittie
(8,322 posts)"We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling and other related cases, and move to amend our Constitution to firmly establish that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons entitled to constitutional rights."
https://movetoamend.org/
It's headed up by the guy who helped Jill Stein organize the recounts (and was also the Green Party's 2004 nominee), David Cobb. But another board member, Egberto Willies, is a member of DU and a Clinton Democrat in 2016. So there's some multi-partisanship going on..
TheCowsCameHome
(40,210 posts)Demsrule86
(70,995 posts)Sad to see Democrats bashed on Democratic underground.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,210 posts)If this is what we can expect things dont look promising.
Demsrule86
(70,995 posts)The day Trump won the election was a dark day for the progressive movement...we took a giant step backward...and there is little the Democratic elected can do. I am sure criticising them will really help our cause...really.
hibbing
(10,401 posts)That certainly is showing some backbone! See how many Democrats vote for even lower tax rates for the ruling class.
Peace
Demsrule86
(70,995 posts)we should have turned out and voted for Hillary.
oasis
(51,649 posts)kcdoug1
(222 posts)was Hilliary ever a liberal?
Demsrule86
(70,995 posts)She had a liberal voting record in the Senate too...and she was the only liberal candidate running in the general election...and spare me lamentations about Sanders...you have to win the primary to be the nominee...and his refusal to concede and endorse in a timely fashion was horrifying.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Let the unilateral practice of "Post Partisan" politics (i.e. prostrating yourself in hopes of gaining a deminimis of cooperation) die in with the passage of the current administration. People are confused when Democrats don't commit themselves to democratic objectives and fight for them. THis had a definite impact on the last presidential election.
With the arrival of 2017, let Democrats act and speak like Democrats.
elmac
(4,642 posts)jalan48
(14,352 posts)uponit7771
(91,670 posts)jalan48
(14,352 posts)Kevin Hardy
The Des Moines Register
Aug 15, 2015
He said, They hate my guts. Never have they hated someone as much as they hate me. And I welcome their hatred, Sanders said.
And let me echo that today: If the Koch brothers and the billionaire class hate my guts, I welcome their hatred. Because I am going to stand with working families.
niyad
(119,674 posts)jg10003
(1,026 posts)niyad
(119,674 posts)pointing these things out is pc? wow. . . .just. . . .wow.
jg10003
(1,026 posts)Some words are clearly offensive and are meant to denigrate women and minorities and must not be tolerated. However, when someone uses an expression such as it takes a lot of balls to they are not trying to be sexist or denigrate women. This is simply a common, albeit crude, expression for saying that a person has a lot of audacity. Any sexist connotations that the expression may have had originally have long since faded from the public consciousness. What gives political correctness a bad name is equating that which is truly offensive and that which is simply common language used by people who have no intention of being offensive.
DLevine
(1,789 posts)A brave person has balls. A coward is a p***y. Just because an expression has become commonplace, doesn't mean it isn't sexist. Pointing out the sexism in that expression is not "giving political correctness a bad name".
Skittles
(158,669 posts)and by the way, male body parts are not required for courage
enough of that sexist expression
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and it's gender neutral.
niyad
(119,674 posts)fantase56
(469 posts)Maru Kitteh
(29,053 posts)Cha
(305,181 posts)They are plenty of brave Dems.
pbmus
(12,438 posts)Cha
(305,181 posts)this damn Dem bashing.
pbmus
(12,438 posts)To an Indonesian business..definitely a conflict of interest ... Are there any democratic statements on this or literally 50 other hill reports. Please point them out to me..
Cha
(305,181 posts)aren't working to fight trump.
pbmus
(12,438 posts)Grab a reporter and make a statement for the people...I see Bernie , Elizabeth , and Nancy , where are the rest of them?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Clinton has a big brass pair with a lifetime of accomplishments and fighting the right wing to back her pair up.
Then again, I think equating toughness with the sensitive little jigglies of men is nothing more than a bunch of crap.
This is small potatoes.
pbmus
(12,438 posts)When the WSJ says they will not call lies, lies...I believe we are sliding down a very slippery slope.
When our reps do not call out lies and misinformation, we are more than sliding, we are colluding.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"When the WSJ says they will not call lies, lies...I believe we are sliding down a very slippery slope.
When our reps do not call out lies and misinformation, we are more than sliding, we are colluding."
I disagree that I am asking you to be PC by requesting you not use a phrase that insinuates the soft little jigglies of men as a portrayal of societal toughness. I'm requesting you not be sexist. It has nothing to do with political correctness.
Thank you for the edit.
pbmus
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