2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHoodwinked: Americans played for the fools that they are. A Xmas day PBS analysis.
Well, well, well! It would seem that 66M of us were not played like a fiddle, but more importantly, with the questions about tRump so obvious to us, why didn't the M$M call tRump out of his deception before the election? Just goes to show that we cannot depend on our media to inform, at least not the RW rags and Russian promoted un-news that was being disseminated.
Donald Trump spent the past two years attacking rival Hillary Clinton as crooked, corrupt, and weak.
But some of those attacks seem to have already slipped into the history books.
From installing Wall Street executives in his Cabinet to avoiding news conferences, the president-elect is adopting some of the same behavior for which he criticized Clinton during their fiery presidential campaign.
Heres a look at what Trump said then and what hes doing now:
GOLDMAN SACHS
Then: I know the guys at Goldman Sachs, Trump said at a South Carolina rally in February, when he was locked in a fierce primary battle with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. They have total, total control over him. Just like they have total control over Hillary Clinton.
Now: A number of former employees of the Wall Street bank will pay a key role in crafting Trumps economic policy. Hes tapped Goldman Sachs president Gary Cohn to lead the White House National Economic Council. Steven Mnuchin, the Treasury secretary nominee, spent 17 years working at Goldman Sachs and Steve Bannon, Trumps chief strategist and senior counselor, started his career as an investment banker at the firm.
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BIG DONORS
Then: Crooked Hillary. Look, can you imagine another four years of the Clintons? Seriously. Its time to move on. And shes totally controlled by Wall Street and all these people that gave her millions, Trump said at a May rally in Lynden, Washington.
Now: Trump has stocked his Cabinet with six top donors far more than any recent White House. I want people that made a fortune. Because now theyre negotiating with you, OK? Trump said, in a December 9 speech in Des Moines.
The biggest giver? Incoming small business administrator Linda McMahon gave $7.5 million to a super PAC backing Trump, more than a third of the money collected by the political action committee... - PBS
How do you like him now, Joe and Jane rust belt voter?
Oh, we are SOOOOOOOOO FCUKED!!!
Jacob Boehme
(789 posts).... They've just begun to feel the tip of tRump's dick.
Dustlawyer
(10,518 posts)Their media keeps them insulated, at least the ones who follow any media. Many I talked to don't follow politics at all. They just wanted to shake things up because, get this, they were tired of the corruption in Washington.
I have been breaking the news to them posing as a disgruntled Trump supporter. When you do it that way they agree and get mad at him and the Republicans. I make sure to add that Rush, Hannity, Savage, Jones, and Fox lied to us to feather their nest! These Trump supporters will believe conspiracies! The funny thing is I am manipulating them with the truth!
I tried lashing out at them and all it got me was a "We won MF!" This way works much better. I say we engage Trump/Republican supporters this way and take away their base!!!
n2doc
(47,953 posts)mac56
(17,625 posts)Permission to act out like bigoted assholes.
They don't give a fat rat's ass about what promises he'll break, or whether he'll deliver on anything. They got what they wanted.
ffr
(23,127 posts)Too many self absorbed types who only think of themselves. It's time to cut them loose. Hit 'em in their pocketbooks.
this country is THAT stupid.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)those people will be saying it was black people that elected donald.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Including this part:
As I've written elsewhere, Trump won't experience a dent in his support if he fails to make good on his campaign promises (from bringing millions of jobs back to "better" free trade agreements to destroying ISIS to withdrawing from the Paris Agreement). But imagine for a moment what would happen to Trump and Republicans in Congress if they came out in favor of Black Lives Matter, a path to citizenship, LGBTQ rights, etc. Even if they maintained their position on abortion and gun control, the GOP would implode. Bigotry, particularly racism, is the tie that binds.
Another article along the same vein:
https://www.salon.com/2016/12/23/conservatism-turned-toxic-donald-trumps-fanbase-has-no-actual-ideology-just-a-nihilistic-hatred-of-liberals/
Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)petronius
(26,662 posts)Bit of a Freudian slip there, perhaps...
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,029 posts)pnwmom
(109,562 posts)corrupt, etc., is some new thing they've just discovered. He was always just projecting every evil quality he had onto her.
ffr
(23,127 posts)RW voter's head trying to fathom its meaning
When I think about it, I have to believe part of the problem has been the disconnect on the education level. There's no critical thinking, which begins with the understanding of the basic of language: meanings of words.
uponit7771
(91,763 posts)Generator
(7,770 posts)things on Today show. She wasn't that old-little older than me-60 something-southern accent-she "met" some guy from a foreign country on match.com-actually never met him at all-and gave him her life savings-$250k. I thought this is a Trump voter. I don't get this level of stupidity. I can feel bad for them but we live in different worlds-I would never give more than a couple hundred to someone I never met. Hundreds of thousands of dollars-this woman didn't have dementia. Fooled so easily. This country needs a real media and real education and enough of religion bullshit. We are all a nation of idiots at this point.Voting for Republicons is to me literally like giving your savings away to someone who will never know you.
ffr
(23,127 posts)tavernier
(13,258 posts)First thing I said to hubby: This woman is a Trump voter!!
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)As Silverman says, we desperately need "more media literacy and critical thinking education."
kairos12
(13,248 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,029 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)oasis
(51,705 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)oasis
(51,705 posts)the economy because those shit-for-brains are beyond redemption anyway.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(26,727 posts)were not bamboozled by this man.
Unfortunately, most, possibly all of those who were bamboozled by him, are addicted to their televisions. Whether they watch Fox, or another network, they think that what they see on that screen represents reality. They couldn't be more wrong.
I haven't had television, broadcast, cable, or satellite, in over eight years now, since a relocation after a divorce made it a financial decision to do without. To be honest, I originally thought of this as an experiment, something temporary. After all, about four different times in my life I'd been without TV, but always went back. I assumed it would be the same this time.
But as the weeks, then the months, and then the years passed, I found I simply didn't miss it. I could watch most of what I wanted on the internet, especially breaking news. When something happens, local TV stations often go to live streaming, and I've watched plenty of events that way.
For about five years, any time I was in a hotel room I'd watch TV, although I always found the commercials annoying. Yes, that's the best benefit of no TV. No commercials. Recently, as in the past 2 or 3 years, I've noticed that the TV in my hotel room has become invisible, and I don't ever turn it on.
And I honestly think I'm better informed than most. I wake up to Amy Goodman every morning. I listen to BBC news. Terry Gross. Diane Rehm. I read. Mostly books, but also my local newspaper.
Back in the mid-70's, the other longest period without TV, that lasted probably six years, a co-worker was convinced that because I didn't watch TV I wouldn't have any idea what was going on in the world. So periodically he'd quiz me, and he was always astonished to learn that not only did I know what was going on, but I often knew more than was typically reported in the media.
So if you want to remain ignorant, continue to watch the news, whatever source you prefer. Okay, some I'm exaggerating a bit here, but more than once here on DU I've seen complaints about some relatively trivial news story taking over the news outlets. Turn the damn thing off! Read a book. Watch a National Geographic special. Go for a walk. Trust me, you'll be vastly better off.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Even Mitt Romney made his famous indictment of Trump last winter, calling him a con man and a fraud. The less said about Mittens' subsequent Trump ass kissing, the better.
The only former president planning to attend Trump's inauguration is Jimmy Carter. The Bushes want nothing to do with The Donald. And I'm sure Bill would not risk Hillary's ire if he attended.
NBachers
(18,132 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)By and large, these are not rational people we're talking about.