2016 the last "election" the historical American remedy of "vote them out"

[AmericanActivist]

is over. We have no verification of votes. State government officials shut down recount efforts and in some cases tampered with said recount efforts in order to skew results even though Americans paid highway robbery prices to get a verified vote count. We still have electronic voting machines that have no paper trails and cannot be audited. We still have electronic voting systems with "proprietary software and hardware" that we have no access to because the corporations that make the machines won't allow it. The electronic voting systems are not secure and can be hacked. In spite of court rulings against GOP Gerrymandered districts the districts remain. There were over a million legitimate American voters purged from voting lists and GOP Vote Suppression is a very successful tactic for their Party. There are a myriad of problems with our election/voting system and under GOP control with tRump it will not be fixed it will get worse.

If you are thinking about focusing on 2018, or 2020 your missing the big picture. As Josef Stalin said, "it's not who votes but who counts the votes that matters."

[AmericanActivist]

1. So far, 82 views no replies or recs nm

[planetc]

2. I, too, have been posting on these very points repeatedly.

But it's as though people are stuck in pre-election analysis mode. They think it must be something we did or didn't do, something Mrs. Clinton did or didn't do.

In fact, we don't know who won the election, because we haven't been sure who won any of them since 2002. Some states have moved to paper ballots hand counted, and we can be reasonably confident of their results. But the rest are mired in insecure computers which make tampering both easy and impossible to check. This is no voting system for a self-respecting democracy to tolerate.

I think I'm going to write a letter to all Democratic senators, and ask: "What the heck?"

[ElementaryPenguin]

3. Sadly, I totally agree. nt

[AmericanActivist]

4. Thanks I appreciate it and yes very sad. nm