Has anyone else noticed a big uptick in MANSPLAINING lately?

[LaydeeBug]

Like they stole the election (YEP! I said it). Our sworn enemy committed an act of war against the USA and 27%of our electorate seems to think that's okay, because *they* weren't attacked. One was an act of war. Aiding it is an act of treason.

The mansplaining about almost every other thing rewards the efforts of the KGOP.

Anyway, this is just a silent little thread because of the uptick in mansplaining going on here, and all over the place.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Mansplaining? Maybe, but I think it's more stupidity and bullshit....

Which is what most mansplaining consists of, come to think of it.

[LaydeeBug]

2. I'm for real. I get this "you don't know what treason is" blah, blah, blah

do even more research, and it turns out THEY don't fucking know.

But it isn't really about that. This is a Bernie faction coming back for more primary bashing.

They. just. keep. doing. it.

[TreasonousBastard]

3. Missed those threads (largely deliberately) but I see some Bernistas not being able...

to let go. It's been happening locally, too, with a few people I know running around aimlessly shouting "if only..."

We just lost a serious Congressional election along with the orange shitgibbon's ascension, and there's real work to be done, not reworking the past.

And, yes, I see treason abounding, along with what were once considered acts of war. Unfortunately, there are powers out there just not listening or caring.

[LaydeeBug]

11. Your last sentence is the spot on truth...

but we have to remind them of it every fucking day.

If Bill Clinton's keeping Yassir Arafat on hold is a constitutional crisis, the idea that this "once was" considered acts of war, or that this "once was" considered treason, says something about the perpetrators. Not about the victims.

[Kilgore]

4. OK, what's mansplaining??

[Grey Lemercier]

6. it is when a man patronises or condescends to a woman when trying to argue a point

[Kilgore]

62. I thought that was called "being very rude"

[Amishman]

64. Oh it is, but everything must be framed in a racism or sexism context now

Calling it 'being an arrogant jackass' does not draw upon the well of identity politics so we need new terms.

[Kilgore]

65. Unfortunately so

[TlalocW]

5. Yes, but...

Let me explain why...

TlalocW

[JHan]

7. lol.

[oberliner]

8. Russia is our sworn enemy?

There's definitely some tension but "sworn enemy" seems a little extreme.

[rumdude]

12. Having been to Russia

I can say they are definitely not our sworn enemies.

[LaydeeBug]

18. Oh, that setteles it then. You went there before and they were cordial

Here's a fucking hint for you: Allies don't meddle in elections.

Take care.

[pintobean]

22. Who, exactly, swore them as our enemy?

Who has that authority, and when did it happen?

[LaydeeBug]

25. Oh...*another* "that settles it". The USA has no enemies. Ok. Gotcha.

[pintobean]

26. Answer the question.

You made the claim, back it up.

[LaydeeBug]

27. Do I need to "submit" to you...in the way that YOU demand?

[pintobean]

28. Again, you made the claim.

It's BS and you've been called on it. You've decided to dodge.

But, playing victim right off the bat is pretty much an admission of a weak argument.

[LaydeeBug]

31. No, I answered your question....you just decided you didn't like my answer.

but thank you for mansplaining a weak argument.

I am sure you think you are the arbiter of such things.

[Igel]

41. "Sworn", in the sense "publicly affirmed or confirmed."

Often with a tinge of hyperbole.

Rather different from "sworn-in enemies," which is what often happens in court of law. I don't think there's a chief magistrate able to swear in Russia as an enemy in the court of war, were such a thing to exist.

Usually "sworn enemies" has reciprocity in the definition, but it strikes me that results from the plural noun referring to two parties. I could imagine somebody felicitiously saying "Bertie and Jeeves are my sworn enemies, but honestly, I fail to see what I did to incur such animosity".

Saying "Roger and Bertie are sworn enemies" in isolation rather presupposes reciprocity in any decent parsing of the verb's semantics.


I'll put this down as flouting Grice. I'll leave aside intentionality. (http://www-01.sil.org/linguistics/GlossaryOfLinguisticTerms/WhatIsTheCooperativePrinciple.htm)

[pintobean]

43. Are you mansplaining

or womansplaining? I think someone is keeping score.

[LaydeeBug]

45. Thank you for setting someone straight

much appreciated.

[sheshe2]

52. Meddling in our elections.

Best buds with trump and many of his cabinet. T's daughter takes vaca's with Putties girl friend. Yes, I would say they are sworn enemies at least with Dems. Repukes love Russia now. They sure hold the same values.

[baldguy]

9. There, there, little lady. Let me tell you how you're wrong & how Bernie could have saved us all.

[LaydeeBug]

10. I know, right? lol nt

[mcar]

21. And that, for those wondering, is mansplaining

Albeit sarcastically done.

[sweetloukillbot]

29. Where does a mansplainer get his water?

From a well, actually...

[mcar]

56. Perfect!

[tblue37]

58. "Well, actually"--Isn't that the name of a movie starring Hugh Grant? nt

[melman]

50. Great

As if this thread wasn't ridiculous enough, let's add some gratuitous Bernie bashing.

[baldguy]

60. Perfect reply.

[jack_krass]

13. Heres some realitysplaining: Russia is NOT (and never was) our sworn enemy.

[LaydeeBug]

16. LOL! Did you forget the Cold War? Why it looks like reality eludes you

But suuuuuuuuuuuure. Russia isn't our enemy. Neither is Iraq.

[jack_krass]

19. "Did you forget the Cold War?"

Nope

[LaydeeBug]

20. awesome.

[jack_krass]

44. Heres some more realitysplain: Russia is NOT the USSR

An argument *could* be made that the USSR (whos stated goal was violent worldwide communist revolution ) was a sworn enemy of ours. However, Russia is not the USSR.

[LaydeeBug]

46. YAWN

and technically the KGB does not exist.

But there's Vlad...

[pintobean]

49. The USSR ended 25 years ago

Maybe you missed it. We won the cold war.

[elehhhhna]

53. Afghanistan was the true graveyard of that empire.

Afghansplaining. Boom.

[radical noodle]

55. We didn't actually win anything

And while the communist USSR no longer exists, they have a dictator leader, Putin, who is former KGB, messes in our elections and would love nothing more than to see us lose our freedoms and standing in the world.

[Hekate]

38. Christ on a trailer hitch

[Igel]

42. Putin would rather disagree.

Malyavin and Dugin would have a few things to say about it, as well.

Unless by "Russia" you mean the population, in which you have part of a point. But looking over the pop-lit that is avidly read by many males, esp. those under 30, you'd realize that that part of a point isn't all that impressively large.

Then again, they'd just call you an amerikos (which the urban dictionary defines as "dumb American", but leaves out a bit of the nuance and put-down; it's sort of like "ameri-fag&quot .

[LaydeeBug]

48. Happy to be on disagreeing sides with Putin. nt

[jfern]

14. If that was an act of war, then we would have attacked almost every country in the world.

Crazy talk about Russia will give us 2 term President Trump.

[LaydeeBug]

17. You are conflating *AND* setting up a straw man

[jfern]

39. Come on, the US government hacks almost everyone.

[pintobean]

40. We would never spy on our "sworn enemies"

Only our allies.

[LaydeeBug]

47. which has nothing to do with them hacking our election. Pretending that rewards them. nt

[pintobean]

15. Things just keep getting sillier.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. "This Microaggression Will Not Stand, Man"

[pintobean]

32. More mansplainin', man.

[Warren DeMontague]

34. Well what else am I supposed to do with this big ol' mansplainer I got here

I mean look at this thing. I suppose I could hang ornaments on it.

[jack_krass]

36. OMF WTF is that thing? Looks like the giant robotic land-squid from my nightmares lol

[pintobean]

37. It's a good looking woman.

I don't know what you're describing.

[mythology]

23. Just because people are telling you you're wrong, doesn't make it mansplaining

There's always the possibility that you're actually just wrong.

[LaydeeBug]

24. There's also the possibility that they're mansplaining

but thank you for your concern.

[EL34x4]

63. LOL!

"2 + 2 = 4."

"Stop mansplaining to me!"

[MFM008]

33. I've gotten it in here

Including a lecture in the Constitution I received because I was born in a tree on the African plains and raised by apes....

[LaydeeBug]

35. They don't think it's *them*.

They really don't.

[MFM008]

57. i know

but so many cant resist........ us stupid women and all.

[unblock]

51. argh! logic trap! can't prove you wrong without proving you right!

hmm, well, i suppose technically, i could transition and *then* prove you wrong; but, i'm just not that committed to making a point

well played, laydeebug.

well played indeed.

[Tatiana]

54. I'm stunned by the brushing aside of the very real threat Russia represents

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not only to the US, but to the world.

Putin has global aspirations. He wants to reunite/recreate the Soviet Union. He has ruled Russia, in some capacity, for almost two decades. He is fomenting insurrection within the European Union and now has inserted himself into the Middle Eastern sphere.

His goal is Soviet Domination. He wants to destroy the Western world and has the patience, talent, and intelligence to do so.

Yes, Russia is our enemy because they wanted to destroy us during the Cold War then and they want to destroy us now. They have the convenient tool of Donald Trump to use as the Trojan Horse that will defeat us from within.

The fact that we just so casually accept that Russia is not our enemy and Putin is not out to destroy us is proof that Putin is succeeding in his goals.

[LaydeeBug]

61. me too. I am stunned by their arrogance, hubris, whatever.

They seem oblivious to it...and your last sentence is spot on!

[LaydeeBug]

66. The last sentence....girrrrrrrrrrrrl...that last sentence NAILS it.

My Daddy fought in a war to keep Russian influence out of a small country. Doused in Agent Orange repeatedly, it eventually cost him his life.

I take particular *umbrage* with traitors welcoming them now like it's hunky dory.

[kcr]

59. They showed up in this thread, right on time. I feel like now is a good time to mention

that they likely had a hand in their candidate losing the primary. Bernie clearly associates that kind of crap with the working class and he was trying to win that vote. It's become more obvious since the election. He was trying to out-Trump Trump. Now we all lose.