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Hillary won Independent Women ! Independent men? Not so much, They went for Trump (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 OP
Kicking! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #1
If we're looking at exit polls, look at Clinton 2016 vs Obama 2012 portlander23 Dec 2016 #2
For the last time, the exit polls clearly got Latino voters wrong. StevieM Dec 2016 #4
And gays dsc Dec 2016 #5
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #11
Obama 2008 outperformed Obama 2012 also JI7 Dec 2016 #7
More and more evidence of misogyny in our socially backward nation. nt oasis Dec 2016 #3
It makes sense because the vast majority of "independents" are partisan. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #6
Mahalo for this, Madam.. I wish I had seen it Cha Dec 2016 #8
Thanks Cha! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #9
KICK! Cha Dec 2016 #10
Kicking! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #12
"Independent" men voted for the least independent man in modern hostory. Orsino Dec 2016 #13
Because Independents AKA Unaffiliated are seriously clueless otohara Dec 2016 #14
 

portlander23

(2,078 posts)
2. If we're looking at exit polls, look at Clinton 2016 vs Obama 2012
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 08:14 PM
Dec 2016
Stop Obsessing Over White Working-Class Voters
Joshua Holland
Rolling Stone

According to the exit polls, Clinton underperformed Barack Obama's 2012 results among not only non-college educated whites, but also white men; black men and women; Hispanic men and women; Asian men and women; men and women of other races; every age group except voters over 65; liberals, moderates and conservatives; Protestants, Catholics, adherents of other religions and those who claim no religious affiliation; married men and unmarried men and women; union and non-union households; self-identified Democrats; straight people; people who think undocumented immigrants should be given legal status; and people who think the country is going in the right direction. In that sense, the commentariat's intense focus on non-college whites already seems a bit odd.

It's true that in 2016, non-college whites swung to the GOP by a 15-point margin relative to 2012. But Clinton underperformed Obama among voters of all races who make less than $30,000 per year by an identical margin. If the pundits were churning out hundreds of columns about how the Dems need to win back low-income voters, it would likely have a more salutary effect on Democratic policy.


StevieM

(10,541 posts)
4. For the last time, the exit polls clearly got Latino voters wrong.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:45 PM
Dec 2016

You can look at how she did in certain precincts and it is clear that she outperformed Obama among Hispanics.

Latinos and Jews are the two groups that she did better with than Barack Obama did.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. It makes sense because the vast majority of "independents" are partisan.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:18 AM
Dec 2016

And non-affiliated women are going to be more Dem-friendly than non-affiliated men, as is true among those who are party-affiliated.

Racism and sexism are alive and well, sadly.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. "Independent" men voted for the least independent man in modern hostory.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:32 AM
Dec 2016

They voted for a bubble boy who's never held a real job or lived without a slate of nannies/handlers on 24-hour call. They thought no one could own him, not realuzing that he was already owned by the remnants of his father's fortune, and his desperate need to prop it up.

They voted for an "independent" man who doesn't know what he's doing.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
14. Because Independents AKA Unaffiliated are seriously clueless
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:49 AM
Dec 2016

...most uninformed voters I've ever encountered.

Spoke to many of them over the years of phone banking - lots of DUH's


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