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Electoral College has failed us but Supreme Court can reject Donald Trump before inauguration (Original Post) Iamaartist Dec 2016 OP
Is that a credible source? AirmensMom Dec 2016 #1
Not sure some say yes some say no.......needs reseach maybe Iamaartist Dec 2016 #3
Not really, Palmer spins a sensationalist story around a kernel of truth Amishman Dec 2016 #16
Palmer needs our donations! golfguru Dec 2016 #29
I don't consider hm a credible source. But others' mileage may vary. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #35
No, he's not mythology Dec 2016 #22
It is a Donate button site. Coyotl Dec 2016 #38
Lucrative field to be in these days. EL34x4 Dec 2016 #41
It's probably more likely that everyone posting in this thread will hit the Powerball before Jan. 20 MrPurple Dec 2016 #2
On what grounds? zipplewrath Dec 2016 #5
I am sure it wont go away....as yet..... Iamaartist Dec 2016 #6
I'm in on that action. Do I have to buy a ticket? n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #27
Trump will be President. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #4
I guess we will see ...... Iamaartist Dec 2016 #7
Unfortunately, we will. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2016 #11
Try not to sound so MFM008 Dec 2016 #8
Yeah. I'm thoroughly enthused over it. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #9
Some of us believe in accepting reality mythology Dec 2016 #25
My feeling too. We need to figure out how to deal with that, prepare for 2018 and 2020, Hoyt Dec 2016 #21
I get it as well. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #26
Exactly. Trump will provide plenty of opportunities to make him and Republicans look bad. Hoyt Dec 2016 #32
Not going to happen. nycbos Dec 2016 #10
It's legitimate considering the case that was cited in the article. Lint Head Dec 2016 #12
Palmer Report is absolute crap jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #13
this Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #20
Not happening. 8-0 Supreme Court if they actually heard the case. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #14
Give it the fuck up................ Historic NY Dec 2016 #15
....because the election was stolen.... by the GOP Iamaartist Dec 2016 #19
That doesn't seem to be the case. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #23
This article reminds me of the breathless reports that SCOTUS might overturn Obama's election BzaDem Dec 2016 #17
To have more stolen from us.....no way here...as Gore's was also...stolen Iamaartist Dec 2016 #24
Trump won. It was not stolen from Clinton. BzaDem Dec 2016 #36
Guess you haven't looked very closely at the exit polls... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #39
The unadjusted exit polls had Gore winning: AL AR AZ CO GA MO NC NV TN TX VA BzaDem Dec 2016 #40
Exactly. Although with reason, we are sounding to much like GOPers after , and it's not becomming. Hoyt Dec 2016 #33
Just like the calls here for the President to declare martial law and impose a do-over election. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #34
*sigh* sarisataka Dec 2016 #18
this is absolutely absurd Takket Dec 2016 #28
Kind of a stretch, imo. elleng Dec 2016 #30
Palmerreport is less cedible than that paper you put in the bottom af a bird cage Uggwearingdad Dec 2016 #31
The people coming up with these desperate hail mary ideas that have 0 % chance dionysus Dec 2016 #37

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
3. Not sure some say yes some say no.......needs reseach maybe
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:51 PM
Dec 2016

needs research on it.......if true or not..a lot of people use this site here..

Amishman

(5,812 posts)
16. Not really, Palmer spins a sensationalist story around a kernel of truth
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:20 PM
Dec 2016

Playing to the hopes and fears of the most upset among us.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
22. No, he's not
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:37 PM
Dec 2016

He is a sensationalist who has no grounding in reality. Nobody should take him seriously at all.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
41. Lucrative field to be in these days.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:21 PM
Dec 2016

The Florida recount guy netted $65k. The "petition the electors" guy had over a quarter million at his GoFundMe page. Of course, all pocket change next to Stein's $7.5 million.

Strike while the iron is hot.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
2. It's probably more likely that everyone posting in this thread will hit the Powerball before Jan. 20
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:51 PM
Dec 2016

I want to avoid the Trumpocalypse as much as anybody, but it's almost delusional to talk about this. It's time to brace for impact.

If the NSA hacked Trump's email and it could be definitively shown that he was coordinating with Putin, maybe the SCOTUS could step in, but short of that, we're doomed.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
5. On what grounds?
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:55 PM
Dec 2016

Prior to be president, it isn't clear what the SC would use as a justification for preventing his taking office. After inauguration, only congress can do anything. The constitution is pretty clear on these things.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
6. I am sure it wont go away....as yet.....
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:56 PM
Dec 2016

I think the president knows more then we do ???? since there is a lot of investigations going on... as yet

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
25. Some of us believe in accepting reality
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:38 PM
Dec 2016

These sort of posts are embarrassing. It's just as foolish as those on the right who just knew the Supreme Court was going to declare Obama to not be a natural born citizen.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. My feeling too. We need to figure out how to deal with that, prepare for 2018 and 2020,
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:36 PM
Dec 2016

use his term to point out differences in parties, etc. All this recount, Electoral College, Supreme Court junk, just make us look foolish and unable to accept reality. The Palmer Report is just fake news.

I went into a 3 months depression after Kerry lost to george war bush, so I get it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
26. I get it as well.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:43 PM
Dec 2016

It's why I'm really trying to stay polite when stating my feelings on this. I really think it's time to move forward and view Trump as an asset. If this is played correctly over the next four years, we can see a significant shift in offices all across the country, in our favor.

This is a painful loss. I actually understood Kerrys loss better than I did this one. It hurt just as bad for me because I think Kerry is what we needed at the time.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. Exactly. Trump will provide plenty of opportunities to make him and Republicans look bad.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:08 PM
Dec 2016

I'm surprised GOPers need a reminder so soon after bush, but apparently they do.

nycbos

(6,345 posts)
10. Not going to happen.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:00 PM
Dec 2016

. To quote Andy Horowitz.




Only one of these is a realistic scenario:

1) The Electoral College, which has a storied history of paying close attention to Facebook petitions, will vote to keep Trump out of office

2) Trump, a towering narcissist, will decide he does not like being the most powerful person in the world and will abruptly resign

3) Congress, which is controlled by spineless members of Trump's own party, will rise up in moral outrage and impeach him

4) Concerned citizens will try to limit the damage Trump wreaks on the country by doing the hard, often boring work of political activism in the 2018 midterms and again in 2020


https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz/photos/a.312831060680.191322.38423635680/10155061842295681/?type=3&theater

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
12. It's legitimate considering the case that was cited in the article.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:03 PM
Dec 2016

But Trump could ram a Supreme Court appointment through and that would be it.

Historic NY

(37,851 posts)
15. Give it the fuck up................
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:18 PM
Dec 2016

you didn't vote when it counted and now you grasp for straws. I never realized our party was filled with so many morons.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
19. ....because the election was stolen.... by the GOP
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:30 PM
Dec 2016

Everybody has right to there own opinion..... and this is ours at home.......the GOP stole America.. GOP .... always has been corrupt

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. That doesn't seem to be the case.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:37 PM
Dec 2016

And unless proven, which I know isn't being looked into at the level I would like, it's nothing more than bluster.

That is the point. The whole link in your op along with a lot of other rhetoric is little more than bluster. More is needed for these things to be considered in reality.

BzaDem

(11,142 posts)
17. This article reminds me of the breathless reports that SCOTUS might overturn Obama's election
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:24 PM
Dec 2016

for birther-related reasons.

Every time one of those cases moved an inch through the system, some non-credible source would write an article about how there was a chance a court might finally overturn the election, before inauguration day.

I laughed at the time about how Republicans simply would not accept the other side won the election. The last month has shown me that this attitude is not limited to their side

We need to focus on winning future elections.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
24. To have more stolen from us.....no way here...as Gore's was also...stolen
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:38 PM
Dec 2016

If a Con like Donald Trump can get in the White House,, I guess anybody can ,....

BzaDem

(11,142 posts)
36. Trump won. It was not stolen from Clinton.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 12:43 AM
Dec 2016

There is literally no compelling evidence that any votes were flipped. Trump won by tens of thousands of votes in three states, and he only needed to win in one state.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
33. Exactly. Although with reason, we are sounding to much like GOPers after , and it's not becomming.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:13 PM
Dec 2016

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
34. Just like the calls here for the President to declare martial law and impose a do-over election. n/t
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:25 PM
Dec 2016

elleng

(136,050 posts)
30. Kind of a stretch, imo.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:53 PM
Dec 2016

'The case, Marks v. Stinson, is the first and only known case in which a federal judge reversed an election outcome.

In 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to review an appellate court’s decision of Marks v. Stinson, a case originally brought before a federal district judge in Pennsylvania in 1993, which was subsequently appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in 1994. The Third Circuit partially upheld the federal judge’s decision to intervene and invalidate a 1993 state senate election due to fraud. Interestingly, the federal district judge ordered the winner be removed from office and the subsequent vacancy be filled by his opponent.

The 1993 state senate contest pitted Republican Bruce Marks against Democrat William G. Stinson. Stinson was named the winner, but was later accused of participating in a scheme with elections officials to commit election fraud. Namely, Stinson was accused of conspiring to cast illegally obtained absentee ballots in his favor.

In February 1994, after Stinson had already taken office, the federal judge ordered he “be removed from his State Senate office and that [his opponent, Bruce Marks] be certified the winner within 72 hours.”

Two of the elected officials who testified in the Pennsylvania case said under oath that they were aware of the fraud, had intentionally failed to enforce laws, and hurried to certify Stinson the winner in order to bury the story. To some, the narrative draws parallels to the Washington Post’s revelation that Republican Mitch McConnell was aware of the CIA’s conclusion that Russians had intervened and opted to do nothing.

Interestingly, the appellate court affirmed the district court’s intervention in the matter. But, the Third Circuit vacated the district court’s decision on ordering the certification of the winner: “We will vacate that portion of the district court’s preliminary injunction that required the Board of Elections to certify Marks.” Marks, 19 F.3d at 890. However, Mark was allowed to remain in the seat after having replaced Stinson for the rest of the term.

The case deliberates interesting rationale that could theoretically be applied in part if, after Donald Trump assumes office, it is shown that Russian hacking (or any fraud, for that matter) robbed Hillary Clinton of the presidency. The case offers clues that imply courts may intervene.

Obviously both the stakes and the office in question are much higher than in Marks v. Stinson. There has been no case of first impression with regards to the presidency being overturned to a wrongful winner’s opponent.

There is also, of course, no constitutional Electoral College process or system in Pennsylvania, so the situations are not exactly analogous. But the reasoning behind the federal court’s decision may hold muster. It is not clear how the case would impact a presidential election.

As of December 9, Clinton has won the national popular vote by more than 2.8 million votes. According to Cook Political Report, the vote count has Clinton approaching 66 million votes, meaning the first female major-party nominee has already earned more votes than any other presidential candidate in history, second only to Barack Obama (the totals suggest she is on course to surpass the president’s 2012 count, as well).'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-interference-could-give-courts-legal-authority_us_584be136e4b0151082221b9c

 

Uggwearingdad

(78 posts)
31. Palmerreport is less cedible than that paper you put in the bottom af a bird cage
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:54 PM
Dec 2016

SCOTUS has ZERO authority to do squat unless there are challenges from Mrs. Clinton's campaign and that's not happening.....the lower Court ruling they site...totally irrelevant to a POTUS election.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
37. The people coming up with these desperate hail mary ideas that have 0 % chance
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 12:45 AM
Dec 2016

of happening have been smoking too much crack.

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